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#321 Carol the Dabbler

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 04:05 AM

I'm ashamed to admit I only now realised Seol-Ok sounds like Sherlock, looking at it at least. Is Wan-Seung a John type character or a Lestrade? I was thinking Lestrade because you said he was a detective, but it doesn't seem right to have a Sherlock series without a version of John. 

 


Wan-Seung:  the clue is in the name.  ;)

 

 

 

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 08:16 AM

I still don’t get the Wan-Seung... Watson?
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#323 Boton

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 03:16 PM

Just noticed the names!  :D  (Is the show from Korea?)

 

Her outfit in that one photo looks fine to me.  Certainly no Belstaff, but then again, how many people could afford to dress that poshly?  Not me, that's for sure!  (Well, I suppose technically I could afford it -- but think how many DVDs I could get with that wad of money!   To say nothing of dental bills....)

 

So far, that photo is the best of her outfits.  She has pulled off some truly awful things, although I did like last night's ensemble that was some sort of slogan tshirt with a skirt and tennis shoes.  That was cute.  And I love that she carries a magnifying glass as a dangle from her cell phone.

 

I'm ashamed to admit I only now realised Seol-Ok sounds like Sherlock, looking at it at least. Is Wan-Seung a John type character or a Lestrade? I was thinking Lestrade because you said he was a detective, but it doesn't seem right to have a Sherlock series without a version of John. 

 

Yes, Wan-Seung is Watson, and, as many of you have intuited, the names do sound like "Sherlock" and "Watson" when they are pronounced.  I was initially confused too because Wan-Seung takes such a leading role at the crimes rather than being Seol-ok's conductor of light, but that's the set up. There is a police chief that functions very much like the ACD Lestrade, in that he's nice and he's smart, but he's really nothing next to Seol-ok and Wan-Seung, and he gets a fair amount of credit for things that Seol-ok has solved for him.


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#324 Carol the Dabbler

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 08:22 PM

Maybe Seol-Ok will gradually become the "senior" member of the team as she gains experience and confidence. After all, if Holmes had met Watson some years earlier, before he had any cases under his belt, the good doctor may have done a good bit of the detecting at first, before being rapidly eclipsed by his younger friend.
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Posted 10 November 2017 - 09:03 PM

I didn’t fancy it at all, don’t watch many foreign language things but the more you say the more tempted I am. Not that I’d be very likely to find it anywhere.
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#326 Artemis

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 04:13 AM

I just finished The Office (US).  Liked it a lot, sad it's over.  Took me forever to give it a shot, because I caught a few random episodes on TV here and there over the years and just didn't get the humor.  Also didn't realize they were being filmed for a documentary.  Makes a lot more sense with that piece of information, lol.

 

 


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#327 Carol the Dabbler

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 04:19 AM

Yup, sure would!  You must have wondered why people kept talking right into the camera.

 

Have you seen the original (UK) Office with Martin Freeman?


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 04:32 AM

Talking to the camera didn't confuse me as much (I figured they were being interviewed about their jobs, but I didn't know by who).  It was the subtler stuff, like the weird self-conscious looks right into the camera, or when Michael put on a show in front of the camera and behaved in ways where he was obviously trying to impress the audience.  I didn't understand why everyone was constantly breaking the 4th wall, lol.  I thought the interviewing part was supposed to have stopped when they weren't speaking directly about themselves to the camera.

 

I haven't seen the UK original yet, but I will soon, that's next on my list.  :smile:

 

 


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Posted 13 November 2017 - 05:02 AM

I didn't realize it was for documentary as well. Thought it's just some kind of new genre 'Mockumentary' comedy.
Thought they were taking big risk by filming it that way without the classic laugh tracks and full of awkwardness, but it works.

There were some scenes when the cameraman wasn't allowed, like it was shot through window blind, or we only hear whispers behind close doors. So initially I thought it was part of DM documentation only, some kind of office practice and policy exclusive to DM weirdness. However when we see other branch's stories, they seem 'proper', so maybe it's more to reality TV of Scranton DM. Why anyone think it's a good idea on that fictional universe, I don't know. XD But I like the show.

Haven't tried the British version too, except half of first episode and tbh, didn't really pull me in. But back then I dislike almost all British shows.
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#330 Carol the Dabbler

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 08:19 AM

As you may know by now, "mockumentary" is short for "mock documentary."

I think the key to getting into the British "Office" is NOT to think of it as a show about the boss. He's a very off-putting jerk, so if you think of the show as being about him, it's a very off-putting show. I think the show is actually more about everybody else in the office trying to cope with the jerk (and with his would-be second in command, Gareth).

As I recall, the first episode focuses mostly on the boss, so even though you do need to watch that one (because it explains who everybody is), you also need to watch another episode or two in order to get a proper feel for the show.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:33 AM

Is the British version more acerbic in general? I imagine it would be. I've only seen a few episodes of The Office, so never actually watched it properly. I liked Extras (Ricky Gervais' next show after The Office), anyone seen that? A lot of that was cringy comedy too. The Ricky Gervais Show (the animated one) is pretty funny too, though I do feel a bit sorry for Karl Pilkington being quite so picked on. 

 

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 12:54 PM

BBC's The Office is among my second favorite shows after Sherlock. Yes, it is pretty acerbic and David Brent is utterly cringeworthy. But the show isn't completely heartless. Also, make sure to watch it all the way to the end, meaning part 2 of the Christmas special.
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#333 Carol the Dabbler

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 01:06 PM

It's cold in your office again? You could get one of those little heater panels that fastens inside the modesty panel on your desk. Or a foot warmer -- I have one of those under my desk at home, and it's great -- if my feet are warm enough, it seems to spread to the rest of me.

As for comparing the two Offices -- well, they're different. I've only seen a season or two of the American one, but it's my impression that the American boss is far less abnormal than the British one, and is therefore less of a catalyst -- which means in turn that the American show is more mildly zany.

As one example of the difference -- the first half dozen or so of the American show are simply "translations" of the British one. At one point in each, the boss has played the same sadistic "joke" on the receptionist. When she finds out it was "only" a joke, the British receptionist says "You wanker! You're such a sad little man." The American says "You jerk!" and that's it. In the commentary the Americans said they felt the other line was too strong (whereas it was my favorite part of the British scene).

This is irrelevant, but I noticed that the subtitles for the American show we're written in British. For example, when someone tries to make a phone call but gets a busy signal, the subtitles says "engaged tone."

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 01:17 PM

Ha, the British line definitely sounds apt to me. :D

 

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 02:00 AM

When she finds out it was "only" a joke, the British receptionist says "You wanker! You're such a sad little man." The American says "You jerk!" and that's it. In the commentary the Americans said they felt the other line was too strong (whereas it was my favorite part of the British scene).

 

In the American version, wasn't there another episode where a different employee said something to that effect?  It might have been "ignorant and small man" or something like that, but I thought it seemed as strong as "sad little man".  He did apologize for saying it afterwards though, so maybe there's the difference, lol.

 

 


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 04:20 AM

Could be -- I've seen only a fraction of the American episodes.

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