What other TV shows do you watch?

[Pseudonym]

Ah okay, thanks!  

I don't know why, I just wasn't interested enough to finish watching that one. The actress played a character who murdered one of my favourite characters in Misfits so maybe that's why I wasn't all that inclined to sympathise with her. 

Black Museum was another one of my favourites, though when he's telling the story of the doctor I started feeling pretty queasy!

[Van Buren Supernova]

Yes, Black Museum is.. that. The second story scares me the most though. I can't imagine how it's like, and I don't like hugs, so good god!

 

@girl in Fifteen Millions Merit, I knew it!  Very sure she was in Misfits, as a very religious girl from that religious school rite?

Spoiler for Misfits

The killing happens when she was brought back to life as in later episode rite? But I forget who she killed. Is it Nathan or Simon? It's not Curtis. (It's amazing that I remember those names). Or Rudi? I can't imagine you'd miss Nathan and Curtis as they are not as likeable and Nathan had that resurrection ability. I suppose Simon and Rudi are much more likable, at least to me. But I also remember Simon died in later season?

It's interesting that they manage to make me like Simon a lot considering he was a creepy stalker murderer in first season. And girlfriend in freezer was not very entertaining to me back then when I just started to stay on my own. But I like the song though, Delicate. Geez, somehow I remember quite a lot of details but anything beyond Simon is lost to me.

 

 

Okayyy. 6 times log in to post 2 replies. I'm outta here.

[Pseudonym]

Yup that's her. 

Spoiler

None of the above, she killed Alicia. She and Simon were finally happy together and then psycho girl slit her throat, which is what prompted Simon to go back in time to make her fall in love with him. Ahhh, I loved the reveal of future-Simon, when she follows him back to his lair. 

What was the second story? My mind has gone blank. Oh, was it the teddy?

[Carol the Dabbler]

8 hours ago, Van Buren Supernova said:

Okayyy. 6 times log in to post 2 replies. I'm outta here.

I know you travel sometimes -- have you had a chance to log in from another country (using their local wifi, not your own phone connection)?  Any difference?

[Van Buren Supernova]

Yes I believe I had, but for the most recent one I didn't try to log in. I had same problem as far as I remember, most of the time certain website is either accessible or not in different countries (as in, I don't think I have ever had a technical problem in one but not in another).

Anyway, sometimes the forum runs smoothly for me, other times it gets very unbearable that I have to throw my hands and give up to avoid being frustrated. When I'm able to, I try to draft my post somewhere but that is hardly ideal and also doesn't guarantee that it doesn't take me multiple logins just to post a reply. Sorry that I keep b*tching about this, I just want you guys to know it's not your nose that I can't be here as often or lose my mood to even come. Luckily it seems like isolated incident. (HOW UNFAIR! )

22 hours ago, Pseudonym said:

Yup that's her. 

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None of the above, she killed Alicia. She and Simon were finally happy together and then psycho girl slit her throat, which is what prompted Simon to go back in time to make her fall in love with him. Ahhh, I loved the reveal of future-Simon, when she follows him back to his lair. 

What was the second story? My mind has gone blank. Oh, was it the teddy?

Not teddy. Monkey. 

Ahh, Alicia. I forget her name, and all the female character's names apparently. How sexist. Although I like the relationship that you mentioned and imo, losing those two makes the series went downhill that I stopped watching, I never like Alicia, because at the beginning she was very manipulative, especially using her ability to con Curtis, and somehow her smirk is quite annoying.

 

Back to Black Mirror. did you watch National Anthem? I'm curious regarding how you feel about it, as I can imagine it's not something that can attract American audience easily, and I wonder about the decision to put that very episode as the pilot instead of some more colorful or 'lighter' one. Somehow I  imagine more people would give up after that.

For me, I had watched the first two minutes of the episode probably 7 times (but it kept stopping so I never got further) until finally get my hand on Netflix while I was abroad. In that first two minutes, I didn't get to the demand yet, as well as I didn't get the appeal, but since I had convinced myself that I would love this series I kept trying to. And the direction it went was mind boggling that it took me a long time to decide whether I like that episode, but it certainly gets me really curious to continue watching and amazed of how many interpretation and meaning that I could pick, from something that seems simple. Since the other episodes in first season are arguably very different with the pilot, I have to praise the risk that the showmakers were willing to take. That is really not everyone cup of tea.

But I had come to appreciate British style and show much more, I think it fits better to my taste, I can't help to wonder if the pilot is also considered brave and unusual there.

 

 

[Pseudonym]

Ah yea, monkey!

i didn’t watch that one.

[Van Buren Supernova]

So much for me blabbering about it!  (and put everyone else to sleep)

[Pseudonym]

I know the basics of it, I remember it being quite a big thing when it came out. 

[Carol the Dabbler]

3 hours ago, Van Buren Supernova said:

... sometimes the forum runs smoothly for me, other times it gets very unbearable that I have to throw my hands and give up to avoid being frustrated. When I'm able to, I try to draft my post somewhere but that is hardly ideal and also doesn't guarantee that it doesn't take me multiple logins just to post a reply.

VBS, could you send a PM to Tim (Undead Medic) describing the problems you're having?  If anyone can help, it'd be him.  We miss your more frequent presence around here!

[Van Buren Supernova]

Good idea Carol, I see if I can write to him later. Magically, this time the forum doesn't give me trouble and let me stay :).

