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14 hours ago, Carol the Dabbler said:

 

You're apparently at least half right about that.  This is from Wikipedia:

Harry's surname "Hole" translates to "Hill" in English and is the name of a historic Norwegian town (Hole, Norway) with a heritage that goes back to the Viking Age. The name is derived from Old Norse Hólar, the plural form of hóll, meaning "round and isolated hill." The word is pronounced as two syllables, with stress on the first (HOO-leh). In The Bat, the Australian police call him "Harry Holy."

Critics link the personality of Harry Hole to those of the famous literary detectives such as Sherlock Holmes, Hercule Poirot, Jules Maigret, and Nero Wolfe. According to Jo Nesbo himself, the character is inspired by and a tribute to Michael Connelly's character Harry Bosch.

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Thanks for that interesting factoid.  The English-language cast pronounces it as it looks, but 'HOO-leh' would have added more authentic flavor.  I imagine that the great majority of English-speaking readers who have only read Jo Nesbo in translation have been calling his hero 'Hole' for years and would have been confused if he'd been addressed as Detective Inspector HOO-leh in the movie.

I haven't read any Jo Nesbo, though I have a few of his books languishing in my TBR pile, including Snowman, I think.  Nordic noir has just mushroomed as a genre since Steig Larsson scored such a hit with his series.  Before Lisbeth Salander, we had Kurt Wallander, who is another Scandi detective I am more familiar with onscreen, having watched all three of the television Wallanders do their take on the role.  I've got Henning Mankell's novels in a pile as well.  I don't know if it's a lost-in-translation thing or is an accurate reflection of the Scandinavian mindset, but I find Scandi prose for the most part extremely heavy and slow.  Very wordy, as it seems to be a custom to refer to their sprawling casts of characters by their full given and surnames each time, and as a group they seem to dive deep into incredibly detailed, mind-numbingly so, descriptions of various interiors of a house, the brand-name furnishings, the designer labels being worn by the characters or descriptions of restaurant decors and meals that go on for pages.  As a travelogue of Scandinavian design aesthetic, it is interesting, but it tends to take the air right out of a dramatic narrative *action* story.  So, despite the best of intentions, and having enjoyed many film adaptations of these works ('enjoyed' seems a bit wrong to use when the content can be very grisly), I've yet to slog though a lot of these Nordic noir bestsellers.  I would like to read Nesbo, to see if I can detect a difference in attitude between a Norwegian author and the Swedish ones  I have read more of.  Swedish authors seem to insert a lot of references to class--which suspects or colleagues hail from 'aristocratic' families, and how much money they have and what their standard of living is like.  The Swedes at any rate seem to really enjoy expensive things and can be positively rhapsodic about food.  

It is said that Norwegians & Danes think that Swedes are stuck up.  Swedes and Danes think that Norwegians are dumb, and Norwegians and Swedes think that Danes are frivolous.  I wonder if these stereotypes are reflected in their fiction.

 

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3 hours ago, Hikari said:

they seem to dive deep into incredibly detailed, mind-numbingly so, descriptions of various interiors of a house, the brand-name furnishings, the designer labels being worn by the characters or descriptions of restaurant decors and meals that go on for pages. 

Once in the misty past, I read the historical novel Quo Vadis, which had a similar effect on me.  A character would walk into a room, then apparently freeze in his tracks while the narrator described the contents and occupants of the room in some detail, before the character was allowed to walk any further or say even hello.  I've always assumed that was a Victorian thing (the book was written in the 1890s), and it may well be -- but upon looking up the book for that link back there, I noticed that it was written in Polish (therefore what I read was a translation).  So maybe it's a European thing?

Thank goodness Victorian quasi-European Arthur Conan Doyle didn't write that way!

 

 

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Maybe not right thread, but close enough!

With many sequels, remake, blablabla nowadays that we never ask for (Avatar 🙄, Ice AgeS, ShrekS, Ocean Eight is probably the worst star-studded movie I had ever seen),

do you guys actually have sequel or remake that you want to be made? Or TV movie adaptation?

One of my favorite Scifi is Moon, starring Sam Rockwell. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but the story is intriguing at its time and still, and I really want to know what happens next. I actually just found out there is a sequel! But from careful search (I don't want to be spoiled) there seems to be not many information about it. However, I have become weary that it would not live up to the original and taint it.

I also don't mind seeing a sequel to Truman Show, and not-exactly-welldone but I like it, The Island starring Scarlett Johansson and Ewan Macgregor, I want to know what happen. But it's a fine line between good sequel script and horrible cliche. 

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16 minutes ago, Van Buren Supernova said:

I also don't mind seeing a sequel to Truman Show

Me too!  They had just gotten to the good part, and the movie was over!   :P

There was serious talk of a third "Three Men and a ..." movie ("Three Men and a Bride"), but things have now dragged out for so long that I doubt it's ever gonna happen.  Too bad.

