Last Vow - Unofficial News (beware, spoilers ahead!)

[Karie]

I was trying to figure out the most appropriate thread to put this in, since we don't have an actual spoiler-discussion thread. Mods, please relocate this if it should go somewhere else. 

 

Someone on tumblr posted a picture of a magazine article about His Last Vow. Some very spoilery information included! Read at your own risk!!! 

 

http://iamboredletsshootthewall.tumblr.com/

 

 

ETA: Ok, be careful, because when I hover over that link it automatically pulls up the picture. I'm not sure if it will do this to you guys, or if it's because of one of the 20 apps I've downloaded to Chrome in the last hour.  If this is happening to everyone, I will try to modify the link...? 

 

ETA2: OK I modified it just to be safe. If you want to go to the link just c/p it and reconnect the .jpg at the end. 

 

ETA3: Well WTF that didn't work. Mods?? 

 

OK, forget it, I just took it out and replaced it with a link to the person who originally posted it.  Go there and scroll down a bit until you see the magazine article picture. 

 

Internet, why you such hard work? 

[Karie]

Thank you for the relocate, Caya! You guys are amazing!  

[Ruthyone]

The Real Spoiler.........
 
.....while   is in drug den,   comes and helps him with his own band of heroes known as 'Watson's Warriors' ....the band include:     and . Together, with special tea made by , they capture the evil David Cam and his henchmen, Cyclops Clegg and Oddball Osborne, fight  a   and end up in an spacecraft.

[T.o.b.y]

Karie, is this a real "news" article or a clever fan joke?

[Karie]

Seems legitimate to me, T.o.b.y. Given what you posted in TSoT thread about canon, I'm choosing to believe it. 

 

I think the article is a little misleading... I don't think Sherlock will actually use drugs, but, like canon, it will be a trick while he's undercover, and John is in the dark. I bet this will go along with the homeless-Sherlock photos we got months ago. 

[T.o.b.y]

So... you're saying for once I might have guessed right? That would be cool! We shall see when it airs, won't we...

[bborchar]

Seems legitimate to me, T.o.b.y. Given what you posted in TSoT thread about canon, I'm choosing to believe it. 

 

I think the article is a little misleading... I don't think Sherlock will actually use drugs, but, like canon, it will be a trick while he's undercover, and John is in the dark. I bet this will go along with the homeless-Sherlock photos we got months ago. 

 

That was my thought, too.  He might use them for show, but not because he's really that depressed.

[julia5]

In the show, Sherlock was never a drug addict, was he?  He just used to smoke....kind of makes me question the rest of the article.

[T.o.b.y]

In the show, Sherlock was never a drug addict, was he?  He just used to smoke....kind of makes me question the rest of the article.

 

Oh no, there have been hints that he used to do more than smoke. But he seems to have stopped completely and it's never said what exactly he used or how frequently.

 

[T.o.b.y]

Hmmm... "another shocking revelation about his personal life". Well! There's that fake engagement in "Charles Augustus Milverton": Holmes becomes engaged to a girl in Milverton's household under an alias and uses her to get access to Milverton's house - with the full intention of ditching her when he doesn't need her any more (he justifies this with there being a rival ready to jump in anyway).

 

I've always thought I'd love to see a version of that on "Sherlock"! But I doubt it...

[Karie]

 

Seems legitimate to me, T.o.b.y. Given what you posted in TSoT thread about canon, I'm choosing to believe it. 

 

I think the article is a little misleading... I don't think Sherlock will actually use drugs, but, like canon, it will be a trick while he's undercover, and John is in the dark. I bet this will go along with the homeless-Sherlock photos we got months ago. 

 

That was my thought, too.  He might use them for show, but not because he's really that depressed.

 

 

I'm hoping he's not really taking them at all, and is only pretending to for his act.  A recovering addict doesn't need to be taking drugs for any reason, unless he wants to go down a slippery slope. 

 

 

 

In the show, Sherlock was never a drug addict, was he?  He just used to smoke....kind of makes me question the rest of the article.

