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  1. Thanks for all comments. This is going to be long, though not too long, but I just want to clarify a few ideas. My point is not really to defend Mary and be biased. https://wellingtongoose.livejournal.com/28988.html has some interesting thoughts. I just want some people to see what she's like. For me she wants to let go of her past, be a mother to Rosie, a wife to John and work in a different setting. She's decided to move out of danger. However, her past catches up with her in the form of Ajay. There are reasons why she doesn't want to talk to John and Sherlock, but we're not told what they are. Gatiss said she wanted to kill CAM and shot Sherlock because she was vulnerable. When Sherlock enters the office she's scared and asks if John's with him. At the hospital she's frightened. If she wanted to murder him she could've done that easily without anyone noticinh this at the hospital. I understand why some viewers may be outraged. If we look at the script carefully, we can see why she did some things or why she said certain words. Mary investigates with Sherlock and John for a while. That's why I said that if Sherlock saw her as a threat he'd move her from John's path asking Mycroft to fake a car accident for example. This wellingtongoose user has some interesting thoughts about other issues as well, related to the series. S/he, though I think it's a woman, seems to be a voice of reason online amid all the hatred that's circling around. As for being grey I say it applies to Lady Smallwood more then to Molly. And the idea about Rosie is meant to be ironic, I think. I don't think Mary wanted to murder Sherlock. She wanted to kill Magnussen. Why? Listen to this. Have you read the original story? If not I'm revealing the ending, so make a decision to read more. Who shot CAM? A lady. Sherlock Holmes (not Sherlock, that's modern) knows her name, but doesn't reveal it to Inspector Lestrade. Why? Because he's protecting her. Don't we get a similar disussion between Lestrade and John? Now, why would Sherlock protect Mary? Because he knows she's not the equivalent of a killer employed by Bond's Blofeld. That's why earlier I made references to Poirot and glass shattering. Mycroft mentions the mirror in Sherlock's mind palace. Sherlock in his mind palace says the mirror is complete. When Sherlock enters the room he thinks it's Lady Smallwood on account of the perfume. Lady, see? In the story the woman who shot Millverton was respectable. We don't know if she was an aristocrat with a title, but she wasn't a tradesman's wife, from what I gathered. The issue concerned letters. Didn't Lady Smallwood's husband write something? That's my idea, didn't find anything to support my view online. In the BBC series it's Mary standing over Magnussen. That's a nice twist I think. Look at Mary's laugh when CAM tells Sherlock she'll kill them both. She knows who to kill, why and when. She wants to kill CAM, not Sherlock. Why? She has a conscience. That's why I said that Sherlock lures her to Leinster Gardens to ask her to fill the gaps and takes John with him. Why does he rush out of the hospital? To make deductions before getting both John and Mary to come and make up. However, he needs to Mary to complete his train of thought. That's why he says he'll take the case and smiles at the bewildered woman. He spends a lot of time at Leinster Gardens from what we know because Mycroft and quite a number of people serach for him. That's why I said he uses the facade bit and the police will find my body to get Mary to tell the facts. I compared that to Vivian and how the secretary is unlike Mary. I'm not saying I'm so intelligent. A number of people online claimed that when Sherlock shoots CAM fatally it's sexist because it's a lady who kills Millverton. I disagree with them. The modern Sherlock has flaws, sure like Mary at Leinster Gardens(my original question), but it's quite good. The thing is it requires analysis and it's easier to show hate online then think logically, using plain common sense or grey cells and ask others for opinions. Each episode is a mind blowing riddle, to be sure, well except the first one about the cabbie. You can disagree and I know that Mary's actions might be hard to swallow. Like I said I think she navigates between John and Sherlock more than Molly does. She's a distraction in my opinion and has been in the series for too long. I read online some say it's Mycroft. Not in my view. He gets a lot of screen time sure, but he's not a plot device. Remember that John's surprised that Mary says she likes Sherlock? Does that mean she's manipulative? She's not Eurus, who is a real threat, though a sister too. I also made a reference to the ending of The Sign of Four when Holmes tells Watson that the then Miss Morstan would be good at what they do. The whole concept of Sherlock Holmes novels and stories is based on an intellectual puzzle. Yes, I'm angry that Moffat fails to explain things in the series and Gatiss in interviews, but if you spend 3 months scouring the internet you may find some interesting things. Not being able to find what you're looking for can be irritating, but we have to live with this, I guess. Thanks for your patience. I felt I had to make a longer comment for clarification purposes after reading other remarks.
  2. https://stanfordartsreview.com/2020/12/26/sorry-sherlock-fans-but-sherlock-season-5-wont-be-returning-in-2021-heres-why/ It's not official, but reliable.
  3. It doesn't surprise me that a Polish member lives in Germany. I like all sorts of crime stories. Poirot, Maigret, etc.
  4. One of the reasons I asked this question is to find how others view this scene. You're welcome to share my post on this forum, just state my name. Yes, 007 is a secret agent as well. However he kills people and his bosses criticise him for it sometimes, but he manages to get out of trouble, it's fiction. That doesn't mean he lacks a moral backbone. In one scene Mycroft picks up the phone (can't remember what episdoe) and says M into the headpiece, so I figured out it's THAT M and Mycroft is kind of his subordinate. I use "kind of" especially to highlight the vaguness of what he actually does. My point was that even in Mary killed somebody it wasn't as if she went on a shooting rampage like in a horror film! The men in Magnussen's office were unconscious for a while and Sherlock didn't seem to have pity for the criminal with five dots on his arm. She knows who to kill, why and when. Notice that when Magnussen is kneeling he says to Sherlock that Mary will kill them both and she's smiling. Why? Because she wanted to kill only one man, she's mocking CAM with that facial expression.
