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I'm not sure if this is already a topic, but I'm really curious as to what everyone's favourite scene involving Sherlock and John is in series 3. 

Personally, mine is in The Empty Hearse, when Sherlock appears in the restaurant and surprises John, I think that whole scene is just hilarious! 

looking forward to hear your opinions!

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Two years on from reports of his Reichenbach Fall demise, Holmes resurfaces, as London comes under threat of a huge terrorist attack.

 

I'll start with the theme of Sherlock's understanding of and actual practice of friendship.  Throughout S3, we see that Mycroft and Sherlock never had many friends, first by accident as children, then by being isolated by their intelligence, and later by choice.  Mycroft has been the enforcer on this, as he emphasizes to Sherlock his disdain for forming any kind of attachment to anyone or anything and his feeling that this is a weakness, an attitude that Sherlock has adopted.  But what do we see happen in S3?

The Empty Hearse:  Here, Sherlock's understanding of friendship is at its most infantile.  In fact, I think the writers make him regress a little bit so we can see the trajectory develop, although it pleases me to instead imagine that two years getting the pulp beaten out of you by Moriarty's network while you're on solo mission could make anyone socially regress.  But here he starts by thinking that everyone in his life will stay static.  He's frankly amazed that John can't laugh off his reappearance.  And even when he (quickly, to his credit) realizes that he's wrong, he thinks an apology is going to fix it.  ("I said I'm sorry; isn't that what you're supposed to do?")

Of course, he gets this attitude from his exposure to Mycroft.  They say that siblings are people's first friends; while I don't know that Sherlock and Mycroft were ever "friends," there is a constancy to family that you don't get anywhere else.  Sherlock can disappear off the grid for months or years, and when he comes back his relationship with Mycroft will still be the same prickly, contentious thing it ever has been.  He expects that his friendship with John will be the same.

The Sign of Three:  So by TSoT, he realizes that he has a completely different animal here in the form of his friendship with John, and he doesn't want to do this wrong.  Luckily, being an honor attendant at a wedding is one of the best-scripted friendship roles in the entire world.  What does your best friend (best man) do?  He helps the groom with any planning, throws the stag night, reads the telegrams,makes the speech, and dances with the chief bridesmaid.  It's all there in the book.  We see a few wonderful flashes of genuine friendship, such as some of the wonderful speech quotes, the discussion with Mary about her pregnancy, and the composition of the first dance waltz, but otherwise, Sherlock is trying to be the best friend possible without having any organic understanding or practice of how that really works.  He just knows that he's been informed that John considers him his best friend, and he's not going to muck this up.

His Last Vow:  Which sets us up so nicely for HLV.  By this point, Sherlock doesn't need instructions.  Certain friends you are willing to live and die for.  John is one of those friends, and Sherlock is going to move heaven and earth to make sure that he's not hurt.  It isn't just the idea of recovering from asystole and living "for" John, it's also the goodbye before the exile.  This time, Sherlock is going to postpone John's grieving as long as possible by not admitting that he's off on a suicide mission.  This time, he knows what his death would mean.  (And I believe John knows full well the broad outlines of the danger, if not the specifics.)  So this is a truly adult and evolved sense of friendship.  

Kind of fun to take the three episodes as one continuous "movie."  What does everyone else see thematically?

Some of mine are:

• "Not much cop, this caring lark" (Sherlock, TGG)

Sherlock's got a valid point here, though it's perhaps a bit disturbing. And if John had chosen to remain angry and not help Sherlock, would that be justifiable in any way?

• "I'm Sherlock Holmes, and I always work alone, because no one else can compete with my massive intellect!" (John, TBB)

So true for Sherlock all the way through the series!

• "Thank you for smoking" (Sherlock, THoB)
• "The wall had it coming" (Sherlock, TGG)

Quite simply two very funny and excentric quotes

• "No one can fake being such an annoying dick all the time" (John, TRF)

Awwwww! What else can I say? Tough love!

Twenty plus people knew about the plan, not just Sherlock's family, but also his homeless network. And the reason Sherlock gives John is a fear that he might be indiscreet. When was he ever indiscreet?!

I understand that John's grief added to the drama (though if you ask me, he recovered from it so quickly I barely see the point) but couldn't the writers come up with something better than that? Couldn't they say that there were suspicions and John  may have been in danger, anything that would warrant him suffering for two years! But 'I thought you might blab' (can't remember exact words, sorry) must have been like a huge slap in the face for John. I suppose at least it explains why he wanted to punch Sherlock multiple times! I just felt it could have been improved on. Am I missing something?

Solution 1: Moriarty Faked his own Death

A Tesselecta owed Moriarty a favour. JUST KIDDING. The first time I saw his death scene I thought that it was perfectly possible that he faked his own death with a fake gun and fake blood. We were never shown a hole in his head. We never learned what happed to his body, except that it WASN'T found by the authorities because Lestrade didn't use that fact to challenge the theory that Sherlock used Moriarty's body to throw off the roof. I would be satisfied with this solution because I don't really care if they stray from the books and Moriarty is such a great arch-nemesis for sherlock.

Solution 2: Trick by Mycroft and Sherlock

Mycroft and Sherlock could have done it to avoid his banishment. But this would be incredibly predictable and BORING.

