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On 1/26/2022 at 5:16 PM, Carol the Dabbler said:

We got a notice from the IRS (the federal tax people) today, informing us that 1) they have not yet received our tax return that was due this past April, and 2) we have a credit with them.

Thing is, the amount of the credit is precisely the amount of the check that we mailed to them in April, in the same envelope with our return.

I am sorely tempted to write them a rather snide letter to that effect.  But I won't.  *sigh*  This snafu isn't the fault of the lackey in charge of reading letters, so I'll just send them a copy of the return, as requested.  With a cover letter that calmly points out the facts above.   :P

 

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Normally I'm pretty quick to leap to the defense of federal employees, but THAT is pretty pathetic......

I'd be curious to hear their explanation. If you get one. Which I doubt....

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1 hour ago, Arcadia said:

I'd be curious to hear their explanation. If you get one. Which I doubt....

Well, if they don't believe my explanation, we may hear from them eventually.  It's hard to imagine what they'd be demanding from us, though, considering that they've already admitted (in writing) to having the money, and we've now sent them (a copy of) the return that jibes precisely with the amount.

I assume it was a simple matter of somebody shredding the wrong papers, or our (original) return being accidentally knocked into a wastebasket.  Doubt very much that they'd be able to determine exactly what happened, at this point.  In an agency that large, it's actually kind of amazing that this sort of thing (whatever it was) doesn't happen more often.

 

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6 hours ago, Carol the Dabbler said:

Well, if they don't believe my explanation, we may hear from them eventually.  It's hard to imagine what they'd be demanding from us, though, considering that they've already admitted (in writing) to having the money, and we've now sent them (a copy of) the return that jibes precisely with the amount.

I assume it was a simple matter of somebody shredding the wrong papers, or our (original) return being accidentally knocked into a wastebasket.  Doubt very much that they'd be able to determine exactly what happened, at this point.  In an agency that large, it's actually kind of amazing that this sort of thing (whatever it was) doesn't happen more often.

 

I wonder if some sort of work-from-home snafu might be involved, too. 

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10 hours ago, Arcadia said:

I wonder if some sort of work-from-home snafu might be involved

Good heavens, I hope not!  It's one matter to let employees take no-big-deal stuff home to work on, or to let a professional-level employee take a few significant documents home.  But tax returns are presumably handled by data-entry clerks, each of whom would presumably key in dozens of them (say a boxful) per day.  Doesn't seem particularly prudent to let that quantity of sensitive material leave the office.

 

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On 2/5/2022 at 4:56 PM, Carol the Dabbler said:

Good heavens, I hope not!  It's one matter to let employees take no-big-deal stuff home to work on, or to let a professional-level employee take a few significant documents home.  But tax returns are presumably handled by data-entry clerks, each of whom would presumably key in dozens of them (say a boxful) per day.  Doesn't seem particularly prudent to let that quantity of sensitive material leave the office.

 

So, any resolution? Inquiring minds etc. :-) 

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5 hours ago, Arcadia said:

So, any resolution?

After only a month?  You do realize that we're talking about the federal government?

 

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I hate tax and all the administrative hassles that come with it.

But then again, I have more pressing matter. 

I love ice, and drink everything with ice. Apparently, it is a very dangerous substance, look at the common denominator in chart below. I am going to die!

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On 2/28/2022 at 4:46 AM, Van Buren Supernova said:

I hate tax and all the administrative hassles that come with it.

Me too, but I love all the things that come with it. Free roads. Free libraries. Free parks. Free education. 

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On 3/6/2022 at 8:44 PM, Arcadia said:

Me too, but I love all the things that come with it. Free roads. Free libraries. Free parks. Free education. 

Uhmm... I heard your healthcare sucks :whistle:

 

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On 3/14/2022 at 6:47 AM, Van Buren Supernova said:

Uhmm... I heard your healthcare sucks :whistle:

 

Actually, the health care's pretty good, it's the price off it that sucks. :D  We need more taxes ....  xKB9zND.gif?2

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On 1/26/2022 at 5:16 PM, Carol the Dabbler said:

We got a notice from the IRS (the federal tax people) today, informing us that 1) they have not yet received our tax return that was due this past April, and 2) we have a credit with them.

Thing is, the amount of the credit is precisely the amount of the check that we mailed to them in April, in the same envelope with our return.

 

On 2/27/2022 at 8:26 AM, Arcadia said:

So, any resolution?


No explanation of what happened to our original return, but we've had a response, at least.  Using (presumably) the photocopy we sent them, they redid our calculations on the return and decided that we had overpaid, so they sent us a refund.  And because they'd had our extra money for quite a while, they even paid us interest on it.

Of course that $4.02 interest is taxable income, which (they point out) must be reported on our 2022 return.   :P

 

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When people hereabouts (and quite possibly elsewhere as well) no longer want a still-usable object, they'll put it out at the curb on trash day, but instead of putting it in the trash can, they set it next to or in front of the can -- effectively saying, "If you want this, please take it before the garbage truck gets here."  So if I see something I can use, or that someone I know can use, I'll take it.

Today there was a kitchen-type chair sitting by the curb with a pumpkin-shaped bowl sitting on it.  I wouldn't mind having a spare chair, and the bowl looked kinda cute, so I walked over and went to pick up the bowl for a closer look.  But I couldn't lift it.

Apparently the bowl had broken, so someone decided to glue it back together, using the chair for a work table.  And ended up super-gluing the bowl to the chair.  :huh:

I left them there.

