Carol the Dabbler

I agree with you on the relative importance, so I checked my copies. The Baring-Gould annotated set (inherited from my father) is arranged according to B-G's own chronology rather than by the usual collections, but he does have the deduction only in "The Cardboard Box." The BBC Books paperback editions (with Cumberbatch and Freeman on the covers) have "Cardboard Box" in Last Bow AND have that same anecdote in both stories (although in "Cardboard Box" it takes place on "a blazing hot day in August," whereas in "Resident Patient" it's "a close, rainy day in August"). Seems odd that Moffat & Gatiss, who pride themselves on being Holmes addicts, would have put their stamp on a modified version. HOWEVER -- I see online [in "Leslie Klinger's Notes" from sherlockian.net] that omitting "Cardboard Box" from Memoirs seems to have been ACD's own idea. He mentioned in a postcard, "There was a certain sex element in The Cardboard Box story and for this reason I discarded it when I published in book form." That being the case, it seems likely to me that splicing Holmes's nifty deduction into "Resident Patient" was ACD's own idea. Then of course he later decided (or was persuaded) to publish "Cardboard Box" after all. If he even remembered having borrowed its lead anecdote, I doubt that it bothered him much, since he claimed [here] that writing about Holmes "takes my mind from better things."

Hello, Curt, and welcome to Sherlock Forum! You were a very observant (and inventive) kid! I'm not sure which version of "Cardboard Box" I've read (though probably the unbutchered one), but kinda wonder whether I would have noticed a duplicated passage, regardless of my age at the time.

Thanks, Herlock. Well, Dennis, there's your definitive answer -- if Herlock doesn't know of any appearance by Adler, then there wasn't one.

Yes, looked at from that perspective, giving advice is a huge responsibility. Even if it's taken in the way that you meant it, which it may not be. Though I do try to say "here's how I do it" or "you might consider doing it this way" rather than "do it this way" or "I think you should do it this way." Oh, I don't know that he ever claimed that Frodo heard it from Bilbo. He just had Bilbo saying it. But in both the book and the movie it's presented as something of an old saying, so who knows where it originated? (And who can argue with it?)

I remembered that saying, but wasn't sure who said it, or in which of Tolkien's books. Looks like it's from somewhere in Lord of the Rings. But if Peter Jackson is to be believed, Frodo may have heard it from Bilbo -- who I'm pretty sure said it to Elrond in one of the Hobbit movies.

Hi, Dennis -- welcome to Sherlock Forum! Like Caya, I'm no expert, and It's been a while since I watched the Rathbone movies -- but I don't offhand recall them ever having Irene Adler as a character. I did find this on IMDb (on the Quotes page for Dressed to Kill) : Watson : Humph, Irene Adler, what a striking looking woman from the brief glance I had of her. Seems only yesterday. What charm. Hmmmm. What poise. And what a mind! Sharp enough and brilliant enough to outwit the-the great Sherlock Holmes himself! Holmes : I take it that the new issue of the Strand Magazine is out containing another of your slightly lurid tales. Watson : It is indeed! Holmes : And what do you call this one? Watson : I call it "A Scandal in Bohemia." Not a bad title, huh? Holmes : Hmm. If you must record my exploits, I do wish you would put less emphasis on the melodramatic and more on the intellectual issues involved. Watson : More on the intel... what do you mean by that? Holmes : Well I do hope you've given, um, *The* Woman a soul, she had one, you know. Watson : By *The* Woman, I suppose you mean Irene Adler? Holmes : Yes... I shall always remember her... as *The* Woman. So apparently no actress in that movie, just some talk *about* the character. I wouldn't be surprised if that was as close as they got in those movies.

Movies? Are they still making those? I gradually lost interest as they increasingly substituted sound volume for plots. The franchises that might lure me back (despite generally being part of that trend) all seem to be either completed or on hiatus. I would probably have gone to see the new Black Panther movie except that, sadly, the lead actor died. Sorry I can't help you. Ya wanna come over and watch some DVDs?

No, I don't recall ever eating that dish. But even small details can make a big difference, and the sauce is a relatively major difference. Good heavens!

That's good advice, and the rest of Jess's post has details on the scam. (Mouse-over the upper right corner of the quote box, and you'll see a curly arrow. Click on it, and you'll be taken to the post. This works for any quote box on this forum.) eBay is apparently aware of their shaky reputation, and is attempting to redeem themselves with an "Everyone Deserves Real" ad campaign, basically stating that they now have a department that "authenticates" things. Unfortunately that does not address the aforementioned scam, it merely purports to protect people who don't want to get stuck with a fake Rolex. As Jess also says earlier in this thread, think of eBay as a garage sale. You'd feel comfortable buying a used lamp at a garage sale, right? But if they had a whole load of brand-new lamps in their original boxes, that just wouldn't feel right. So even if eBay promises that their seller is dealing in genuine authenticated lamps (or Rolexes), do you really want to save money by buying (most likely) stolen goods?

I'm torn between giving that a heart (or a sad) and giving it a ha-ha, but the forum won't let me do more than one. So here I sit, conflicted and unable to act.

We started discussing it when the idea was first raised, but implementation may take some time.

I'm afraid you're probably right about that. However I think VBS's motive was primarily her own peace of mind, and that can be worth quite a lot.

... as long as we use our own fur. As Uncle Felix says in Christmas in Connecticut (the original 1940s movie), "Nobody needs a mink coat except the mink!" I guess I should actually say "as long as we don't use somebody else's skin," because I don't object to wool, as long as it's not still attached to the sheep's hide. So why do we say "fur coat"?

We weren't talking about that kind of "pretty" But I agree with your digression!

According to the article I linked to above, the official reason for re-inventing wooly mammoths is so they can tear down trees in arctic regions and restore the ancient grassland. But I wonder what the local humans think of that idea? The trees have been there for probably thousands of years, so people are presumably relying on them for lumber and for heating their homes, as well as for wildlife habitat. Also, they may not want gigantic critters stomping on their cabbage patch. When they reintroduced deer to Indiana, they thought it would be cute to have them in the state park. But nobody told the deer to stay in the park, and there are no longer wolves in Indiana, so the deer have pretty much overrun the state. So who is going to tell the neo-mammoths that they mustn't leave the designated area?