111 Things You Might Not Know About Season 3

[Van Buren Supernova]

T.o.b.y, on 24 May 2015 - 5:46 PM, said:

 

Van Buren Supernova, on 24 May 2015 - 11:48 AM, said:

 

Other things I can add:

- Deleted scene when Magnussen visited Sherlock. Sherlock asked why he bothered to visit if he had no intention to negotiate. Magnusson answered,"You are Sherlock Holmes, you're famous. I'm interested. I've never had a detective before."

 

- Another deleted scene.

Bill Wiggins actually know who Sherlock was since the first day he came to the drug den. He always read the blog. :lol:

He also complained the lack of new entries to which Sherlock replied,"The band split up."

 

I knew about the first deleted scene, but not the second. Oh my god, I so wish they had left that line in. That is so sad and touching. Ouch. Just... ouch.

 

 

I stopped and took a bloody long breath after I read that one...

 

 

Arcadia, on 26 May 2015 - 10:15 AM, said:

 

 I don't know either but I'm enjoying the heck out of your analysis! :D

 

 

 

:blink: Where does one learn about these deleted scenes? First time I heard those. First one is CREEPY, the second one ...

 

 

Thank you..! It was a horrible analysis but no way I could explain it better..

 

The deleted scenes are from Sherlock Chronicles.

 

If it could make you feel better, Sherlock said that line in a casual way, quickly followed by his interest of how Billy came to his deduction. It doesn't make me feel better though..

[J.P.]

 

Bill Wiggins actually know who Sherlock was since the first day he came to the drug den. He always read the blog.

 

This explains Wiggins' words: "I further deduce..." I was wondering where he cought that phrase.

[Van Buren Supernova]

Yes, apparently it's not a very 'correct' term. 

That is one of the ways for me to identify Sherlock's fan.

[Arcadia]

 

The deleted scenes are from Sherlock Chronicles.

 

If it could make you feel better, Sherlock said that line in a casual way, quickly followed by his interest of how Billy came to his deduction. It doesn't make me feel better though..

 

 

Dang! I have got to remember to buy that thing! My mind is like a seive these days ...

 

No, I don't feel better either ......

[Van Buren Supernova]

Maybe something lighter and hopefully can cheer you up..

 

From TSoT, word for word.. Mycroft scene:

 

'He steps off the treadmill and wipes his face with a towel. Then, surreptitiously, he lifts his sweatshirt and pats his stomach, checking his waistline. He looks pleased.

Someone clears their throat. Mycroft looks round - a guilty thing surprised. ANTHEA is standing there, holding a manila file.‘

[Arcadia]

Oh man, I really wish they'd left that in! :D

[J.P.]

Oh, this would make him too human. :D

[Carol the Dabbler]

Oh come now, don't tell me Mycroft is human!

 

I had been wondering how much of that scene was scripted -- apparently even the belly pat.  Would have loved that interruption, though!

[Arcadia]

Like the belly pat didn't already make him human? :p

 

I wonder who put that in the script anyway? Moffat or whatsisname poking fun at Gatiss, or Gatiss poking fun at himself? Those boys do have their fun.

[Carol the Dabbler]

As I recall, that script was credited to Moffat, Gatiss, and Thompson -- so who knows?

 

[Arcadia]

Yeh, Thompson. Whatsisname!

[Carol the Dabbler]

Poor Steve -- playing third fiddle to Moftiss!

 

[T.o.b.y]

Poor Steve -- playing third fiddle to Moftiss!

 

Which is highly unfair, considering who wrote "The Reichenbach Fall". I like his characterization very, very much and I hope he will continue to do some of the writing.

 

[Carol the Dabbler]

For sure!  He's fortunate enough to be involved with a well-respected project, but unfortunate enough to be the least-known of the three writers, and therefore gets very little of the credit.

 

[sittything]

To be fair, Thompson did write TBB.   ;)

[Carol the Dabbler]

To be fair, Thompson did write TBB.   ;)

 

Dirty job, but somebody had to do it!

 

[sittything]

I'm actually just reading the list now... have Martin and Amanda worked together on other things?  I think it was brilliant to cast her as Mary, as I think their chemistry really shows and makes the relationship between John and Mary all the more realistic.

[Carol the Dabbler]

They met while filming, actually, though they had no scenes together in that production.  As far as I'm aware, they've never had such extensive on-screen interaction before, but they have worked together, yes.

 

They had some cute flirting scenes in The All Together (which I thought was really horrible except for Freeman's scenes).  They played mostly-ex spouses in a few episodes of The Robinsons.  I'll see if I can find either of those on YouTube.  And she played, I think, his ex-girlfriend in The Good Night, but they had no scenes together.

 

[sittything]

 

36. Intercutting between the scenes of Sherlock and Molly’s investigation and Watson’s surgery was designed “to sort of put the boys together even though they’re not really together, and to show the vacuum in between.”

 

This is interesting to me as I've seen a lot of discussion on Tumblr about these scenes comparing John/Mary to Sherlock/Molly... paralleling the "couples."  But clearly, per this, that was not their intent.

 

 

52. They wanted to film a scene of Mycroft and his parents actually watching Les Miserables, and the theatre was keen to cooperate, but the scheduling wouldn’t work.