 

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On 4/16/2022 at 6:43 PM, Carol the Dabbler said:

 


No explanation of what happened to our original return, but we've had a response, at least.  Using (presumably) the photocopy we sent them, they redid our calculations on the return and decided that we had overpaid, so they sent us a refund.  And because they'd had our extra money for quite a while, they even paid us interest on it.

Of course that $4.02 interest is taxable income, which (they point out) must be reported on our 2022 return.   :P

 

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I saw a truck go by today, a smallish one with an enclosed cargo area, such as plumbers and other repair people tend to drive.  The name of the company was painted on the side:

Alien's

Took me a moment to realize it was actually Allen's, but the gasoline-fill cap was near the top of the second L.  I kinda like it better the first way.

 

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On 1/26/2022 at 5:16 PM, Carol the Dabbler said:

We got a notice from the IRS (the federal tax people) today, informing us that 1) they have not yet received our tax return that was due this past April, and 2) we have a credit with them.

Thing is, the amount of the credit is precisely the amount of the check that we mailed to them in April, in the same envelope with our return.

A week or so ago we got another letter from them, saying (once we translated it into normal English) that on the form we submitted this year, we had overlooked a fairly sizable tax credit that we're eligible for.  Then they said we had to reply to their letter within 20 days -- counting from the date it was written, not when it was mailed nor when we received it.  Nor is it really clear whether they mean that we need to literally send our reply within that time, or that they need to receive it by then.

We had never heard of the additional form they wanted us to fill out, and it took us a little while to figure out what it meant, but we got together everything they had asked for, took it to the post office, and sent it via Priority Mail (supposed to arrive in two days), with tracking and with a signature required at the other end.  That was Wednesday the 5th, and they said it should arrive on Friday.  Whew, all taken care of!

But Friday night I checked the tracking website, and saw that although our letter had gotten to the big postal facility near the IRS center on Thursday afternoon, it showed nothing after that.  Now, four days later, it still doesn't show any indication of delivery or any signature of recipient.  Did the post office lose the letter?  Was it shredded in their machinery?  Did they deliver it but fail to update the tracking info?

So we made new copies of everything that was in the first envelope and wrote a cover letter explaining that these are duplicates, so please ignore if they already got the originals.  We'll take all that to the post office again tomorrow.  Hopefully they have a more reliable way of tracking letters, and they'll say it got there fine last Friday (but the website isn't updating properly).  Otherwise we'll have to hope that the Postal Service gets it delivered this time.

 

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On 10/11/2022 at 11:50 PM, Carol the Dabbler said:

A week or so ago we got another letter from them, saying (once we translated it into normal English) that on the form we submitted this year, we had overlooked a fairly sizable tax credit that we're eligible for.  Then they said we had to reply to their letter within 20 days -- counting from the date it was written, not when it was mailed nor when we received it.  Nor is it really clear whether they mean that we need to literally send our reply within that time, or that they need to receive it by then.

We had never heard of the additional form they wanted us to fill out, and it took us a little while to figure out what it meant, but we got together everything they had asked for, took it to the post office, and sent it via Priority Mail (supposed to arrive in two days), with tracking and with a signature required at the other end.  That was Wednesday the 5th, and they said it should arrive on Friday.  Whew, all taken care of!

But Friday night I checked the tracking website, and saw that although our letter had gotten to the big postal facility near the IRS center on Thursday afternoon, it showed nothing after that.  Now, four days later, it still doesn't show any indication of delivery or any signature of recipient.  Did the post office lose the letter?  Was it shredded in their machinery?  Did they deliver it but fail to update the tracking info?

So we made new copies of everything that was in the first envelope and wrote a cover letter explaining that these are duplicates, so please ignore if they already got the originals.  We'll take all that to the post office again tomorrow.  Hopefully they have a more reliable way of tracking letters, and they'll say it got there fine last Friday (but the website isn't updating properly).  Otherwise we'll have to hope that the Postal Service gets it delivered this time.

 

OK, so we took our duplicate to the PO, and the gal checked her internal official tracking system, and told us the original was still moving, but within a large facility, so the website wasn't being updated.  We figured we'd hold off a while, lest we confuse them with the duplicate.  That was a week ago.

Our packet finally left the large facility, and we started getting updates again, but they weren't very specific till last night it said it had arrived at the local post office.  And today it was delivered.  Fortunately today may have been our deadline (depending on interpretation), so we definitely got it there on time, just barely.

But daggone it, when we mailed the thing, we paid extra for two-day delivery, and it ended up taking exactly two weeks!

 

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Are you getting a refund, at least? If they claim something like "it's preferred handling but not guaranteed to be delivered in that time frame" that would be adding insult to injury, imo.

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2 hours ago, Caya said:

Are you getting a refund

A refund of the special-handling charge, you mean?  I seriously doubt that's possible -- so I don't think we'll even try.  If you read the fine print, they don't actually guarantee delivery in a certain amount of time, they just say it's "typical" or something of that sort, and we were aware of that, regardless of what the postal clerk told us -- but they really do get it there extra-quick most of the time.

When we went to the PO the second time, to check, the gal said the big facility out there was probably having to handle a lot of mail that would otherwise have gone via facilities in areas recently damaged by Hurricane Ian, which of course seems plausible.  But you'd think the postal HQ would have notified their people all over the country that massive slowdowns were probable at certain facilities -- in which case the guy that took our missive in the first place would presumably NOT have said (as he actually did), "It'll be delivered Friday."  That would have been very helpful, in the sense that we could have opted to FAX it instead.

But, on the bright side, it did arrive in time.  Barely!  And the PO website provided us with a Proof of Delivery.

 

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