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  • Favorite series 1 episode
    A Study In Pink
  • Favourite Series 2 Episode
    The Reichenbach Fall
  • Favourite Series 3 Episode
    The Empty Hearse
  • Favourite series 4 episode
    The Final Problem

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  1. Janine certainly showed that she wouldn't just lay down and cry, but stand up for herself... so, yeah, I'd agree. Not that there's anything wrong with crying, mind you, and that's probably how I'd have reacted So, changed my rating of this episode and made it my favorite of series 4 after having just finished watching all of Sherlock once again. Where The Lying Detective impressed me most on the first viewing, The Final Problem has grown on me and become one of my favorites. It manages to keep me riveted throughout its 90 minute run, even after having watched it 4-5 times. It also has a great emotional balance, whereas The Lying Detective - while a great story - feels sort of depressing to me.
  2. It is like in TLD. In both, he must get John past being angry. He has to expend his rage. It must be released rather than repressed. Once he has released it, he can move past it - as we see happens in both. That is John's nature. Okay, I understand what you mean now I just don't read the same into TEH, because Sherlock seemed so much more clueless back then.
  3. :D I don't necessarily rank by enjoyment either, but I actually do enjoy TRF for the sheer brilliance of it. TLD, however... One of my faves, but it's still pretty painful to watch parts of it. But that's also what I love; it has emotional depth. I guess you could say I rank by "enjoyment", or by affection for an episode. On closer consideration I am modifying my ranking: 1. The Reichenbach Fall 2. The Lying Detective 3. A Study in Pink 4. The Final Problem 5. The Empty Hearse 6. The Sign of Three 7. The Great Game 8. The Hounds of Baskerville 9. A Scandal in Belgravia 10. The Abominable Bride 11. His Last Vow 12. The Six Thatchers 13. The Blind Banker
  4. I don't believe he meant it at all. He was acting. And he lets this facade down only at the end when replying to Mary's question: "You don't know anything about human nature do you?l" "Mmmm, nature? No." he replies flippantly. "Human? he says more slowly, pausing to give Mary a serious look. "No" he states in a deeper, self-confidant tone. And then he smiles. This is Sherlock essentially winking at Mary. And Mary smiles back at him. She gets it. This was NOT blindness but knowing action. Recognizing that his WHY she immediately says she will help Sherlock. "I'll talk him round." I know I should probably take this discussion to The Empty Hearse thread... but I think that thread is less active, and I'm really curious to hear people's versions of this scene I interpret Mary's words like she is saying: "I know you don't really understand human nature, and that's why I'm going to help you". Sherlock's words just sound like he's making a joke, splitting human nature up in two separate terms so as to emphasize the fact that he understands next to nothing of either one. I can't quite follow you as to why Sherlock would act ignorant here... That hardly seems helpful in getting John to let go of his anger and forgive him. What does everyone else think?
  5. Mrs. Hudson! I expected Molly Hooper, to be honest.
  6. I don't think Sherlock was ignorant at all of John's feelings in TEH. I think he was completely calculating - as much as he was in TLD. I think TEH and TLD are echoes of each other in this regard. In both, Sherlock knows John is hurting (supposedly at Sherlock's hand). In both Sherlock has to get John past the wall he erects which is his anger and rage, and to the point of acceptance - so that they may renew and reaffirm their friendship. Thus, in both Sherlock provokes John in order to get him to release that rage (physically - so as to break down that wall) in order that John may then get past it. Early in The Empty Hearse it definitely seems to me that Sherlock is ignorant - to some extent, at least - of John's feelings. When he shows up in the restaurant it takes him a moment to catch up with the fact that John is furious. He probably expected John to get angry, but not like this. When Sherlock talked to Mary and said, "I don't understand - I said I was sorry, isn't that what you're supposed to do?" I believe he really meant that. He just didn't get it. But when John left, I think Sherlock started to realise the depth of John's anger and sorrow. He caught up quickly after that. Yep, noticed that too It made perfect sense to end the song there! I also feel that this was a darker, tougher series than the previous ones - however, The Final Problem still had a good energy, some exhilarating scenes and funny moments. The Lying Detective too, actually, but most of it was very solemn. The Six Thatchers was just a bit... low key. I enjoy how you keep catching these references to the 'love' theme of series 4 Some of them escape my attention completely. Ha! :D You're right; that would be upside-down! John falling for the ex-assasin, Sherlock for the girl-next-door! ;) Alas, I am not convinced that he doesn't prefer Irene, though. But never mind... that would never last or become anything serious. Perhaps Sherlock would eventually fall for Molly.
