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Series Four Episode Discussion

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Episode 1.2, "The Blind Banker"

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#401 Arcadia

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Posted 07 February 2016 - 08:44 PM

Goody, a new question! :bouncy: You're probably right, it's been discussed, but who cares. :smile:

 

I know what my first reaction to John's remark was ... he didn't want to be looked down on as just a tag-a-long friend, a nobody; he wanted to assert that he was an "equal partner" in Sherlock's business.

 

However, once I discovered the "Johnlock" theories, I thought maybe it meant John was already tired of people assuming he and Sherlock were a "couple", and said "colleague" to make it clear that they were not romantically linked.

 

I also seem to remember other people saying it was because John still wasn't sure if he wanted to be a "friend" of that oddball Sherlock, and that's why he corrected it to "colleague." A lot of people interpret Sherlock's expression after John says that as being hurt by John's rejection, so that theory would make the most sense in that case.

 

It also occurs to me; that's how Sherlock introduced him to Donovan, as a "colleague". So maybe John was just following his lead.

 

Hey, we're Sherlockians ... no easy answers around here! :D

 

Oh, and John probably wouldn't have understood by then, that he is undermining Sherlock by correcting him. I don't think they were supposed to know each other that well yet.


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Posted 08 February 2016 - 02:22 AM

Totally agree


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Posted 08 February 2016 - 05:09 AM


However, once I discovered the "Johnlock" theories, I thought maybe it meant John was already tired of people assuming he and Sherlock were a "couple", and said "colleague" to make it clear that they were not romantically linked.

n, that he is undermining Sherlock by correcting him. I don't think they were supposed to know each other that well yet.

 

The first time I saw the episode, that's how I understood that scene. John didn't want anybody getting the wrong ideas, especially not Sebastian, who comes across as exactly the kind of person whom you do not want to form an opinion on your private life (i.e. an a-hole).
 


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Posted 08 February 2016 - 02:34 PM

That's really interesting because the idea of John being concerned Sebastian would think they were together hadn't even occurred to me. 

 

Kind of linked, in relation to how well they know each other, how long do you think they are meant to have been living together at this point? They are already getting overdue bill letters so must be more than a month surely? Not that I imagine Sherlock would be someone you could get to know quickly even if you were living with him. 



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Posted 08 February 2016 - 02:49 PM

Not sure that had ever occurred to me either.  But yeah, "This is my friend" can definitely have that meaning, especially among people who feel they're too old to keep saying "boyfriend" or "girlfriend."

 


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Posted 08 February 2016 - 08:07 PM

That's really interesting because the idea of John being concerned Sebastian would think they were together hadn't even occurred to me. 
 
Kind of linked, in relation to how well they know each other, how long do you think they are meant to have been living together at this point? They are already getting overdue bill letters so must be more than a month surely? Not that I imagine Sherlock would be someone you could get to know quickly even if you were living with him.

 
I've wondered about that as well ... since John doesn't have a job yet, I've always figured it couldn't be too terribly long. Also he's surprised by the kind of fee Sherlock is offered for the work, so that implies to me that they haven't been on that many cases together yet.
 
But the bills confuse me too. Although come to think of it ... I suppose the bills aren't overdue, necessarily, just ... due. :smile: So at a guess, I'd say they'd been in Baker Street more than a few weeks, but less than a few months. (How's that for being specific! :D )


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Posted 08 February 2016 - 08:21 PM

The bills definitely have overdue stamped on them (just checked it on Netflix, sad I know, lol). I suppose it's possible they are John's from his previous address. 

I agree it doesn't seem like they've worked together much yet, so the more than a few weeks but less that a few months seems about right :)



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Posted 08 February 2016 - 11:03 PM

Ah ha, good catch. I never notice details like that. :(


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Posted 08 February 2016 - 11:14 PM

 ... since John doesn't have a job yet, I've always figured it couldn't be too terribly long. Also he's surprised by the kind of fee Sherlock is offered for the work, so that implies to me that they haven't been on that many cases together yet.

 

Not necessarily.  John has his army pension, after all, so maybe he was assuming that (with a roommate) he'd be able to live on just that (but then the bills started piling up).  And Sebastian is a banker, so the fee he offered may well be far higher than Sherlock's usual -- in which case John's surprise would indicate that they'd been on enough cases already to give him an idea of what was typical.


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Posted 08 February 2016 - 11:24 PM

Yes, I get the impression that the fee offered is definitely out of the norm. 

 

This is off topic but I've always wondered why Sherlock even needs a flatmate. He clearly comes from a well to do family and doesn't seem remotely interested in getting paid for his work which makes me think he doesn't actually need a flatmate for monetary reasons at all. However he also doesn't seem like someone who would want a flatmate just for the company. 

 

The other thing I wonder about is where he was living before. I saw a theory somewhere that he had just come out of rehab, but I don't know if I believe that. If that were true though perhaps he needs a flatmate as a kind of distraction to try to keep him from the temptation of relapsing...?


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Posted 09 February 2016 - 09:59 AM

I don't see Sherlock as someone who cares about counting those the financial stuff or being paid, or using family's money. Because of these, he might have difficulty paying for flat by himself. Since he wants to continue not caring for those, flatmate is probably one of the feasible solutions.
Anyway, he doesn't need to put a lot o effort to get along with a flatmate. He would be the alpha, whoever can't stand him can go. After all, he needs a stand-in every time Mrs.Hudson takes his skull. :)
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:32 AM

Question - the bloke who works with Soo Lin, can't remember his name, if you were working with him would you find him creepy? I don't see him as creepy in the episode since he is so unassuming, but really his actions are verging on the stalkerish. 

 

1. When he asks Soo Lin out she says 'please stop asking' leading me to think he's asked her before, and despite being turned down keeps trying. 

2. When she quits, without warning, he looks up her address and turned up uninvited and unannounced on the doorstep of her flat. 

3. When Sherlock and John turn up asking questions he can't wait to talk about Soo Lin, like he's just dying to discuss her with someone. 

 

I'm sure there was something else I'm forgetting. Anyway, is he meant to be creepy, even though he's not presented as such? Is it just a case of man-writing that they don't realise how creepy it would be for a colleague to look up your address and turn up on your doorstep when you quit?



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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:52 AM

The latter, I suspect. At any rate, I found him rather sweet and not at all creepy ... but it wasn't me he was interested in. I might feel a bit creeped if someone did that to me. It would depend on the guy, probably.


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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:55 AM

At my old job I had a guy following me about, lurking, and if he'd turned up at my doorstep after I left I would have freaked. 



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Posted 12 January 2017 - 04:02 AM

Andy.

 

My take is that he's genuinely concerned about her when she disappears, considering that he knows the reason she gave doesn't hold water.  I didn't get the feeling that he'd ever tried to track her before, he just let her know he was interested.  (And for all we know, he's only asked her maybe three times.)  I found him sweet and cute, and I suspect that Soo Lin might have also, under "normal" circumstances.  In fact, maybe she did like him, but knew that she was in danger and didn't want to endanger him by involving him in her life.


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