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I was only joking with the word 'harsh'- I just meant that the writers were leading people to the conclusion that Moriarty is still alive, so it's not surprising that some people think he is! I think the bit after the credits is quite annoying really - it's quite unnecessary to show if Andrew Scott has no further involvement in the show - it's a tease, but one that will lead nowhere if it isn't the actual Moriarty or a twin (and I don't think it's either)

Lol, well lucky they know the canon, as I clearly don't! :-)

'Mistaken' is a bit harsh - 'misled by the writers' more like! They have shown a picture of him saying 'did you miss me?' then the actual character saying the same thing - you can see how the mistake could happen!

Morstan and Moran are pretty similar names to be a coincidence, especially from writers who know the canon so well...

Lol, I also assumed that 'disillusioned' had to be linked to 'lib dem voter' - how could it not?!

Well, all we know for sure is that she was his assistant. Maybe he was just practicing his "flicking" technique on her? Or maybe that's how he keeps his employees in line? Magnussen (unlike the original Milverton) apparently extorts power rather than money, so he doesn't seem to bother blackmailing "unimportant" people like Janine. There would be no power for him to gain.Hmm, that makes sense - power not money. But I got the impression he had been blackmailing Mary for a while - I wonder what power she had? Of course,she is leverage to Mycroft via John and Sherlock,but before Sherlock returned,she wouldn't have that. Also it has actually just occurred to me that Magnusson's comments about Janine don't actually prove she was having it done to her - she could be making 'the funniest noises' while doing it to someone else! Would fit in if she was 'Janine Moriarty' as a theory has suggested. I don't think so, though, I like her - but then, I liked Mary,so what do I know....!And if everyone John knows is a psychopath,he knows Janine a bit more now,so....

It's interesting,because if there are truly no vaults,he has no evidence,as John points out. He says he doesn't need evidence because he prints it in the papers, and certainly that is enough to destroy someone's reputation whether there is evidence or not. But according to Sherlock at the beginning, Magnusson does do deals with people when he's ready,so what does he give them in the exchange? The promise of his silence wouldn't be particularly reassuring for me....! The thing is he doesn't need to remember that much information, just enough to convince people he has more, surely? - he doesn't seem to be tested on it very often. He said he could call up people who hated Mary, but he doesn't do so because John isn't going to risk it. So how do we know? It is very clever!

I read a suggestion on another page that Janine could be 'Janine Moriarty'....Janine isn't too far from the feminine of James,and Watson's brother changed gender in this series!

I am with you on solution 5 - I thought that from when the scene with 'Richard Brooke' was on, but I didn't think an actor would be prepared to kill himself for a scene! But then the actor could have been told the gun wasn't really loaded, or could have been told, like Sherlock, that if he didn't do it, people he loved would be killed....he did seem so unhinged though! I suppose the brother theory is closer to canon, though.

So not walking away after all, but instead making an argument (among other things). Okay. By saying "could" you are claiming that the script may be indicating CAM is reading something other than a physical or digital or mental file. What other option are you claiming exists for the script to be having CAM read? Remember, while it is just a TV show, it isn't a science fiction TV show (like Moffat's other big hit), so lets keep things in the realm of reality... :-) I am in the realm of reality. IE, not arguing over a TV show. Just chill :-)

Thank you for acknowledging what I've been claiming has been in the script all along - ie Sherlock's recognition that CAM was not reading physical or digital, but in fact mental files. In other words, that Sherlock recognized, as you put it, CAM "could access his vaults mentally". Of course that fact alone was not how the script revealed Sherlock's deduction about any physical vaults and his consequent plans, including the killing of CAM. As I explicitly stated, if you wanted the rest of what you demanded - quotes from the script which show all that I've been claiming - I would be happy to provide them. However, you've indicated you prefer to agree to disagree instead. So I'll simply leave as read the proof that all the rest of my claims were as validly supported in the script as this one - and walk away as you request. I said 'could' ;-) but don't worry, i'll stop using your 'pressure point' now and just remind you it is a TV show, not real, so let's not take it too seriously...

I thought in canon, it was Watson who was the gambler? Or have I remembered that wrong? I wonder if they will do anything with that in this show? Of course, the idea of him being 'addicted to excitement/danger' can fit in with a gambling personality.

Well, all we know for sure is that she was his assistant. Maybe he was just practicing his "flicking" technique on her? Or maybe that's how he keeps his employees in line? Magnussen (unlike the original Milverton) apparently extorts power rather than money, so he doesn't seem to bother blackmailing "unimportant" people like Janine. There would be no power for him to gain. That's an interesting point - power not money. How long was Mary being blackmailed for then? I thought it was from before she met John, but the power she had was leverage to Mycroft,so there wouldn't have been much gain for Magnusson prior to Sherlock's return. Unless Mary has something else up her sleeve....! I suppose an assassin is privy to a lot of secrets and grudges...

Oops,my previous comment was submitted last night,don't know how it took so long to show! And it's relating to something now about 3 pages back. Oh well.

RadCap,the script could suggest that Sherlock knew Magnusson could access his vaults mentally, not that there are no physical vaults at Appledore. So there are a lot of ways for the writers to go with it,and I am happy to agree to disagree while they do,as the mods requested.