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In the shower? Like, a dream? What would be a dream? HLV? Season 3? The whole series? Imagine if season 5 would end with Moriarty getting killed, and then John wakes up, and then meets Ella but not Mike! And we have this conversation:

 

ELLA: 'How's your blog going?'

'Hmm, fine. Good. Very good.'
'Written much?'
'Not a word.'
'John, it's going to take you a while to adjust to civilian life.'
'Sure.'
'And it will help so much to write about everything that's happening to you.'
'Nothing happens to me. I did have a nice dream though, about kidnapping and people being murdered, and a man who could see if your sister was addicted by alcohol solemnly by looking at your phone *sighs happily* ' 

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In the shower? Like a dream? What would be a dream? HLV? Season 3? The whole series? Imagine if season 5 would end with Moriarty getting killed, and then John wakes up, and then we would have the same thing happening as in SIP. Except John just meets Ella, his therapist and not Mike. And the episode would end with the conversation John had with Ella and this would be the last words 'nothing happens to me... I did have a nice dream though, about kidnapping and people being murdered and a man who could see if your sister was addicted by alcohol solemnly by looking at your phone *sighs happily* roll credits

 

Holy mother of all plot twists.  LOL

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In the shower? Like a dream? What would be a dream? HLV? Season 3? The whole series? Imagine if season 5 would end with Moriarty getting killed, and then John wakes up, and then we would have the same thing happening as in SIP. Except John just meets Ella, his therapist and not Mike. And the episode would end with the conversation John had with Ella and this would be the last words 'nothing happens to me... I did have a nice dream though, about kidnapping and people being murdered and a man who could see if your sister was addicted by alcohol solemnly by looking at your phone *sighs happily* roll credits

 

Holy mother of all plot twists.  LOL

 

 

Agreed, that would be an epic plot twist and an interesting way to end the series.  And with :moftiss: at the helm, after the credits there would be something with Shelock being his quintessential Sherlock self that would throw another twist into making us wonder if what we just saw with john was actually true or not.

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Just don't have it end with them all waking up in the shower! ;)

Dear Carol, surely not all together in the shower! Then we would be back to square one of their increasingly intertwined relationship, and the whole AoO world would give themselves figurative high-fives, from the fluffiest to the kinkiest storyteller in the genre Sherlock TV! :evilinside:
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In the shower? Like a dream? What would be a dream? HLV? Season 3? The whole series? Imagine if season 5 would end with Moriarty getting killed, and then John wakes up, and then we would have the same thing happening as in SIP. Except John just meets Ella, his therapist and not Mike. And the episode would end with the conversation John had with Ella and this would be the last words 'nothing happens to me... I did have a nice dream though, about kidnapping and people being murdered and a man who could see if your sister was addicted by alcohol solemnly by looking at your phone *sighs happily* roll credits

 

That's actually quite brilliant! Make an entire audience lose their minds all at once!

 

Welcome to the forum, by they way, I don't think we've met. I'm the crazy one. No, no, the other crazy one. :D

 

 

Just don't have it end with them all waking up in the shower! ;)

Dear Carol, surely not all together in the shower!

 

 

:rofl: That's exactly what I was going to say! :D

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That's actually quite brilliant! Make an entire audience lose their minds all at once!

 

Welcome to the forum, by they way, I don't think we've met. I'm the crazy one. No, no, the other crazy one. :D

Thanks, I think people would be angry though. If that would be the end of the show

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If they were going to end the show, though, then making the audience angry because of the plot would be a good ploy, because then we'd be glad it was over.  Otherwise we would be, as you say, angry because the show had ended, and would be forever hounding them for more episodes.

 

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Something tells me that would never work....

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Dear Arcadia,

WHICH other crazy one are you, as a point of interest? Because I would definitely not lay claims to sanity when it comes to Sherlock Holmes, ACD, films, the Granada series and the modern version :rofl:

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Dear Arcadia,

WHICH other crazy one are you, as a point of interest? Because I would definitely not lay claims to sanity when it comes to Sherlock Holmes, ACD, films, the Granada series and the modern version :rofl:

 

I'm that one over there. :D

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Perhaps I am the OTHER crazy one, I committed an unpardonable pedagogical sin because of Sherlock, my confession is in the thread about obsession. But to have them end up all together in the same shower is too funny and too scary at once!

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Unless Magnussen is in the shower with them, then it would only be scary!

(See what I did there? (JP's dancing emotie here.)

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OMG... you all are giving me flashbacks to the rage I felt after watching the finale of Lost.  "It was all about the relationships."  *sittything throws things at her tv*

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OMG... you all are giving me flashbacks to the rage I felt after watching the finale of Lost.  "It was all about the relationships."  *sittything throws things at her tv*

 

Didn't that end with a person's eye(s) opening up and it was basically a dream/flashback of some sort (never watched the show but heard about how it ended)?

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OMG... you all are giving me flashbacks to the rage I felt after watching the finale of Lost.  "It was all about the relationships."  *sittything throws things at her tv*

 

Didn't that end with a person's eye(s) opening up and it was basically a dream/flashback of some sort (never watched the show but heard about how it ended)?