Solution 3: Moriarty Planned this before he Died

I think that this would be an interesting route to go down. Moriarty planned for the possibility of Sherlock surviving and planned a "Game" that would take place after his death. It could involve lots of pre-recorded messages from Moriarty which would allow us to see more new Moriarty scenes without him actually surviving.

Solution 4: It's a Trap for Sherlock from another Villain

Possibly a new villain, the remains of the Moriarty network, a Moriarty fan or Moriarty's brother (twin perhaps?)

Solution 5: Moriarty is Richard Brook

I think that this would be a very interesting solution. Moriarty really is a character played by Richard Brook. Richard Brook plays an avatar of the real Moriarty, who has remained unseen throughout the series. Remember in the Series 1 finale, Moriarty used random victims as avatars to communicate through, and he didn't want anyone to know any details about him, even going as far as to kill the old woman when she started describing his voice to sherlock. He's doing thd same thing here on a much more elaborate scale. And Why go through all that trouble to keep your voice unknown if you we're going to reveal yourself to Sherlock and become so public in Series 2. Maybe Richard Brook WAS scared when Sherlock broke into his house and all the actor stuff was true. He is paid to be Moriarty's avatar, the acting job of his career. The true Moriarty is still out there, using a GIF of his avatar to let the world know he's back. Maybe the timing of his return wasn't a coincidence. Maybe CAM knew that Richard Brook was real or Moriarty's true identity and CAM's death allowed Moriarty to rise from the shadows.

Feel free to Post your theories on how you think the cliffhanger will be resolved.

http://www.denofgeek.us/tv/sherlock/241667/111-things-you-might-not-know-about-sherlock-season-3

I tried to pick the three most controversial points in each episode (and I freely admit I was reaching in Sign, which seems comparatively conflicting-interpretations-free) from a general feeling of what has been discussed round here. If I picked wrong, please tell me so in this thread!

A special plea to the many registered forum users here who haven't yet joined us in posting: I made this poll anonymous, so not even us moderators can see who voted what. So please consider sharing your opinion by voting, even if you generally refrain from doing so. The more people vote, the more representative the result will be. Thank you .

1.  Parliament Hill - this is part of the greater Hamstead Heath park

2.  Camden Locks - just N.E. of Regent's Park

3.  Dagmar Court - I could only find an apartment building with that name about 5-6 miles N.E. of Regent's Park, so if anyone knows anything different, please let me know.

4.  Blind Greenhouse at Kew Gardens.  Lots of greenhouses there but can't find one specifically called "Blind" - so please let me know if I've missed something.

5.  Leaning tomb at Hamstead Cemetery... well, there are probably lots of leaning tombs there as it's an old cemetery.

6.  Molly's bedroom.

7.  Behind Big Ben's clock face - yes, you can get back there but dang, it would be freakishly noisy.

8.  Leinster Gardens - yes, it is a definite place just as portrayed in HLV with the facades.

But I am genuinely baffled about the issues people have with HLV.

Question is, why is the door on the street labeed 221B? Should it not be 221? Past that door are apartments A and B. Historically was the street door not marked simply 221?

What's up with that?

1. The pool scene (TGG)

2. The rooftop scene with Sherlock and John (TRF)

3. Sherlock's best man speech takes an affectionate turn (TSo3)

4. Sherlock fights his way back to life for John (HLV)

All of them great scenes, don't you think?

My suggestion, in order to make the final election more interesting, is to score each of these four scenes with numbers 1-4; 4 being given to your favorite scene.

I'll start out:

The rooftop scene: 4

The best man speech: 3

The pool scene: 2

Sherlock fights his way back to life: 1

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No way would Sherlock Holmes execute someone! Especially not because they outwitted him and backed him into a corner. Poor script writing resulting in Sherlock crossing a bridge he never would have done traditionally. He's a highly functioning sociopath not an assassin! Now that doors been opened surely he can just blow away his rivals every time instead of outwitting them, its gonna make for some very short future episode's. A sad day in Sherlock history:(

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He's a sociopath, its not a grumpy phase he's being going through for the last 120 year's of compelling entertainment, and I like him that way. He's supposed to be slightly detestable and frustrating, that's his character. Why try and make him a fluffy lovable slightly eccentric doctor who stylized character for any other reason than being a lazy un-imaginative script writer. The same guy that writes doctor who is clearly merging the two main characters, but we don't need two doctor who series. And I don't want to see Sherlock and Watson's relationship turn into something from beauty and the beast. STOP Humanizing your ruining it!

So -- what are your favorite Sherlock moments?

Vote for your 5 top moments in Sherlock, and gradually we will narrow it down from 25 to 1. I have picked the scenes by browsing the 'favorite Sherlock moments' thread on this forum and from my general knowledge of which scenes are popular. If you don't like the 25 scenes I've started with, all I can say is that it's hard to pick. These are not all the 25 scenes I would have started out with, but obviously many of them are my favorites too

I'll start out. Oooh, this is hard!

For example, I was hoping for a retraction or apology from Kitty Riley.  She was an interesting character, and I was curious to see how she'd handle it.

What about the rest of you?  What failed to materialize from your wish list -- or from your boggart cupboard?