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#1 RV0889

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 05:32 AM

I did not know where to post this, so i made a topic. Read this in NY times.

 

http://t.co/HK2x72OuEB

 

Am i the only one who did not know this? :(


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#2 besleybean

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 07:09 AM

I had forgotten until you reminded me!


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#3 Carol the Dabbler

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 08:15 AM

I believe I had heard rumors, but darned if I could have told you the date.

 

Happy Birthday, Mr. Holmes!

 

 

:happybirthday:

 


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 11:55 AM

I believe I had heard rumors, but darned if I could have told you the date.

 

Happy Birthday, Mr. Holmes!

 

 

:happybirthday:

 

I think that smiley needs an ASBO. ;) 


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#5 Bakerstreet Irregular

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 05:07 PM

Yes, January 6th!  Happy Birthday Sherlock Holmes! And many many many more happy returns.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 09:42 PM

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Happy Birthday Mr. Holmes! 

 

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#7 TeylaHolmes

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 04:11 PM

Happy Belated Birthday :)

 


   :sherlock2:  Bored!  :shoot:


#8 Carol the Dabbler

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 11:36 PM

Happy Birthday again, sir!

 

Dare I ask your age -- one hundred and ... something?  You're looking very fit!

 


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-- Carol

 


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Posted 06 January 2015 - 11:52 PM

Happy birthday, fictional person I spend too much time thinking about! :D


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Posted 07 January 2015 - 01:15 AM

To the man who never lived, and will never die (at least anytime soon): :happybirthday:  :sherlock:  :sherlock2:  :brett:  (in all of your other variations too)!  Many Happy Returns!


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Posted 29 May 2017 - 09:32 PM

Capricorn!

Probably because he rejects his feelings.

He investigates the outside world.

He cannot stand stupid people.
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Posted 02 November 2017 - 02:05 PM

January 6th seems to me to be the best and only possible birthday for Sherlock Holmes.  It is 'Twelfth Night', yes, and there is textual evidence to support Sherlock being fonder of that Shakespeare play than any others.

 

But for those like me who follow the church liturgical calendar . . January 6th has a very special meaning.  It is the Feast of the Epiphany, celebrating the visitation of the Magi to the Christ Child with their gifts.  The Child that was sent to be 'a Light to Lighten the Gentiles', which the Magi represented.  Now we know that Sherlock Holmes is not a 'religious' man in the conventional sense but 'epiphany' is also defined as 'the appearance of a divine or supernatural being' and also as 'a moment of sudden inspiration or insight'.  I'd say the first describes Holmes's singular intellectual powers and the second often described his method of deduction.  So voila!  And yes, the hard-headed Ram of Capricorn is also deeply appropriate.


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#13 HerlockSholmes

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 02:37 PM

Christopher Morley suggested 1854 as the year of Holmes birth but I have to say that Laurie King does, for me, give a pretty decent arguement for 1861 based on the date of The Second Afghan War that Watson was invalided home from.
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Posted 02 November 2017 - 04:35 PM

Christopher Morley suggested 1854 as the year of Holmes birth but I have to say that Laurie King does, for me, give a pretty decent arguement for 1861 based on the date of The Second Afghan War that Watson was invalided home from.

 

Actually, with respect, I think the historical dates of the Second Afghan War bolster the argument for Mr. Morley and Mr. Baring-Gould's 1854 birth year for Holmes.  The war lasted from 1878 -1880, with the disastrous Battle of Maiwand occurring 27 July 1880.   We know that Doctor Watson was back home in London some months later and met Sherlock Holmes in the New Year, 1881.  If we take Mrs. King's birthdate of 1861, then that means that SH would have been some days shy of his 20th birthday on January 1, 1881.  Sherlock was a prodigy but seeing as he spent nearly three years in the pursuit of university studies and had a period of time after that on his own in digs in Montague Street, 20 years of age is too young to have done all that and already have built some reputation as a consulting detective.  If he were nearly 27, though, it is possible.

 

Doctor Watson did the full medical degree plus additional training for Army surgeons plus a year in uniform before returning home to London with his health irretrievably ruined.  It is suggested that he was about 18 months older than Holmes, making him 28 and a half when he meets his new flatmate.  We might be able to shave a year off that possibly but again, were Watson still in his early 20s in 1881, he wouldn't have had time to qualify as a doctor and also serve in uniform.

 

Easier to say that Laurie fudged her dates for her own purposes.  A Holmes of 50, 51 is a more plausible potential romantic object for a teenage girl than one nearer 60. 

 

Anyway, according to the Ur-text, Holmes is 'a man of 60' when undertaking his last canonical case for the Crown on the eve of WWI in 1914.  That is as solid as it gets.


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Posted 02 November 2017 - 10:50 PM


Christopher Morley suggested 1854 as the year of Holmes birth but I have to say that Laurie King does, for me, give a pretty decent arguement for 1861 based on the date of The Second Afghan War that Watson was invalided home from.


Actually, with respect, I think the historical dates of the Second Afghan War bolster the argument for Mr. Morley and Mr. Baring-Gould's 1854 birth year for Holmes. The war lasted from 1878 -1880, with the disastrous Battle of Maiwand occurring 27 July 1880. We know that Doctor Watson was back home in London some months later and met Sherlock Holmes in the New Year, 1881. If we take Mrs. King's birthdate of 1861, then that means that SH would have been some days shy of his 20th birthday on January 1, 1881. Sherlock was a prodigy but seeing as he spent nearly three years in the pursuit of university studies and had a period of time after that on his own in digs in Montague Street, 20 years of age is too young to have done all that and already have built some reputation as a consulting detective. If he were nearly 27, though, it is possible.

Doctor Watson did the full medical degree plus additional training for Army surgeons plus a year in uniform before returning home to London with his health irretrievably ruined. It is suggested that he was about 18 months older than Holmes, making him 28 and a half when he meets his new flatmate. We might be able to shave a year off that possibly but again, were Watson still in his early 20s in 1881, he wouldn't have had time to qualify as a doctor and also serve in uniform.

Easier to say that Laurie fudged her dates for her own purposes. A Holmes of 50, 51 is a more plausible potential romantic object for a teenage girl than one nearer 60.

Anyway, according to the Ur-text, Holmes is 'a man of 60' when undertaking his last canonical case for the Crown on the eve of WWI in 1914. That is as solid as it gets.

I’m more than a little ashamed of myself for that last post. It’s a lesson for me in not making a post just because you have 2 minutes to spare outside a hospital and you haven’t sorted the facts out in your head first! I only read of King’s proposed date this morning and for some inexplicable reason I read 1861 as if it was 1851. To compound this error I got the date of The Second Afghan War wrong in my head! So stupidly I thought that she was suggesting Holmes was 3 years older than previously proposed.

You’re absolutely correct Hikari it looks like King is doing a bit of ‘manipulation.’

I don’t mind making mistakes (we all do occasionally) but not howlers like that one.

Lesson learned I hope: engage ageing brain first then type.
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