 

 

It ended like garbage.   ;)

 

I'm going to spoiler this in case any poor, unfortunate soul feels like torturing themselves for numerous seasons:

 

 

They basically spent SEASONS building up this complicated mytharc and the writers kept swearing up and down that everything would be answered. Then in the end they didn't answer a lot of questions, tried to pass off some crap "it was all about the relationships," and it's up in the air depending on who you talk to whether or not everyone was dead the whole time. Some people are convinced they were dead the whole time; others are convinced they were alive through like season 6 and then afterwards they were all in some sort of purgatory where they each created their own "reality" in purgatory based on their personal unresolved issues.

 

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Okaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy. That is definitely an odd ending.  Glad I never got into the show as that may have bugged me to a degree. (I'm super easy going most of the time so it takes some doing to bug me over how something ends.)

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Good thing I don't watch to much TV shows. Small question: is the ending better or worse than 'how I met your mother' because I heard that it had a bad ending as well

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That I don't know.  I didn't stick with HIMYM until the end.  I got bored with it a few seasons before it ended and stopped watching (and I normally stick shows out until the bitter end).  But from what I've heard of HIMYM, it would have annoyed me, but at least I hadn't expended a bunch of mental energy into piecing together a convoluted mythology and trying to make sense of it.  That's where Lost "lost" me.  lol

 

I will say, I have Lost to thank for bringing me back to X-Files.  I was upset over how X-Files had ended back in the day and the direction it took the last two seasons.  But after watching Lost, I was like OMG... it (X-Files) could have been so much worse!!!   So while the last two seasons of X-Files were a bit all over the place and not great (the mytharc got away from the writers among other issues), at least Chris Carter never drug me through 9 seasons of mytharc only to go "Heh, Mulder and Scully were dead all along after being abducted by aliens in the Pilot."  So, it's all relative for me.  

 

That being said, I'm pretty sure I can handle whatever Moftiss throws at me as long as they never nullify the importance of most of the episodes with some dream/dead thing.

 

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OMG... you all are giving me flashbacks to the rage I felt after watching the finale of Lost.  "It was all about the relationships."  *sittything throws things at her tv*

 

Didn't that end with a person's eye(s) opening up and it was basically a dream/flashback of some sort (never watched the show but heard about how it ended)?

 

I thought that was Dallas. :-) That's what Carol's shower reference was to, for those who are too young to know. If you really want to know, just ask....

 

That I don't know.  I didn't stick with HIMYM until the end.  I got bored with it a few seasons before it ended and stopped watching (and I normally stick shows out until the bitter end).  But from what I've heard of HIMYM, it would have annoyed me, but at least I hadn't expended a bunch of mental energy into piecing together a convoluted mythology and trying to make sense of it.  That's where Lost "lost" me.  lol

 

Same here and me too. I tried to stick it out with Lost, I really did, because the first season was SO brilliant and because they had such a great cast. But I started missing episodes and not even caring ... and the ending, ughghghhhhh.... what a waste.

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OMG... you all are giving me flashbacks to the rage I felt after watching the finale of Lost.  "It was all about the relationships."  *sittything throws things at her tv*

 

Didn't that end with a person's eye(s) opening up and it was basically a dream/flashback of some sort (never watched the show but heard about how it ended)?

 

I thought that was Dallas. :-) That's what Carol's shower reference was to, for those who are too young to know. If you really want to know, just ask....

 

I don't remember how Dallas (part 1) ended.  I used to watch that show as a kid because Grandma watched that show every Friday night and every Friday night was when we visited my dad's parents. I remember watching the re-run of JR getting shot (as I was an infant [or not quite born yet] when it originally aired).  I watched 1 episode of Dallas (part 2) and decided the reboot set 20 years later was even less clean than the original.  I like how they decided not to do a recast and set back to when the original was on, but went with the kids will now be adults and what would the story look like with everyone being older.  I also like how they tried to get as many of the original actors as possible for the roles that were returning.

 

As much as I like the plot twist of John saying he had a wonderful dream as he's talking with his therapist (a la ASIP and a comment from yesterday or before where that was suggested), I can see not ending the show that way as it would probably throw the fandom into an uproar.  Now that would have been a crazy plot twist (that I wouldn't have wanted in a million years) for correcting HLV.

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And above all with CAM being back, (hopefully NOT in the shower,) Heaven knows what would ensue, based on the deleted scene in HLV! My mind has some dark corners, like the rest of humanity, but it cannot willingly dwell on some things!

Based on Aurelie's premise, both he and Moriarty would fight over ownership of Sherlock, to what extent I am not willing to dwell on, but it might be a case where both Irene and Janine would defend what each considered sovereign territory, though, while I can perfectly well visualise Mary holding on to John's arm and preventing him from coming to Sherlock's defence.

Nope, nope, nope, definitely not a happy ending in any universe!

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LOL... I just had a mental image of Irene and Janine duking it out.  That would be pretty funny.

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