 

In the pilot, Lestrade organizes a fake drugs bust at Baker Street to bully Sherlock into helping him. The conversation between them in that scene pretty heavily implies that Sherlock used to be a heavy drugs user. And Sherlock's responses in that scene suggest that he is still keeping drugs in the house. He insists that he is clean, but gets twitchy and avoidy when Lestrade says,"But is your flat?" 

 

The unaired pilot (which can't be counted on for canon, but at least you know it was at some point the way the writers intended to go) had the cabbie ask Sherlock if he did a lot of drugs, to which Sherlock replied,"Not lately." The cabbie made the point that he had drugged Sherlock, and it was taking him a while to pass out so he must have a high tolerance.  

 

In Scandal in Belgravia, Mycroft was so worried that Sherlock might have a relapse after the death of Irene Adler that he had John and Mrs. Hudson search the flat for his hidden stash and stay with him all night to keep him from slipping, since it was a "danger night".  This suggests to me that Mycroft has dealt with Sherlock's drug abuse in the past and probably played a part in helping him get clean. And when Sherlock comes home, he immediately notices that the flat has been searched. He says to John,"I hope you didn't mess up my sock index this time", which suggests that John has searched his things before... for drugs or just cigarettes, I don't know. But I don't know if John would have bothered digging through the house for cigarettes. 

 

 

Hmmm... "another shocking revelation about his personal life". Well! There's that fake engagement in "Charles Augustus Milverton": Holmes becomes engaged to a girl in Milverton's household under an alias and uses her to get access to Milverton's house - with the full intention of ditching her when he doesn't need her any more (he justifies this with there being a rival ready to jump in anyway).

 

I've always thought I'd love to see a version of that on "Sherlock"! But I doubt it...

 

 

Oh, Lord... the way the writers have seemingly been taking stuff straight from tumblr this season, I'm almost afraid to imagine what they might do with that.  

 

John finds out Sherlock has gotten engaged to, DUN DUN DUN, Anderson, because his uncle has a connection to CAM. 

[bborchar]

 

I'm hoping he's not really taking them at all, and is only pretending to for his act.  A recovering addict doesn't need to be taking drugs for any reason, unless he wants to go down a slippery slope. 

 

 

 

But is he REALLY a recovering addict?  He's a perpetual addict...but not for drugs.  He's addicted to 'not being bored'.  Drugs are only one solution to that problem, and not even his preferred one.  If he has something interesting, he doesn't think twice about cigarettes.  He only goes for the cigarettes when he's bored.  He doesn't reach for drugs to forget his problems...only to occupy the time until something more interesting comes along.  I don't think he's a recovering drug addict at all.  He's simply addicted to action.

[Karie]

 

 

I'm hoping he's not really taking them at all, and is only pretending to for his act.  A recovering addict doesn't need to be taking drugs for any reason, unless he wants to go down a slippery slope. 

 

 

 

But is he REALLY a recovering addict?  He's a perpetual addict...but not for drugs.  He's addicted to 'not being bored'.  Drugs are only one solution to that problem, and not even his preferred one.  If he has something interesting, he doesn't think twice about cigarettes.  He only goes for the cigarettes when he's bored.  He doesn't reach for drugs to forget his problems...only to occupy the time until something more interesting comes along.  I don't think he's a recovering drug addict at all.  He's simply addicted to action.

 

 

But, as his experience with alcohol in TSoT proved, Sherlock's body is just as susceptible to substance as anyone else's. Just because he's intelligent and bored and just because he may say he only reaches for drugs when he's looking to pass the time, doesn't mean he couldn't still have become a junkie.  I know a lot of casual marijuana users.  I don't know ANY casual heroine or cocaine users. But I do know a lot of naive people who wanted to "experiment" with these types of drugs and ended up becoming addicts.  Sherlock likes to pretend it's always mind over matter with him, but that's not the case when it comes to substance abuse, particularly the more hardcore stuff.  And I doubt Lestrade would have really had him worried in the pilot, if he were only in danger of finding a bag of weed in Sherlock's sock drawer.  Not unless the laws over there are a lot different than they are here.  

