Myers-Briggs personality types -- and quiz

[Shadow Dweller]

Massive brain-rewiring not advised, we introverts are just fine the way we are right now, nerding here together over the quirky fun story of a detective and his world.

 

[Van Buren Supernova]

Eh....

 

How do you guys approach honesty?

 

I admit knowing the nature of INTJ, I sometimes use it as excuse to explain my 'less desirable' behavior, or at least feel-better-not-to-feel-guilty about it. I don't mean to be rude, that is just me at the same time feeling good that this not so random quiz understands me, also kick my instinct for justification that I don't need.

 

So, with three of my friends, as farewell that we were going apart, we had breakfast in this high-end nice villa that we stayed (we had complimentary!) but we paid for the meal.

 

The service was horrible, we were given wrong utensils to eat, it took us multiple efforts to get the right thing, they forgot our order, the meals were..bad. They were worse than ordinary restaurant or even cafetaria to be honest. It was disappointing for the price and expected quality.

 

We commented about that during our meal, it was very inconvinient as we spent our time trying to get the waiter's attention to get our utensils and order right and even approached the counter etc, and ended up having expensive sub-par meal.

 

At the end, the server approached us happily asking about our experience, and within seconds the three of them gave good testimonials about the meals. I was...whuatt.. but didn't say anything. It's fine if they were happy with the meals, but then, apparently they didn't, they just think it's nice thing to do. Okay, fine. I wasn't really bothered about it.

 

Then few days ago, I had my meal alone in this place I always patronize for convinience. I don't go out of way to seek for food, so I stick to a couple of places that have fast service, acceptable food and pricing. The food here is okay, good enough but the coffees are excellent, so I have become a 'loveable' loyal patron. They are friendly but not intrusive, this was a different day when the manager or something made casual talk with me and asking about their food. It was the first time I tried that menu.

 

She happily asked about my order and how I found it. Well, I didn't like it.

So I said it's 'different' with what I normally have (they cooked it in different style), yet, she still pursued my answer with happy face and I answered I didn't like it, in nice way, I think. She was still taken aback for a bit and looked disappointed.

 

I think some people like to bait-for-compliment because most of the time they get it. My ex-colleague used to do that by complaining that she looked ugly and fat and so on, and I kept quiet. Then I see other colleagues jumped to say something like no, you look good etc etc. (Ooohh that is the proper way)

 

and when a friend asked me

how do I look? How do I look?

Okay.

No, no, how do I look? Honestly! (Smile sweetly, cutely with glitter in their eyes full of expectations)

I said something about her thick horrifying make-up that looks similar to those who approaches people on the street XD.. well.. anyway, I know she can take the half joke so it's fine, but nevertheless she wants compliments, she just get the wrong person.

 

Those are small examples I had been much more brutal especially at work or when I am angry I don't spare any effort to polish it, but it's not personal. I maintain that.

 

So, is it honesty or white lies?

[Arcadia]

I think most people tell the "white lies" in situations like you described because it's the easiest (and most polite) way to avoid having a longer conversation. The one or two times I've complained about restaurant food, for example, I was prepared to engage in a dialog with the restaurant owner/manager. But usually I just want to get out without talking to anyone.

[Carol the Dabbler]

My motto is, don't ask the question if you don't want to hear the answer. (Not that I always follow my own advice, mind you.) In my opinion, it's the people who go fishing for compliments who are being rude, by putting the other person on the spot.

 

What I generally do in that situation is to say as many positive things as I truthfully can. Like "That's a lovely color" (though I wouldn't be caught dead in that style) or "That neckline looks really good on you" (but please don't ask about the sleeves).

[Arcadia]

In other words, you say something polite to avoid having an extended conversation on the subject. :p

[Carol the Dabbler]

Unfortunately, if the person wants an extended conversation on the subject, they're not likely to be satisfied with my little tidbit. Sometimes it works and sometimes they press for more. I'd hate to encourage them to repeat what I see as a mistake, though, so I focus on what I think they've done right. But if truly cornered, I will also (as gently as possible) explain what I think they might have done differently.

[T.o.b.y]

I try not to lie. But I also don't like saying things to people that I think they won't want to hear. So if you ask me a straight question, you'll get a truthful answer, but it may be worded so that you have to really want to know my true opinion to figure out what I meant.

 

I like to say positive things to people and they're always sincere. If I compliment you, you can be sure I really mean it. If I don't, I could either be thinking of something else altogether or I might really dislike your hairstyle, your clothes, your quality of work or your opinions. You'll never know until you ask - unless you're my husband, my parents or my best friend.

 

I really like blunt, straight-forward people, though. I don't even mind the Sherlock-level of bluntness. I think it's refreshing and admirable, in a way. Probably because it's something I am so bad at myself.

[Van Buren Supernova]

I need longer time to think of white lies so when I'm being pressed I just say what is on my mind without thinking.

 

Sadly, or normally, when some people receive less than compliment, it is taken as offence. And, even when they indeed receive compliments, they fish for more by denying it but continue to bait.

 

Aiz, just feed me what you want me to say if you don't like what I say.

[J.P.]

it's almost true. But still cannot decide between INTP and INTJ...

[Arcadia]

Depends ... where was the bomb when it went off? Your bedroom: INTP. That club where all the idiots hang out: INTJ. :d

[J.P.]

Now I'm screwed...