 

OMG... I'm sooo sad about this not working out now.  This would have made my heart leap with joy... I can only imagine Mycroft's expression.

 

 

62. Mikkelsen's natural English accent has a Cockney flavour  to it (apparently learnt via watching Monty Python’s Flying Circus as a child) so they asked him to “Scandi it up a bit” for the role of Magnussen and sound more Danish.

 

I find this interesting as a Hannibal watcher because Mads has an odd accent I can't really pinpoint.  I assumed it was the Danish influence, but then I would assume his accent would be the same as his brother's.

 

 

87. Originally, the script for the scene in which Janine visits Sherlock in hospital had them making friends at the end and making a deal to get together if neither had found anyone else by the age of sixty. In that script, Sherlock told Janine to “keep the bee hives” at the cottage in Sussex she’s buying with her tabloid kiss-and-tell money (a reference to Doyle’s character’s literary retirement home), but it was cut because it was felt that it got Sherlock off the hook too easily for his awful behaviour to Janine

 

No, no, no, no, no.

 

 

97. Amanda Abbington didn’t know what Mary Morstan’s backstory was going to be when she was filming The Empty Hearse and His Last Vow. “Amanda certainly wasn’t imbuing it with ‘spirit of assassin’” says Freeman. "I’m playing it all very innocently. I would have played her differently, had I known her backstory”, says Abbington.

 

Did they intentionally not tell her so that she would play it innocently?  Lead the audience astray?

 

 

101. The line from Mycroft to Sherlock that “your loss would break my heart” was heavily debated, but left in on the understanding that Mycroft had been drugged by that point, explaining his emotional candour.

 

I reject this.   :P

[Carol the Dabbler]

OK, here's one scene from The Robinsons:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3XuIjb4KX-g

 

And here's the list of everything they've been in together.

 

[SherlockedCAMPer]

 

 

97. Amanda Abbington didn’t know what Mary Morstan’s backstory was going to be when she was filming The Empty Hearse and His Last Vow. “Amanda certainly wasn’t imbuing it with ‘spirit of assassin’” says Freeman. "I’m playing it all very innocently. I would have played her differently, had I known her backstory”, says Abbington.

Did they intentionally not tell her so that she would play it innocently? Lead the audience astray?

I think that was the case. She found out at the script read through for that episode.

[Van Buren Supernova]

 I'm divided whether I'm glad they deleted this.

 

The scene in the lab with Molly.

After she remarked,"Clean?!", she asked Sherlock what he wanted her to tell John and Mary.

Sherlock replied,"Whatever you feel you ought to tell them."

Molly : Oh, I see! You give me that big dark eyes, and the deep, deep voice, and I'm supposed to lie for you.

SLAP. SLAP. SLAP.

 

Poor Sherlock. But I cheered. :lol: 

P.S. Molly forgot to mention the cheekbone.

[sittything]

Me too, Van Buren.  I can never decide if I'm glad they took that out or if I wish they had left it in.

 

Though, it does confirm for me the feeling HLV gave me that I think we'll see a more easy-going friendship between Molly and Sherlock in Series 4.  Less of her swooning over him, and a more equitable frienship...  I hope.

[Arcadia]

... it does confirm for me the feeling HLV gave me that I think we'll see a more easy-going friendship between Molly and Sherlock in Series 4.  Less of her swooning over him, and a more equitable frienship...  I hope.

Yeah, same here. Although the suspicious side of me thinks they took it out so it will still be a big question: is she still swooning or not? :D Now whyever would I be suspicious of anything Moftiss does? Hmmm, let me see......

 

I sooo need to get this book.....

[Van Buren Supernova]

Me too, Van Buren.  I can never decide if I'm glad they took that out or if I wish they had left it in.

 

Though, it does confirm for me the feeling HLV gave me that I think we'll see a more easy-going friendship between Molly and Sherlock in Series 4.  Less of her swooning over him, and a more equitable frienship...  I hope.

Me too. I believe Molly is still swooning for him, but she understands him much more now and very much gets the idea that he is different and special, therefore it might not work between them. (Although most of us disagree). She gets more realistic.

While Sherlock, he respects her more and she is pretty much on his respect and admiration radar compared to SIP.

 

... it does confirm for me the feeling HLV gave me that I think we'll see a more easy-going friendship between Molly and Sherlock in Series 4.  Less of her swooning over him, and a more equitable frienship...  I hope.

Yeah, same here. Although the suspicious side of me thinks they took it out so it will still be a big question: is she still swooning or not? :D Now whyever would I be suspicious of anything Moftiss does? Hmmm, let me see......

 

I sooo need to get this book.....

 

Yesss.. go for it. Some of the things inside actually proves that Moftiss is not that unpredictable, that fans over analyse them. But it's more fun that way, isn't it?

 

I might be a bit naive here also. One thousand things go through my mind when it's mentioned in the book that series 4 word is 'Ghosts..' (Series 2 are Woman, Hound and Fall. Series 3 are Rat, Wedding and Vow).

It doesn't help that I'm picturing Mycroft's sinister face when Mark made that remark.