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  1. 1. Who do you prefer, Irene Adler or Molly?



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I'm sure it could...

but Sherlock doesn't really do relationships.

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3 hours ago, besleybean said:

Sherlock doesn't really do relationships.

... which may be just as well for Molly -- or whoever.

 

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15 hours ago, Carol the Dabbler said:

Sorry, Arcadia, I was indeed thinking of The Association.

OK, so you're like Alex -- he mentions some song that he likes, and I say what's it about, and he says he has no idea, he just likes the way it sounds.  I'm like that about some songs (best example: the Japanese song that was released here with the ridiculously inappropriate title "Sukiyaki" -- I could tell it was sad, that's all), but if they're in a language I understand at all, the words are very important to my assessment.  (My advice:  Don't EVER listen to a sung -- rather than instrumental -- version of "Love Is Blue.")

My advice is to not listen to the instrumental version either.

15 hours ago, Carol the Dabbler said:

Just as well that you don't pay much attention to the lyrics (here they are, with an audio clip as well), in that case.  I kinda choke on the lines "You don't know how many times I've wished that I could mold you Into someone who could cherish me as much as I cherish you."

Hey, with voices like that, they can mold me any way they like. :tongue2:

13 hours ago, BBally1981 said:

Molly seems to be a better choice but the question is, would it work out?

There you go, keep us on topic! :D 

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13 minutes ago, Arcadia said:

My advice is to not listen to the instrumental version either.

Hey, I like "Love is Blue" (the instrumental)!   (Or at least I did back in the day -- haven't heard it recently.)  OK, here are both versions. (Paul Mauriat does the instrumental, and Marty Robbins is a singer, so I assume his is vocal -- but darned if I'm gonna listen to that one.)  Yup, I still like the instrumental.

15 minutes ago, Arcadia said:

Hey, with voices like that, they can mold me any way they like.

Oh, they're OK, but I don't think they're THAT good!  If they were The Seekers, it might be different.  :P

1 hour ago, besleybean said:

Well I'd have him!

Aaand we're back on topic again!

 

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4 minutes ago, Carol the Dabbler said:

Hey, I like "Love is Blue" (the instrumental)!   (Or at least I did back in the day -- haven't heard it recently.)  OK, here are both versions. (Paul Mauriat does the instrumental, and Marty Robbins is a singer, so I assume his is vocal -- but darned if I'm gonna listen to that one.)  Yup, I still like the instrumental.

Oh, they're OK, but I don't think they're THAT good!  If they were The Seekers, it might be different.  :P

The SEEKERS!!!! Egad. :confused2:

6 minutes ago, Carol the Dabbler said:

Aaand we're back on topic again!

Wait, aren't we supposed to be the moderators?

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14 minutes ago, Arcadia said:

Wait, aren't we supposed to be the moderators?

I believe that's the theory, yes.

 

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On 9/8/2020 at 1:35 AM, besleybean said:

Yes, Steven made that abundantly clear and so we have to go with that.

I still find this so perplexing, but at the time I just rejected it.  He also joked Molly was going to go out and shag someone after the end of season 4 so, I'm not sure I trust his judgment on his own characters.  lol  In the end, we'll probably never know, and I'll probably never have to deal with my headcanon being ruined, because season 5 feels so unlikely at this point.

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Loo(Molly) famously had words with Steven...

she didn't agree with the way he wrote the character.

But she loves him really and says they have agreed to disagree!

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38 minutes ago, sittything said:

He also joked Molly was going to go out and shag someone after the end of season 4 so, I'm not sure I trust his judgment on his own characters.

Or he feels the need to make ridiculous jokes.  I have no idea.

8 minutes ago, besleybean said:

Loo(Molly) famously had words with Steven...

she didn't agree with the way he wrote the character.

But she loves him really and says they have agreed to disagree!

Didn't they finally agree on something, at least regarding one particular scene?

 

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Not that I'm aware of...

I took from what Loo said that she appreciated Steven explaining his reasoning to her...

but she still disagreed with him!

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On 9/8/2020 at 6:33 AM, Arcadia said:

I always rooted for Molly to get whatever would make her happy (i.e., Sherlock) but I also believe he wouldn't actually make her happy, unless he changed a lot. Which wouldn't hurt my feelings any if he did change, but I can't see it happening. If nothing else, the fandom would get nasty about it. :rolleyes: 

I also get the impression that Moffat believes Irene is the "official" love interest, so there's that.....

Well, Irene is the official love interest from the original Sherlock Holmes stories so in that sense it's true. 

In BBC Sherlock I think it makes sense that Irene is the closest thing to a love interest that Sherlock will ever have because I just can't picture him settling down into a regular relationship with anyone. It just seems so out of character for me. 

I can't quite imagine him sleeping with Irene either when they meet, my head canon is they just play some insanely dangerous cat and mouse game with vaguely sexual elements and then each go their own way until the next year or so. He's clearly very attracted to her but I can't imagine Sherlock Holmes making time for a basic shag in some hotel room. That would be way too ordinary for either of them. 

As for Molly, I love Molly and I love her friendship with Sherlock but when it comes to romantic relationships, I think she deserves more than what I think he could give. 

The only person I emotially "ship" Sherlock with is John but I don't give a damn if they go to bed (personally don't believe they do or want to but still understand why other fans see this differently...). 

 

I am probably the rare person who is perfectly happy with the way things are at the end of the series! 😄

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3 hours ago, besleybean said:

Not that I'm aware of...

I took from what Loo said that she appreciated Steven explaining his reasoning to her...

but she still disagreed with him!

I've always loved and appreciated Loo's care for the character of Molly.  She really seems quite fond of her.

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6 minutes ago, sittything said:

I've always loved and appreciated Loo's care for the character of Molly.  She really seems quite fond of her.

Who wouldn't be? Molly is incredibly lovable. 

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On 9/10/2020 at 3:57 PM, T.o.b.y said:

Well, Irene is the official love interest from the original Sherlock Holmes stories so in that sense it's true. 

Yeah, that's what I meant as well ... in spite of Moftisses declarations that they feel free to pull from any source, etc., Moffat seems to feel Irene-as-love-interest is inviolable canon. Not a bad way to look at it, imo ... but I still root for Molly. :D 

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