[Carol the Dabbler]

I disagree. Near as I can judge other people's reactions to me (an INTP), I'm actually a "People think I don't care, but I do" -- unless, of course, you're talking about current styles or anything else that I consider irrelevant.

[Arcadia]

Care about what? Things I care about, I really care about!

 

I do think I project a cooler exterior than I actually have ... maybe. I don't really know how people see me!

[J.P.]

Initially I thought that I care and others don't see it. Don't we all want to be good people?

But then, from some real life "cases" I realized that it's often the other way round. So more INTP than INTJ again.

 

As for caring - I mean the mycroftian idea of caring.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Maybe everybody thinks that they care but others don't see it. Maybe the real question is "Care about what?

[Arcadia]

The Mycroftian idea of caring ... sounds like a curse!

 

Seems like Mycroft's always talking against forming attachments, so that kind of caring, I definitely do ... and think Mycroft is a big poo-poo head for trying to "correct" his little bro's inclination to do likewise.

 

But if we're caring about some random stranger's stubbed big toe ... naw, I don't care much. Idiot should've worn sturdier shoes. :d

[Van Buren Supernova]

it's almost true. But still cannot decide between INTP and INTJ...

Why? What is your result on this test?

16 personalities

Or you are confuse because you can relate to both? (Look around) Well of course! INTJ and INTP are the best. I vote for ISTP too. Actually all I are good, I think....ESFP on the other hand... XD (there are 3 of those in my office and they drive me nuts, maybe because it's totally opposite. Everyone of them, even the one who is in much higher position and has potential to engineer my demise, has received a piece...eh..good chunk of my mind without polish).

 

Depends ... where was the bomb when it went off? Your bedroom: INTP. That club where all the idiots hang out: INTJ. :d

 

Maybe everybody thinks that they care but others don't see it. Maybe the real question is "Care about what?

Right.

I don't care about religion, title, wealth, style and status. But I care about my loved ones, animals and other stuffs.

 

I don't know how people see me too. Sometimes I don't care I just do something ordinary but receive overwhelming reactions and gratitudes I don't think I deserve. Sometimes I care but don't know how to express it well and the other party think I don't give a crap or even hate them.

[J.P.]

By the first test I took I was somewhere in the middle between P and J. The other tests show rather P.

 

Caring: I meant things that one actually should care about. Like at the first morning at work after my father died, my collegue assumed I must be emotionally upset (hugged me and asked if I need something), but I was absolutely fine. Things like that happened several times.

 

On the other hand I tend to stonewall when I care too much. And sometimes it doesn't take much to be too much for me.

[Shadow Dweller]

Try the cognitive functions test, J.P. That will show your, well, priority of functions. INTP & INTJ's are different from each other.

[Inge l-w]

Awesome! This time it came out as ESTJ-T,

59% Extroverted

59% Observant

69% Thinking

67% Judging

52% Turbulent!

Ladies and gentlemen of the forum, you have fair warning! Which is not very surprising, seeing that in other quizzes I came up so often as the loveable 'sociopath'. Comes in handy in real life, though, with teaching young adults! :D

[Shadow Dweller]

http://psychologyjunkie.com/2016/09/12/type-bullying-and-the-nt-girl-tips-for-parents-of-female-intjs-intps-entjs-entps/

 

This, especially the, " it’s not my job on this planet to wallow, to deeply sympathize, to get caught up into the emotional details. That’s someone else’s job. My job is to give you my very best logical solution so you can move forward in a positive light. And that’s a good thing." Being raised in a conservative family with authoritarian style (father ESTJ mother ESFJ younger sister ISTJ ) and not even a single NF nevermind NT around is hell.

[Arcadia]

What I get out of that is that I was extremely lucky to get the parents I had. Any pressure I had to conform came mostly from outside my family, not inside it. Whew!

[T.o.b.y]

What I get out of that is that I was extremely lucky to get the parents I had. Any pressure I had to conform came mostly from outside my family, not inside it. Whew!

 

Me too. I really cannot complain about my parents either, they were awesome, and I was far from an easy child to raise. I think my mother is an NT person. INTP is my guess, with P and J being almost equally strong, though. I think she found it a bit bewildering to have such a Feeling child. But she did her best... And my father "got" me on an emotional level, so it was all fine, really.

 

I never felt any pressure to "conform" from within my family either. Peers, yes, but screw them (imagine Mycroft's way of saying "other children" here).

[Van Buren Supernova]

I believe my parents don't have any knowledge of those whatsoever but they don't need to. I clashed with them occasionally but nothing is really damaging, just a few regrets from my side because sometimes I can't handle being told what to do or being told what not to do. I said hurtful things that eventhough I was being honest and right, I shouldn't ever treat them that way ever.

 

Anyway we are quite big family and struggled financially. We didn't have many toys so we invented our own games. We didn't have tutors so we siblings helped and taught each others. We have good immune systems because we were not raised 'by theories' due to lack of knowledge or resources. I started eating semi solid food when I was three months. :p

 

Their parenting style is not standard, can't be theorized, not 'ideal', maybe considered 'insufficient' but we turn out fine. We are free to choose our life path, religions, or not. I am thankful for all those because I believe it makes us better. They even give me coolest name, literally means ice XD , while most of my female friends have romantized or feminine names.

[Arcadia]

Yep, "ice" is cool, alright! ;)