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I wasn't referring to the personal exchange, but to this exchange: John: ... the killer's got an invisible car? Sherlock: Yes! Exactly! ... There are cars that pass like ghosts, unseen, unremembered. There are people we trust, always, when we're alone, when we're lost, when we're drunk. We never see their faces, but every day we disappear into their cars and let the trap close around us. And then the wine he throws in his own face and the chase and so on ...

I saw in one of the DVD extras that Edward Hardwicke had to memorize all his "reading from the newspaper" dialogue since he couldn't read without his glasses.

Watched it again this evening, and I had forgotten how really great that scene at Angelo's (I know that's not the name of the restaurant) really is! Yes, that whole premise of Sherlock taking so long to catch on to the cabbie idea was really (for me anyway) the only weak point of SiP. I remember in the commentary for SiP that they were glad they were able to go back and do some things over. One of the things they didn't mention that I'm glad they changed was the color of the bottles. In the unaired pilot, the bottles were brown and you couldn't see the pills. And of course in SiP the bottles were clear.

In my 40 years as a Sherlockian, I've known a number of what I call "Sherlockian Trekkies." One seems to go right along with the other. As for Brett's Watsons, Burke is my favorite, although I like Hardwicke very much too. Hardwicke took over beautifully, and as you all have said, he seemed to have matured the character and his relationship with Holmes.

That sure is strange. This place is easy enough to find, that's for sure. Well, I understand it's quite young yet, so maybe as time goes on ...

On re-viewing Study in Pink, I believe I've found a few that haven't been mentioned here: - When John meets Mike Stamford and they're sitting on the bench, John's cup has "Criterion" on it, which is a nod to the Criterion Bar in which they met in the canon. - I can't remember anyone mentioning the "Afghanistan or Iraq?" remark ("You've been in Afghanistan, I perceive"). - When Sherlock is showing John the flat for the first time and he's making an attempt to clean up, he pierces some papers into the mantelpiece with a jackknife. - Lauriston Gardens is straight from the canon, the scene of the crime. - The text Sherlock sent to John while he was being confronted by Mycroft - "Come at once if convenient ..." and then a few beats later, "if inconvenient, come anyway." - The three-patch (three-pipe) problem. - I've heard that the cabbie's name is supposed to be Jeff Hope (the bad guy's name in Study in Scarlet is Jefferson Hope), but I can't recall hearing that in the episode. - Canonically speaking, there's great confusion about Watson's wound(s). Moftiss dealt with that so cleverly! His leg wound was psychosomatic, but in the end we find out that yes, he was shot in the shoulder. For those who don't know the canon, Doyle moved Watson's wound from his leg to his shoulder and back. Not everything is from Study in Scarlet. As previously noted, Moftiss et all dropped in what seemed to fit, and haven't they been doing it all wonderfully?!

I just caught it on PBS last night. I had expected it to be somewhat dry, but it wasn't, at all. It was really very good. I didn't recognize where many of the clips came from. I was disappointed there were no Brett clips. There were a few clips from BBC's Sherlock. I can't decide if I want to buy it, but it was great viewing! And so much truth there!

I've now plowed my way through the thread, and now my challenge is to come up with something y'all haven't covered! Good job! I'm sure between now and January 19th (yes, I have to wait until then since I'm here in the US) I'll be re-watching all six, and I'll be scanning very carefully with pad in hand and I'll see what I can come up with.

Great idea!

It really is a wonderful scene. When I re-watch the six episodes, I usually skip The Blind Banker. I should re-watch it. There are some good parts, such as this one, and John yelling into the girl's letterbox for Sherlock to let him in while the bad guy is fighting him. Then Sherlock comes out and can barely talk.

So Toby, you're in Germany?! I'm loving talking to people from all over the world. Caya, is your Vienna in Austria or Virginia?

Carol: Wow, this has been great! Thank you so much for sharing this with us!