  5. Bon Apetit then. I'm Polish and my name is Katarzyna, Catherine in English. However, there's not Kat in Polish as an abbreviation, so this is my idea. Maybe others will write a comment. You can write anytime. I know the transcript. It's great almost like a professional screenplay. I read it on live.journal myself. With hindsight that scene reminds me a bit of Vivian, the secretary. Sherlock is trying to get her to speak, but is too sure of himself. Mary warns him, bu he being Sherlock doesn't heed. Then Mary dies. Yes, I know she died in the stories but not like this with Mycroft, and a bunch of agents/police officers in the room! I thought the Norbury bit was nicely done. Sherlock talks to Mrs. Hudson, who gets more screen time in the BBC version then even in the Guy Richie film. In the Holmes stories you get potential villains saying something like no, please Mr. Holmes I have 3 children, it's not like that I'll explain. Don't send me to prison! When Sherlock asks Mary how good a shot he is he doesn't mean it literally. At this point he knows she called an ambulance. When she says how badly you want to find out it's humour. I find English humour complicated sometimes and a bit insulting, but not here. Also when Sherlock says the doctor's wife is bored, he's provoking her to speak the truth like he did with Norbury at the aquarium. However, Norbury is evil from the start. Mary was an assassin, yes, but she worked for Mycroft and the British Government. Isn't 007 an assassin too? There's a difference between killing people like Blofeld and his cronies and killing because you have to sometimes. Mary went to Georgia to rescue the ambassador and his wife, but Vivian betrayed Lady Smallwood in a way and everything went wrong. It's so easy to say a character shot another one. Thinking and understanding why requires the use of "grey cells" to quote another great detective created by a wonderful lady at a time when women were still seen as decoration. I'm going to stare out of the window now to rest my eyes as it's past 1 am CET.
  6. I read online that season 5 could be in 2023 depending on how the pandemic goes.
  7. One continent is Asia, the other is Europe. The third could be Africa. As a soldier he'd have to pass through the Suez Canal, opened in 1869 to get to Britian. That was quite a thing! Crossing South Africa took a lot of time. He doesn't seem a Don Juan to me. Oh, I'm Polish and my name is Katarzyna, Catherine in English, so I made it into Kat, although such an abbreviation doesn't exist in Polish. It's my idea.
  8. In the Sign of Four the doctor and narrator says about his experiences with various women on 3 continents. As we can only guess what the continents are I'd like to focus on his relationships with women. It's hard to imagine he'd visit a house of ill repute for the middle class in London or Paris as a doctor. Sure, doctors visited such places, but I can't imagine this one there. I can't imagine him in a luxurious brothel either due to the pricing. He wouldn't want to risk catching something. Yes, knowledge of diseases was minimal then, but we're in the 1880's, so he knew something. There''s also that quote from Holmes about the "fair sex" being his ''department", which amazes me greatly. What experiences could the doctor have in mind? He can't have been the lover of an aristocratic lady or the wife of a factory owner in my view. Thanks for comments and help.
  9. I'm aware that Mary is a controversial character, but I understood why she shot Sherlock and for me she's not a baddie. Sherlock explains what happened. In his mind palace Mycroft draws his attention to the fact that the mirror didn't shatter. Besides if Sherlock thought that Mary was a nasty killer he wouldn't have asked John to come to the empty house; he would've asked Mycroft to help him make Mary disappear. Maybe he'd arrange for her to die in a car accident and let her live elsewhere away from the UK. Sherlock agrees to take Mary's case and John asks her to sit in the parlour like a client. I think Sherlock says that bit about the police figuring out she killed him to get her to reveal her version of events. He made some deductions about her before escaping from the hospital and cming to the empty house to think. Many viewers have pointed out she carries a gun. For me that's a plot hole. She didn't take a gun with her to Leinster Gardens specifically to murder Sherlock. Besides John and Sherlock wonder around London with weapons too and we're not in a John Wayne western, but in modern UK. Sherlock is trying to get Mary to talk and fill in some gaps for him. That's what Holmes did as created by Conan Doyle. What do you think of the mysterious sentence Sherlock says? Thanks for comments.
  10. I like your answer. Thanks for not saying it's vulgar, though it deals with erotic stuff. At first I thought I'd put it in the general section and see what the moderators think. Having said that it could be split into two and posted in either the BBC Sherlock section or the original stories section. Glad to be welcomed. I saw season 4 in 2017 like most people and joined the forum now as probably I don't need to write spolier alert before my comments.
  11. In A Sign of Four Watson says that he has had various experiences with many women. Holmes says that this is his 'department'. In BBC Sherlock John has many girlfriends in seasons 1 and 2. Moreover in season 4 Sherlock actually tells John that he's an expert in women. Do you think that Watson was a Casanova and that's why John is shown as a bit of a womaniser? I find it hard to believe that dr. Watson could have mistresses or visit houses of ill repute that catered to the middle class as he wouldn't be able to afford the luxurious ones. Moreover, as a doctor I think he'd have some knowledge of diseases. The modern John would certainly be aware of the danger. I'm not insisting he's a womaniser and am open to various ideas. Thank you for your help.
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