 

As for the reasons behind his initial foray into drug abuse... it's very possible that he started because of boredom. We don't know for sure, because it was never stated. It's equally possible that it was because of loneliness and isolation. Mycroft's fear that he would fall off the wagon due to grief suggests that emotional factors were at some point contributions to his drug use. I don't think Mycroft would be so worried about a "danger night" if Sherlock had only ever turned to drugs in boredom.  

[bborchar]

 

 

 

I'm hoping he's not really taking them at all, and is only pretending to for his act.  A recovering addict doesn't need to be taking drugs for any reason, unless he wants to go down a slippery slope. 

 

 

 

But is he REALLY a recovering addict?  He's a perpetual addict...but not for drugs.  He's addicted to 'not being bored'.  Drugs are only one solution to that problem, and not even his preferred one.  If he has something interesting, he doesn't think twice about cigarettes.  He only goes for the cigarettes when he's bored.  He doesn't reach for drugs to forget his problems...only to occupy the time until something more interesting comes along.  I don't think he's a recovering drug addict at all.  He's simply addicted to action.

 

 

But, as his experience with alcohol in TSoT proved, Sherlock's body is just as susceptible to substance as anyone else's. Just because he's intelligent and bored and just because he may say he only reaches for drugs when he's looking to pass the time, doesn't mean he couldn't still have become a junkie.  I know a lot of casual marijuana users.  I don't know ANY casual heroine or cocaine users. But I do know a lot of naive people who wanted to "experiment" with these types of drugs and ended up becoming addicts.  Sherlock likes to pretend it's always mind over matter with him, but that's not the case when it comes to substance abuse, particularly the more hardcore stuff.  And I doubt Lestrade would have really had him worried in the pilot, if he were only in danger of finding a bag of weed in Sherlock's sock drawer.  Not unless the laws over there are a lot different than they are here.  

 

As for the reasons behind his initial foray into drug abuse... it's very possible that he started because of boredom. We don't know for sure, because it was never stated. It's equally possible that it was because of loneliness and isolation. Mycroft's fear that he would fall off the wagon due to grief suggests that emotional factors were at some point contributions to his drug use. I don't think Mycroft would be so worried about a "danger night" if Sherlock had only ever turned to drugs in boredom.  

 

 

Oh, I never said he wasn't susceptible to it.  But there just hasn't been any indication at all that he's a recovering drug addict.  If anything, the scene with him getting drunk actually shows that his tolerance ISN'T very high, suggesting that he's not actually used to substance abuse.  He can't 'fall off of a wagon' that he's never been on.  I'm sure he's tried every drug under the sun, but that doesn't mean he abused them.  Cigarettes?  Yeah, he's addicted to them...but only when he has nothing better to do.

[T.o.b.y]

In a realistic world, Karie, of course you would be right. I don't think there's any really "casual" use of cocaine or opiates or other "heavy" drugs and Sherlock would be a real (recovered) addict. But as this is Sherlock Holmes, he does probably limit his use of drugs to "protest against the mundanity of existence" (that's not an exact Doyle quote, but he says something like that in defense of his "indiscretions" as he calls them). Of course, that could go out of hand. Even in the original, where Holmes was a lot stronger as a person, Watson thinks of his cocaine as a "sleeping fiend" and wants him to stop altogether.

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

And Holmes distilled his cocaine solution down to a seven percent which one on line expert commented on as not being strong at all....but then Holmes was, at one point, dosing himself three times a day. It all adds up to being a "bit not good" over time.

[Earendil]

 

http://iamboredletsshootthewall.tumblr.com/

 

 

OK, forget it, I just took it out and replaced it with a link to the person who originally posted it.  Go there and scroll down a bit until you see the magazine article picture. 

 

Now it's on page five already, so I put it up here for easier access.

[Karie]

Oh, brilliant, thanks Earendil! 

