bronzeblues

No, Arcadia, I really am not. 😁😁😁

Funny thing is, it wasn't that bothersome when I watched it. The only episodes I was actually appalled with from the start were TEH, T6T and of course TFP. After that I started to look back at series as a whole and realised it was never as good as I thought.

Well, you may see it as some kind of tongue in cheek commentary on Sherlock and fandom but from what I read Moffat(and Gatiss to a lesser degree) saw it as some invigorating work of art that no one should have anything against. I mean, how dare they criticise the episode with Sherlock's lunatic sister that is imitating Anthony Hopkins but in the end just needed a hug??? As for the quirky characters you love this show for. Sorry, but I don't see any. This Sherlock is not autistic or whatever adjective has been thrown around. He simply acts as an unpleasant jerk for most of the time. The writers also ask of me to be extremely charmed by him despite his behaviour. Practically every other character there exists to react on something related to Sherlock. John here has little to no agenda.He's there to comment how amazing Sherlock is and sometimes he's also there to be saved by Sherlock. Molly... pure idealization of a fangirl.I know many see themselves in Molly. I don't. Maybe that's my problem. I can say they did a decent job of writing Mycroft... until the last episode that is. I felt he was the only character whose "incredible Holmes geniusness" wasn't brought to the point of caricature. The acting though has always been better than the writing quality of this show deserved.

As a Bond fan, I've already been in a situation like this before. The writers misunderstanding the novels in the first place coupled with their promises of "updating" them. It never goes well... The only difference is I don't disapprove of the main actor in Sherlock.

Yeah, well, they took the whole "fanboy" thing way too far starting with TEH and reached truly astonishing fanfiction levels with TFP. We shouldn't overlook the fact that great PR did a lot of heavy-lifting for this show. Even when it was way better than season 4 it wasn't the greatest piece of human making the world has ever seen and THAT'S PRECISELY the way it was dubbed. During series 4 I constantly had the feeling nobody involved with the project still had the heart to do it. I felt it was a bit like "Do we still have to do this?" "Yeah, I guess..."

That final montage with Mary's narration has to be the most smug, self-congratulatory pat on the back I have ever seen.

Eurus probably switched the cameras off with her will power. After all, that's what all REALLY SMART people DO.

Of course she did. With all the cameras around and guards as well. I am still astounded with the quality of that episode I have to say. One of the main beefs I have is turning Mycroft in an imbecile. I was always a fan of his reserved and obviously very intelligent demanour.

Eurus needs cell from which she can't escape from. The whole Holmes family must lack a glass-seeing gene. Because it says Eurus locked Mycroft in her cell.. the one without the glass.

This just reminded of people who hated James Bond until Craig arrived. I think there's enough of character exploration/whatever that's called dramas out there. Can't see why a series starring a famous detective who primarily solved crimes had to be one of them.

I've seen that "BC Sherlock is the closest to Doyle Sherlock" argument when it came to discussing which interpretation was the best. After all, nothing boost points like saying something is faithful to the original material.

When I watch a show called Sherlock and the main character is Sherlock Holmes then I think it's not much to ask to have one decent mystery case per episode. After all, he is, alongside Poirot, the most famous fictional detective out there. It seems to me that the writers don't value that "one mystery per episode" schtick that Doyle himself established in his novels. Instead EVERYTHING has to be connected to Moriarty and EVERYTHING comes from him. Why? After he but a bullet in his brain that seemed to be a dead end for any detective work in this series. Instead, we have all sorts of tedious stuff about Mary that few even liked and a bloody catastrophy of the last episode. Moffat seems to regard all of this as some groundbreaking piece of television and then gets salty when fans treat it like it's a soap opera(like I said-an obsession with romantic links between the characters). Now, when I see those old comments around the internet about this incarnation of Sherlock being the closest to the Doyle writing I have to laugh. It actually reminds me of the same thing that happened with James Bond franchise.

You see, IMO, that's something that should never be said when it comes to any series with a detective in it. Especially not Sherlock Holmes. But I guess it is to be expected with this version since there are perhaps three episodes with a proper case to solve. Out of twelve. No wonder some are so obsessed with shipping Sherlock with whomever they please.

It does, my dear, it does. What I resent the most that they didn't even try to make a compelling crime solving show. Instead we were supposed to marvel at Sherlock's sudden humanness... if a show is called Sherlock Holmes then I expect exciting mysteries solving.Instead, I got Sherlock demi-god for one part who makes deductions out of think air and then for the other I get Sherlock being chummy with an assassin and his psycho sister(urgh, Eurus, why oh why)... WHY OH WHY...

