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Lifting The Ban on Series Four Spoilers.

As it has now been a decent amount of time since the airing of series 4 of Sherlock we feel it is prudent to relax the ban on discussion of series 4 episodes in the general Sherlock discussion areas.

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Episode 1.2, "The Blind Banker"

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#421 Pseudonym

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 06:02 PM

I suppose whatever John or Sherlock said Seb would use it as a excuse to be smug and try to belittle him. Do you think Sherlock only took that job because John needed money? I would have thought he'd have told Seb to go and screw himself, I wouldn't have helped him, especially if he's not even going to be nice now.
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#422 Arcadia

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 08:55 PM

I hadn't thought about money being the motivation for Sherlock, but looking back on it, he frequently does things in a roundabout way, doesn't he? I suppose it's possible that he was being considerate enough to not put John on the spot about money.

 

However, I mostly just assume Sherlock takes jobs because there's something about them he finds interesting. Maybe the fact that it was Seb contacting him was enough in itself to intrigue him ... after all, surely the bank has security people that already looked into it and were baffled.

 

Or maybe Seb is someone he wanted to show off for, to prove he really was as brilliant as he said he was back in school. Or maybe Sherlock was just honoring old school ties? Some people are remarkably loyal to their alma maters (although it's hard for me to imagine Sherlock being one of those. :smile: )


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#423 Artemis

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 10:17 AM

This must have been discussed earlier (I scanned quite a few of the pages, but with over 20 I might have missed it), but I was wondering what people's opinions were on John correcting Sherlock referring to him a friend by saying he's a colleague. Even if this is fairly early in their relationship it seems a bit harsh, especially when Sherlock seems to be saying friend almost defiantly, as if to point out to Sebastian that he can make friends, and then is completely undermined by John correcting him. Even at this stage John must feel that he and Sherlock are more friends than colleagues, they do live together after all. I really hate Sebastian's smug smile that Sherlock would try to pass off a colleague as a friend, like he is so alien he has no idea of the difference. 

So what does everyone think? Is there a reason behind this I'm missing? Why does John do it?

 

I saw an interesting post about this on tumblr the other day, if anyone cares to have a read.

 

https://mid0nz.tumbl...-mid0nz-john-is

 

 


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#424 Arcadia

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 01:58 PM

Thanks, Artemis! I love those. As much as I think TBB is one of their weakest episodes, it fairly drips with lovely little character moments like that.


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#425 Carol the Dabbler

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:23 PM

... I was wondering what people's opinions were on John correcting Sherlock referring to him a friend by saying he's a colleague.

 

I saw an interesting post about this on tumblr the other day, if anyone cares to have a read.

 

https://mid0nz.tumbl...-mid0nz-john-is

 

Thanks, Artemis!  That's a very carefully thought-out piece.  I particularly like this part:

 

What I love about the “Friend” “Colleague” moment is that they are both using the appellation they are proud of, that they think is better, but in the process both inadvertently offend the other.

 

John is feeling a bit worthless - he has no job, has just had to ask Sherlock for money, Sherlock has already said the Work is the most important thing. Now he’s tagging along with Sherlock to see a Very Important Business type, and Sherlock introduces him as a ‘friend’? Why is he even there? So he corrects that to ‘colleague’ someone involved in the Work, someone who has a role and a right to be there. He’s not just a friend tagging along for kicks, he’s Sherlock Holmes’ colleague- something he’s proud of. Not realising that to Sherlock, having a friend to show off is actually more important.

 

By the way, the shooting script of Blind Banker (quoted in that piece) has been up on the BBC website for a few years now -- and the shooting scripts of the other two S1 episodes have just been added.  :D


-- Carol

 






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