[Karie]

Some tweets have come up, I presume from those who saw a screening of HLV today:

 

http://constancecream.tumblr.com/post/72688399271

 

http://cumblrlocked.tumblr.com/post/72686826097/prepare-x-x

 

 

http://escabell.tumblr.com/post/72687612479/oh-loo-she-knows-us-so-well

 

 

Not so much spoilery as hint-y and praising. Still, hover with caution if you've somehow accidentally tripped and fallen into this thread marked SPOILERS and don't want to see anything. 

 

Oh, and FYI, if you don't know, @CHIMPSINSOCKS is Amanda Abbington's (aka Mary Morstan) Twitter handle. 

[Karie]

And here is another write up by someone who attended the screening: 

 

 

I’m currently sitting in the BAFTA Q&A. My hands haven’t stopped shaking.  This episode is thrilling.  It’s so clever.  My jaw actually dropped at least four times.  I gaped at the screen.  Holy F***ing shit.

This episode is dark.  It’s thrilling.  Your heart will race and it will keep surprising you. I felt like I was having a heart attack the entire time.  I’ve never been so glued to an episode.  I swear. 

There’s so much I’m not allowed to say,  but I’ll try to tease without being thrown in the BBC basement.

- Wiggins
- Marijuana
- Pressure points
- Redbeard
- Molly is so important. So F***ing important. 
- Lick your face.
- Mike
- I don’t understand. 
- I still don’t understand.
- “He can snap you in half and right now. I’m afraid he might.”
- It’s a dummy. 
- “It doesn’t mean I’m not happy to see you.”
- Clever clever Mary.
- Pent up aggression,  much? BAMF John.
- Look into Holmesian past.
- Pet names.
- SO MUCH CANON

I now have wine.  I can’t stop smiling.  I think my hands have stopped shaking.  I think. 

 

 

[sherlockandjohn]

"The best episode of Sherlock". Seriously? I feel pretty overwhelmed by the last two, and now they want to throw more incredible drama at us.

I was looking forward to a nice, quiet, uneventful - nah

[Karie]

The fact that Redbeard apparently comes into play again makes me think that was more than just a childhood pet Mycroft was reminding Sherlock of to caution him against getting too close. I think maybe it was a code word, or meant to trigger some memory in Sherlock in order to lead him to some information that Mycroft wants to tell him, but is unable to come out and say. 

 

"Molly is so important." What are they doing now? If she's the "most important person" in another pivotal Holmes plot, it's going to feel a little like TRF all over again. I wonder what's going on? 

 

 

[Karie]

Radio Times review of His Last Vow:

 

 

"Fans of The Killing and Borgen will find His Last Vow, the final helping of the brief Sherlock feast, even more piquant, as it comes with a dash of Dane - Lars Mikkelsen stars as an icy, blackmailing media mogul. Here he’s the sweaty-palmed creep Charles Augustus Magnussen (based on Charles Augustus Milverton from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s story The Adventure of Charles Augustus Milverton), a streak of poison who guards an enormous vault packed with dirty secrets of the rich and famous.

Sherlock and Dr Watson (Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman) fall into his dark orbit after Sherlock is called in to help a politician escape from the blackmailing Magnussen’s slimy clutches (Mikkelsen plays him as Hannibal Lecter, but without the taste for human flesh, fava beans and a good chianti).

It’s a grand, filmic episode from scriptwriter/ co-creator Steven Moffat that ping-pongs between sadness and surprises. By the end you’ll probably be torn between sniffling and cheering.”

 

[Karie]

An ending that will leave you "torn between sniffling and cheering" makes me think it won't be quite as devastating as people are imagining. *Fingers crossed* 

[Sherson]

I cannot express how much I am actually looking forward to this episode! Although I am in utter awe of Moffat and gatiss for writing this series! I have greatly missed what I liked to call the "Sherlock Element" By the sounds of the some what Spoliery comments, this episode is going to tick everyone of my boxes!

 

I was wondering weather or not that would actually include sherlocks drug taking within the bbc episodes and almost gave up all hope! But im hoping the wait will be over sunday!

 

Forgive me sherlok fans but what is this "Cannon" everyone is talking about? would anyone kindly explain this to me?