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I don't hate remakes on principle, but it does seem to me that they rarely live up to the original, so I rarely bother to see them,  As to why they rarely live up to the original, that's my own opinion, of course.  But if I really loved the original, then the remake (which will of course differ in some respects) is likely to disappoint me simply because it's different.

If I didn't like the original, I'm not likely to even see the remake.  This may explain why they don't often do remakes of duds -- people would expect the remake to be a dud as well, so it'd be tough getting anyone to see it.  Of course if it really was better, then word of mouth would eventually increase the audiences -- if it was still in the theaters by then -- but studios don't like to take risks.  Which I guess is why they do so many remakes of popular films.

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9 hours ago, T.o.b.y said:

I have a bit of a thing for remakes and adaptations because I find it interesting to see what is changed and why.

I feel that way too, but for me I think it depends on what is meant by “remake”.  I really like different takes on old stories.  “Ever After”, “Snow White and the Huntsman”, and the TV show “Once Upon a Time”, for example, were interesting to me in that way.  I would put “Maleficent” in that category, and maybe even the 2015 “Cinderella”.  Robin Hood and Sherlock Holmes have been adapted many times, but I wouldn’t call them all remakes of each other.

The problem with Disney remakes like “Beauty and the Beast”, “Aladdin”, and probably “The Lion King”, is that they’re not different takes on a traditional tale; the animated versions were that.  The remakes are “updated” versions of their own original take.  They follow the same route, with the same lines, but it’s only done halfway.  So it’s more of the same, and yet it’s not the same enough to feel like a faithful rendering.  They’re in this weird limbo between strange and familiar, which is just sort of unpleasant to watch, and usually disappointing.

Book adaptions can be guilty of the same thing, but at least there it makes more sense, because they have to cut and change things to fit the story into a certain timeframe.  But with movie remakes, they don’t need to do that as much, because the movie already exists.  They’re just “remaking” it.  So if they change something you were excited to see, there seems to be no sense to it, and you’re just kind of left wondering, “Why did they change that perfectly good scene?”  If they want to make an adaption, then they should just make an adaption and make it different.  If they want to do a remake, then it should be virtually the same.  Go one way or the other, don’t do a weird mesh of the two.

Anyway, I think I’ve ranted on this subject enough, lol.  Boo on remakes.

 

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Oh yeah, I was going to say something about Toy Story 4.  I haven’t seen it, and probably won’t unless I catch it on TV someday when I’m bored.  But I think they made a mistake by using the same characters.  Toy Story 3 really wrapped up the series nicely, and it shouldn’t have been added to.  It ruins what was a great, emotional ending.  If they really wanted to make another Toy Story, it should have featured an entirely new set of characters.

 

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Although Toy Story is the remake that's getting fabulous reviews. Wait … it's not a remake, is it? It's a sequel. Never mind. (But we have too many of those, too. Movies are turning into television.)

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That's OK -- a lot of television is turning into movies.  :P

 

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I wonder when they’ll finally stop (i.e. when people will be sick enough of it to stop paying).  In a hundred years is there gonna be “Toy Story 22”?  :P  

 

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On 7/18/2019 at 9:57 AM, Artemis said:

Oh yeah, I was going to say something about Toy Story 4.  I haven’t seen it, and probably won’t unless I catch it on TV someday when I’m bored.  But I think they made a mistake by using the same characters.  Toy Story 3 really wrapped up the series nicely, and it shouldn’t have been added to.  It ruins what was a great, emotional ending.  If they really wanted to make another Toy Story, it should have featured an entirely new set of characters.

 

I think that is exactly why you should watch it. 

I'm indifferent about the series, but remember them quite well, and 3 actually left me feel a bit unresolved. It's new cycle all over again, but then what? Although I admit I also thought it's alright as the closure of the series.

But 4 actually gives more answer and I'm glad they make it, although, as said, I'm not sure what message we are supposed to bring home. I enjoyed 4 much more than 2 and 3 and think it is compatible or better sequel.

I think it's a cruel cruel world for toys.

 

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I can't bring myself to watch Lion King. I don't have attachment or impressed much with the original, and my problem is the only character that I like is Scar, and he looks like old lion with skin problem in the trailer, it's way off his menacing look and too 'villains are ugly' cliche.

Actually watched Shaw and Hobbs instead, it's very cheesy, but they try hard, I don't mind it and as usual, I enjoyed the rock.

Quite enjoyed Asterix, it's my childhood favorite comic.

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3 hours ago, Van Buren Supernova said:

Quite enjoyed Asterix, it's my childhood favorite comic.

There's an Asterix movie?  Zowie, I see there have been a whole bunch!  Which one(s) are you referring to -- or if you mean all of them, do you have any special favorite(s)?

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I'm tempted to go see Shaw and Hobbs simply because it looks like silly fun. Awfully expensive silly fun, though.

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Funny article, and I basically agree.

In this case, I'm glad to see that the reboot is intended for a streaming service.  So, I would have to go seriously out of my way in order to see it.  Yay!

 

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Aiz, we don't need those remakes! Home alone is good as it is, don't ruin it.

As for Mulan, like other Disney remake, I really don't feel the desire to see it. And now there is a movement to boycott it because of the actess's remark regarding HK police.

On 8/9/2019 at 1:10 AM, Carol the Dabbler said:

There's an Asterix movie?  Zowie, I see there have been a whole bunch!  Which one(s) are you referring to -- or if you mean all of them, do you have any special favorite(s)?

Yes, the new one is called Asterix and The Secret of the Magic Potion. But I'm not sure that there are many other movies, I only know Twelve Tasks but I don't think I watched it.

The comics though, I have all of them except some newer one, and used to remember every single lines. But I read those in translated version, which I realized it's much more funnier than the one in English  (not sure if it's the original). That is why I haven't bought the last few comics, and of course they are costly as well. I obtained my collection back then by hunting the used books in bazaars, over many many years.

 

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I believe the original Asterix comics are in French, so anything else is a translation.  They're very funny in English, though, which is a real credit to the translator.

I looked up the movies on IMDb (or maybe Amazon) while writing my last post, and as I recall there were something like ten of them. 

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