Please do, I'd be honored. I hope the person who originally chose that pseudonym doesn't mind. I've blabbered about why I chose the name all over the place now, so I won't repeat it again, but there's a specific reason and in the unlikely case of your wanting to know: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/1807-another-introduction/?do=findComment&comment=15533 He certainly did his best, didn't he? So far, I haven't run across that other "Toby." If I ever have another dog (although I don't think I ever will), I think I'd name him Jasper, after the dog in Shoscombe Old Place. There are several other canonical dogs, but their names aren't great ... I'm not sure I can remember them all now, let's see ... Carlo (the mastiff in Copper Beeches), Fudge (Abbey Grange, all we see is her grave) ... I can't remember any more right now, although I'm sure there are.

Yes, Moftiss mentioned that in the DVD commentary (it was a "treat" for us Sherlockians ).

It was supposed to be just "Toby" after that old dog, yes. But the name was already taken, so I turned it into an acronym of I still don't know what. Okay, so I can just call you Toby!

I've read through this thread entirely now, and it's so nice to read such a nice tribute to Jeremy and the Granada series. I'm one who also feels that he is the definitive Victorian Sherlock Holmes. And I really do doubt there will ever be another production that attempts to do the stories as faithfully as Granada.

It's been many years since reading the novels, but I know Hound and Study are the last of the four in my estimation. I remember liking Valley, although I can't remember why. I guess that means it needs re-reading. I rank Sign as number one. That one I do indeed remember, not only the novel itself but also the so very excellent Granada production.

I believe I remember that either Moffat or Gatiss said that very thing in one of the commentaries. That when they started reading together they knew they had their team.

Thanks, Tim & Caya. It's a big place, I'm finding out.

One of my favorites, which hasn't been mentioned, is The Problem of Thor Bridge. Great work by Holmes (dramatized beautifully by Granada Productions and Jeremy Brett) and an admirable heroine in Grace Dunbar.

I've been a Sherlockian for over 40 years. My greatest (and only) regret about this is that I cannot read the canon again FOR THE FIRST TIME. I so envy anyone who is doing so. What a priceless treasure they are about to find, one after another. Aside from my Lord, nothing else inspires so much passion in me. As stupendous as BBC's SHERLOCK is, Granada's Sherlock Holmes series is the one for me, not only because of its faithfulness to ACD's canon but also the wonderful characterizations of Brett, Burke, and Hardwicke.

Yep. Says so in A Sign of the Four - "DAMN IT!" I exclaimed as the chip and pin machine refused my card for the second time. I was all too aware that one more time and my card would be locked and to save the bother of going to the bank, I merely shouted at the machine and flounced from the market stall, giving the dear woman serving me quite a fright. I hailed a cab and proceeded to my newly acquired residence where I informed Hoilmes that I shouted at a chip and pin machine in the market. Holmes, being the ever peculiar man that he is, tenderly stroked is violin, smirked, and told me to use his card." - Wordsworth Classics, page 15. I may be missing something, but are you serious? This isn't canonical at all. I mean it's not in the ACD canon. Yes, BBC's SHERLOCK, of course, but not ACD. I mean, think about it, Victorian age! I'm new here, and I'm sorry to make one of my first posts controversial. Maybe I just don't understand something.

Thanks so much for the welcomes! I already feel at home, and this is just post #2! I had a Toby once. A Yorkshire Terrier. I had him from a puppy, 1997-2010. My very best friend. I'm curious -- why the initials? Does T.o.b.y stand for something? Or is it a reference (like mine was) to the spaniel in Sign of Four? It's actually sort of nice to know that I haven't been missing this forum for ages - I so hate to miss out on things! Oh, and "peculiar" is definitely a compliment!

I'm so happy to have found this forum! Some time ago I looked and couldn't find one, but I knew eventually there had to be one showing up. There's plenty of information to be found on the internet so that I can "hear" a lot about Sherlock Holmes, but I want to be able to "talk" about him too! This is going to be just great! Nothing better than to talk about one's obsession with other "peculiar people!" How long has this forum been in existence? Has it really been that long since I searched for SH forums? When I searched on Google tonight, this placed popped right up. This is my first post, and it's 10:00 PM, so I think I'll pack it in for tonight. But tomorrow I'm going to probably spend most of the day examining this place and then diving in -- see y'all later! P.S. -- I've just had a glance so far, but I like the layout -- I'm sure I'll like it here.