(Update: log in three different times today and didn't experience any problems. Maybe my nose is getting more acceptable!) Or does it know that I'm going to snitch??

As TV Show, I'm following the new season of Westworld, and liking it so far, eventhough I feel indifferent with the characters, which is less tiring way to enjoy a show actually (by not obsessing with the character like certain curly one). Haven't caught the latest episode, the latest one that I watched 'Kiksuya' was a very good episode.

As for Homeland, I was impressed with the first two seasons, but into season 5, I kind of lost my interest and couldn't even remember where I left it. I think they made greatest mistake that sort of make the show lost its mojo.

[T.o.b.y]

I can't really enjoy a series or movie if I can't bring myself to care about at least a few characters. But I agree that it's less tiring. 

[Carol the Dabbler]

Is the current Westworld based on the Yul Brynner movie?  I never saw that, but apparently there was an elaborate theme park, almost a real-life experience.

[J.P.]

I think it might have been inspired by the old movie, but I haven't seen, or don't remember it.

[Carol the Dabbler]

You're correct.  According to Wikipedia:

Westworld is an American science fiction western television series created by Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy. Produced by HBO, it is based on the 1973 film of the same name (written and directed by Michael Crichton) and to a lesser extent its 1976 sequel, Futureworld. The story takes place in Westworld, a fictional, technologically advanced Wild-West-themed amusement park populated by android "hosts". The park caters to high-paying "guests" who may indulge their wildest fantasies within the park without fear of retaliation from the hosts, who are prevented by their programming from harming humans

[J.P.]

Thanks for confirming.

Other series: I'm watching Elementary now and then and it makes me wonder about the striking little similarities jumping at me all the time. Like the very complicated relationship between Sherlock and Mycroft, or that Mycroft was, at least at times, an MI6 agent. Then there was a dead guy called West, and a women named Kitty, whose "records were only five years old". Are those elements taken from the canon?

[Carol the Dabbler]

I'm reasonably certain that West is the name used in either The Naval Treaty or The Bruce-Partington Plans -- hang on -- yup, it's TBPP, wherein (as Wikipedia puts it), "It seems clear that Cadogan West fell from a train and that he stole the plans, meaning to sell them, but the mystery is truly complex."

And it seems quite believable that canon Mycroft was some sort of government agent, though there was never any mention of anything specific.  Likewise a complicated relationship with his brother was certainly plausible.  But he didn't get much "screen time* in canon, so who knows?

Don't recall any Kitty, but I'm scarcely an expert on the canon.

All in all, I suspect the similarities derive more from earlier adaptations than from Sherlock as such.  The only blatant plagiarism I noticed during the two seasons that I watched Elementary was one episode that made a theme of "I believe in Sherlock Holmes" -- and even that was cribbed not from Sherlock per se, but rather from John's online blog and from fan usage.

[T.o.b.y]

1 hour ago, J.P. said:

Thanks for confirming.

Other series: I'm watching Elementary now and then and it makes me wonder about the striking little similarities jumping at me all the time. Like the very complicated relationship between Sherlock and Mycroft, or that Mycroft was, at least at times, an MI6 agent. Then there was a dead guy called West, and a women named Kitty, whose "records were only five years old". Are those elements taken from the canon?

Not that I know of, no. Except for the West connection that Carol just mentioned. 

[Pseudonym]

Pretty sure there is a character called Kitty Riley in the books, but I think she might be one of Sherlock's homeless contacts? Maybe?

I hate Mycroft in Elementary, the way he's just haplessly manoeuvred about by MI6 - I was hoping when it was revealed he was working with them it would turn out he was in charge and that the whole restauranteur thing was merely a cover, but I got the impression he was just a pawn. 

I liked the first couple of seasons of Elementary but then I felt it went downhill and I lost interest. 

[Carol the Dabbler]

15 minutes ago, Pseudonym said:

I liked the first couple of seasons of Elementary but then I felt it went downhill and I lost interest. 

Me too.  I loved their meticulous clockwork plots.  But then they seemed to dispense with those, in favor of one Big Reveal after another.  Kinda like another show, come to think of it....

[Arcadia]

4 hours ago, J.P. said:

Thanks for confirming.

Other series: I'm watching Elementary now and then and it makes me wonder about the striking little similarities jumping at me all the time. Like the very complicated relationship between Sherlock and Mycroft, or that Mycroft was, at least at times, an MI6 agent. Then there was a dead guy called West, and a women named Kitty, whose "records were only five years old". Are those elements taken from the canon?

There was a Kitty Winter (not Riley) in canon. In, uh … oh crud, I've forgotten. *performs google-fu*  Aha. The Illustrious Client. Oh, and lookee, the Kitty in Elementary, her last name was Winter! Ta da!

[Pseudonym]

Ah ha!

[Pseudonym]

Just saw a teaser that Luther is coming back for a new season.

[Pseudonym]

I've gotten weirdly hooked on Queer Eye (the original was called Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, this is the Netflix remake). When I first tried watching it I couldn't handle how OTT the opening sequence is, particularly how VERY camp the hairdresser is in it, but now I'm weirdly hooked. The hairdresser is uber-camp, but I find him strangely adorable.  

[T.o.b.y]

Camp doesn't have to be bad. It all depends on how it's done. If the acting is good and the writing not abysmal, I usually don't mind. 

[Pseudonym]

No, no, it's not a drama it's a 'reality tv' makeover show and he's one of the experts (hair and grooming). I'm sure they all play up a bit but he's not a character per se.