And there was a good bit of talk about a (movie) remake of "Christmas in Connecticut" with Jennifer Garner.  She was so funny in "Thirteen Going on Thirty" that I was really looking forward to that one as well.  But that was fourteen years ago, so I ain't holding my breath.

 

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It's not really a movie, but I'd like to have a season 2 of Good Omens.

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I've just seen wonder woman 1984 and I have issues with it: namely the way Steve Trevor came back, the slow paced beginning and the fact that Wonder Woman became a Mary Sue and suddenly gained the power of flight and making things invisible dispite using it ONCE for coffee cup for crying out loud. This video highlights some other issues I have with the movie: namely people being stupid and things being convenient, it has spoilers btw. Anyway, I give it a 4/10.

 

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On 3/2/2021 at 1:35 PM, Fantasy Lover said:

I've just seen wonder woman 1984 and I have issues with it: namely the way Steve Trevor came back, the slow paced beginning and the fact that Wonder Woman became a Mary Sue and suddenly gained the power of flight and making things invisible dispite using it ONCE for coffee cup for crying out loud. This video highlights some other issues I have with the movie: namely people being stupid and things being convenient, it has spoilers btw. Anyway, I give it a 4/10.

We haven't seen it yet -- I sure hope we like it better than you did!

Anyhow, thanks for not posting any major spoilers, and for warning us about spoilers in the video.

 

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I hope so too, I hope you will post your review here, I'm curious to know what you think about it. You're welcome btw, I know some people really hate spoilers because it ruins the experience for them because they what will happen. I don't hate spoilers, in fact, sometimes I'm glad they exist. Take A star is born for example, I was spoilered about 

 

Bradley's Cooper character committing suicide

and because of that I refuse to watch it because it's a huge trigger for me, the same goes to 13 reasons why and Prayers for Bobby.

 

Anyway I watched Coming 2 America, the reveal that 

 

Akeem has a illegemate son

is interesting but the way they reveal it is slightly problematic and LAME! Also once again, the ruler of Zamunda forgot he has the power to change the rules therefore causing the movie's conflict that could have been avoided. The fact that the majority of the original cast was able to reprise their roles was nice, also how is it possible that barely anyone aged? I swear almost everyone looks the same despite being 30+ years older, are POC are secretly vampires or do they just have great genes? I give it a 4/10 as well.

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On 2/4/2021 at 9:35 PM, Van Buren Supernova said:

I also don't mind seeing a sequel to Truman Show, and not-exactly-welldone but I like it, The Island starring Scarlett Johansson and Ewan Macgregor, I want to know what happen.

Ditto!  "The Truman Show" is one of my faves.

On 3/2/2021 at 12:35 PM, Fantasy Lover said:

the fact that Wonder Woman became a Mary Sue and suddenly gained the power of flight and making things invisible dispite using it ONCE for coffee cup for crying out loud.

That was one thing (of many) that bugged me about the latest "Star Wars" trilogy.  In universe, most Jedi train from toddlers to use the Force and fight with a saber.  But Rey could do both almost immediately with no practice?  Come on. 

 

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My local theater finally dropped its mask requirement for the vaccinated, so back to the theater I went!  I saw "A Quiet Place 2" on Wednesday afternoon and I was the only one in the showing.  It was great just to be at the theater again, I missed it.  It felt familiar but also a little strange.  It's been too long.

The movie was good.  If I had to choose I'd say I prefer the first one, but this was almost as good and I hope there will be a Part 3 to round it all out.

There are more and more new movies coming out so I'm excited to return.


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8 hours ago, Artemis said:

My local theater finally dropped its mask requirement for the vaccinated, so back to the theater I went!  I saw "A Quiet Place 2" on Wednesday afternoon and I was the only one in the showing.


I bet there have been a lot of people sitting alone in a movie theater over the past year -- wearing a mask!

Strange times.

 

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2 hours ago, Carol the Dabbler said:


I bet there have been a lot of people sitting alone in a movie theater over the past year -- wearing a mask!

Strange times.

Probably, in other places.  Not so much here; they were completely closed down for a long time.

 

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8 hours ago, Artemis said:

they were completely closed down for a long time.


Our movie theaters were also closed down a good bit of this past year -- but then they'd be open, then closed again.  It's a wonder they're still in business.

 

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8 hours ago, Carol the Dabbler said:

It's a wonder they're still in business.

I’m a little concerned for them myself.  I hope they will make it through this, I’d hate to lose them.

 

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4 hours ago, Artemis said:

I hope they will make it through this, I’d hate to lose them.

Me too.  Though in my case it's currently more of a "nice to know they're there" sort of thing.  There isn't much in my personal movie queue at the moment, barring an Enola Holmes theatrical (or DVD) release.

 

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