  7. Agreed, but the backdrop was Sherlock being a jerk after returning from exile, having pretended to be dead for two years At this point, a similar plot would be considered character regression, not development. I love TEH, don't get me wrong, but I don't want to see Sherlock being that ignorant of someone's feelings again - at least not in such a serious context. He's grown too much for that.
  8. Yes yes Eurus mentions him, says he owns a TV station and helped her broadcast the message! Also, just went to Rotten Tomatoes and the audience ratings are only 32%!! A whole lot of people only gave the season one half star. I call that outrageous. I left one good rating, not sure it'll help much as nearly 2000 people have reviewed it. Goody! Now I've got something to look for when I watch the episode again That sounds outrageous to me as well. I can't help but think that a lot of people are simply frustrated that it didn't turn out how they wanted, and they forget to acknowledge how good the series is compared to so much other television. But of course people can do whatever they want, and my interpretation is obviously affected by my own feelings about series 4. I just hope Moffat and Gatiss get the positive feedback as well. I think they deserve it.
  9. I would love to see one final episode like that, but without character or story arc, there seems to be little point in continuing the show. Could be wrong, though
  10. What I find really weird is that he has a brother and neither Sherlock nor Mycroft have mentioned him, and we haven't seen a picture either? Especially now we know he helped Eurus. Heck, I'd even take Andrew Scott with a prosthetic nose, if they can't be twins! :lol: Moriarty has a brother? In this BBC version of Sherlock? I have to quote the man himself and say: "What did I miss?"
  11. Well, maybe we should go to review sites and try to help even out the score? Critics usually shout louder, but it doesn't have to be that way. One of the things I love most about this episode, and all of series 4, is how it connects with the overall story and character arc. Sherlock continues to change, to understand the consequences of his actions, to get to know himself better, and to let his guard down. John, too, has a moment of really letting his guard down, and the result for both men is that they are able to be much more honest - with themselves and with each other. The Final Problem - while focused quite a lot on a new character - brings Sherlock and John to a point in their friendship where they stand side by side, with no reservations. And that's how it ends. It mirrors the beginning of the show... I keep thinking of that moment in ASiP when Sherlock and John walk away together at the end. It's magic on screen for me, and from the first moment I watched it, I knew that this was going to be a great friendship. When it comes to Sherlock's character arc, Lestrade sums it up - Sherlock has gone from being a great man to being a good one. Again, this mirrors ASiP. Then there's all the other relationships... Everything is tied up neatly. I know I'm just sentimental, though, and as such, I really love this series and this episode.
  12. It is hard to imagine Sherlock without Moriarty in it in some way, isn't it? Although, it did work in several episodes, actually, but most of us have always seemed reluctant to let him go. At the same time, it doesn't seem reasonable to keep him in just for further flashbacks, and if there was a twin, surely Mycroft and Sherlock would know about it by now... Oh well, doesn't matter - bring him back, just for the fun of it! I'd even accept the 'fake death' explanation just to see him again :D (Kidding... maybe)
  13. Fantastic, thanks! I think the love feelings of Sherlock have yet to be cultivated. Molly is happy anyway. That was a nice video! I agree; I like how BC talks about Sherlock still having to discover his feelings (whatever those feelings may be). Makes me think that there is still potential for character development, even though Sherlock has already grown so much. But I will also be happy leaving it up to my own imagination
  14. Did anyone else scream at Sherlock, when John said, "Vatican Cameos," and Sherlock took out his earpiece?! Seriously, danger flags going up all over the place! Sherlock, you idiot! I do think I understand why he did it, though. At least my interpretation of it is that he wanted to gain his sisters trust.
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