Well, they certainly challenged me to throw something at the tv. Especially during the finale.I need to find a barfbag.

Yeah, well, it's one thing when you get dissapointed with how things turn out in your life. It's quite another when you throw a fit because two fictional characters didn't get together and had all that sex you imagined them having while you were writting fanfiction.

The idea of John and Sherlock as a couple was also explicitly a joke but of course, that doesn't matter to fanatical shippers. The idea of Irene and Sherlock was also brought up in an actual SERIOUS manner. Do you see people who "ship" these two attacking everbody they possibly can because we didn't see Irene and Sherlock snogging at the end? You don't, do you? Saying how we should try to understand them because it so hurts when your expectations aren't met is hilarious. This is a tv show for crying out loud. Your expectations in life won't be met in a number of ways that are actually important.

The difference here is, you liked the characters that really were this and that, at least in the beginning. It was the fault of the creators to change their tune after a while. But, Sherlock and John were never gay in the first place. They were never written as gay and were never meant to be gay in this version either. Just because gay people feel like they are entitled to representation in just about any form of media it doesn't justify their obnoxious ways. It's like me going on about how there is no character from South-Eastern Europe to represent "me". I could also go on about how many times I've seen us being described as low class barbarians at best and evil nazis at worst. But I'm not. That's because I know movies and TV shows are here to tell us a story. Not to be some kind of weapon for all sorts of social justice warriors.

Why do they need hope for that in the first place? Being gay means you are romantically attracted to the people of your own sex. Just that. And nothing more. It doesn't make them special and it doesn't make them privileged to attack creators or actors and just about anyone because they do not agree with their idea. I'd argue they seek validation of sorts because they are not entirely at peace with their own orientation. Fine, but that doesn't mean these characters written in the 19th century need to be turned into gays just because it would send some kind of message. Riiiiiiight. The only message it would send is how disrespectful that is towards the work of Doyle. Even crazier is the idea of that sort of shipping translating to the actors and I can not even imagine how uncomfortable that must be to these two men. I perfectly understand if none of the actors don't want to go near this series anymore. The whole thing just leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Because these rabid shippers turned the whole thing around their delusional idea of what this show is about. Not that it was about mystery and crime solving for the majority of episodes.Sigh.

I honestly loved the fact that he seems to be a fan of noir detective movies. The dynamic of that film couple reminded me heavily of Sherlock and The Woman. I can not help but laugh at the thought that he secretly felt immense satisfaction at sending Sherlock to Irene's place. 😂 Before the whole Bond air scandal of course. Also, Anthea. Always wandered if Mycroft was above the whole "boss and the secretary" thing. The thought must have slipped his mind.

I was specifically talking about the BBC version of Moriarty.Who is a clear psychopath who has no fears or dreams. If he had he wouldn't so casually shoot himself just so he could "beat" Sherlock. Sigh. I guess he counted on his hilarious "tick-tock" tapes he made in cahoots with Eurus.LMFAO.

Moriarty, the over the top cheesy caricature of a brilliant psychopath? You could say what are his dreams, hopes and fears? How is this level of romanticisation even possible?

Honestly, I think that's more of a case of Freeman stealing the show with his acting not John as a character overshadowing everyone else. The one complaint I saw more and more over time is just how little agency the good doctor actually has in this show and I'm glad people caught onto that. Seemed to me that in most scenes he was there to gape at sheer awesomeness and brilliance of Sherlock Holmes. In fact when in TFP Mycroft says John is just another goldfish Sherlock wanted to dazzle with his cleverness it's like writers themselves were aware they didn't do a whole lot with John. I probably wouldn't even notice that if there were compelling or at least decent mysteries in every episode but since there weren't... other flaws just become ore obvious.

I was always more of a fan of a "show, don't tell" approach. And the whole "You do count" thing was heavily in the "telling and not showing" category if you ask me. Sherlock is downright mean to Molly at Christmas gathering and that is coming from someone who is irritated with all the fawning over an idea that Sherlock deep down has a heart of gold and wouldn't want him to have it. There's no Molly in the next episode and in TRF she appearently always "counted". When exactly, if I may ask.The last time we saw her she was in a morgue after that awful Christmas evening.

I know this will probably get me heavily downvoted but good grief, sometimes I just think Molly fans see their favorite as more important than she actually is. Yeah, she was in majority of episodes but does that really make her such a major character? While her role ultimately was bigger than originally intended I don't think she's as important to Sherlock as some like to think. A delusion about Sherlock being a better man than he is probably has something to do with that. While he behaves better around Molly gradually over time he is still is far too "out there" to truly appreaciate and like(in a platonic way) someone like Molly.