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Still looks like one end of a regular adhesive bandage (alias sticking plaster) to me, but I'm not at all familiar with any other options.

 

If it were some sort of sound pickup, though, wouldn't it be on the inside of his wrist, closer to the glass?

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Bandage or no, that kind of visual mistake is inexcusable. That's not that short of a scene where something like that would be missed by professionals. Just blows me away they didn't fix that. Even if it was a pixelation problem or something per that shot is very tight ( super close-up), then they should have added the brown adhesive object or "bandage" to the mind palace scenes as well, since he was visiting it all in real time. ( well sherlockian time, he thought of all that before the glass hit the floor. "Fascinating"- Dr. Watson

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Oh, nice we have a corner for that.

 

First - kind of a plothole. First time they met, Sherlock sees John's suntan hand with a clear line at the wrist. But John has been injured and was in England for months. His tan must have been gone.

 

TGG - S talks about beuty of starry sky. You would never see so many stars in the middle of big city. Actually the astronomy geek would have big trouble to see anything with his telescope too. And I cannot understand that John didn't take a closer look to the yellow post its attached to the sky(?) map he has on the wall, but I guess it is another story.

 

Typing and violine - I wented about it already.

 

The brown patch doesn't bother me at all. Maybe Sherlock cut himself during some of his experiments.

 

The skeleton in TEH. If the body should look like it rotted in that cellar, the bones wouldn't be white. The clothing wouln't be clean. The skeleton would most probably fall apart. You don't need deductions to see the scene is a fake.

 

Sometimes you see the big mirror in 221B shake while persons are walking through the room.

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It doesn't really bother me all that much, because I can mentally tell myself... oh, band-aid.   But yeah, oops.  I honestly never noticed it while watching the episode, but I don't generally pick up on small things like that anyhow.

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First time they met, Sherlock sees John's suntan hand with a clear line at the wrist. But John has been injured and was in England for months. His tan must have been gone.

Not necessarily -- a tan line, especially on a light-skinned person like John, can take many months to fade. I can still tell quite easily what parts of my skin were / not exposed to the sun last summer.

 

TGG - S talks about beuty of starry sky. You would never see so many stars in the middle of big city. Actually the astronomy geek would have big trouble to see anything with his telescope too.

There are astronomers who specialize in viewing from the middle of large cities, so with the right equipment (e.g., filters for the common artificial-light frequencies), it can be done. But I agree with you about the naked-eye view. I suppose they thought having them look up through a narrow space between dark concrete walls would make it seem more believable, because the walls would block out the street lights and building lights. And that's true, but I still have strong doubts that it would help that much.

 

And I cannot understand that John didn't take a closer look to the yellow post its attached to the sky(?) map he has on the wall, but I guess it is another story.

I'm not placing this. What scene is it in?

 

Sometimes you see the big mirror in 221B shake while persons are walking through the room.

While not desirable, that's perfectly realistic, isn't it? I mean, the floors in some old buildings are not super-solid.

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I'm not placing this. What scene is it in?

 

As John uncovers the telescope. There is a (probably) a sky map attached to the wall on the left side of the window, with yellow post-its all over - and they screem to me each time: LOOK AT ME!

Nah, it's not really a goof or a mistake, just a thing that bothers me.

 

And here are another two: 1- in TBB Sherlock tries to untie Sarah instead of bringing the chair out of the danger zone (BTW, I was surprised seeing Sarah still around after that); 2- they try to find the code book, just by looking at each title in all the boxes. I wonder if Sherlock would be impressed if I told him I had 2 ideas to make it better? :lol4:

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As John uncovers the telescope. There is a (probably) a sky map attached to the wall on the left side of the window, with yellow post-its all over - and they screem to me each time: LOOK AT ME!

I never noticed that!  (But then the left side of the window is quite a distance from us). It probably looked like just so much techo-babble to John, but you'd think he would have at least glanced at it. That chart or map (or whatever it is) is visible through most of that scene, starting when John enters the room, here -- but it's generally visible at an odd angle, out-of-focus in the background.  It's a bit closer from this frame through this one (though perhaps no less blurry), then it goes back to the original somewhat longer shot.  I can report that the telescope is a Celestron, but that's about it!

 

And here are another two: 1- in TBB Sherlock tries to untie Sarah instead of bringing the chair out of the danger zone (BTW, I was surprised seeing Sarah still around after that); 2- they try to find the code book, just by looking at each title in all the boxes. I wonder if Sherlock would be impressed if I told him I had 2 ideas to make it better? :lol4:

1- Yup, John shows a good deal more common sense there than Sherlock does.

2- Apparently quite a number of us have been screaming at our television screens during that scene!

 

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Fine bit of speculation, unfortunately it was much more mundane than that. As you may know, these things are not shot in sequence. In the Special edition S3 with commentary, Sue Vertue comments during the door banging sequence that it was then that " Benedict injured his hand", so the unobtrusive brown plaster had to be hidden beneath his formal shirt in the toast sequence. He does like to take things to extremes during filming, but in this case, it rebounded on him, the same way that he tore one of his toenails out during the sheet scene fall in Scandal, and injuried his knee during the Planetarium scene in TGG. Perhaps he should have become a barrister after all!

P. S. The obvious idea, dear J. P. is ALPHABETISE, you idiots!

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And here are another two: 1- in TBB Sherlock tries to untie Sarah instead of bringing the chair out of the danger zone (BTW, I was surprised seeing Sarah still around after that); 2- they try to find the code book, just by looking at each title in all the boxes. I wonder if Sherlock would be impressed if I told him I had 2 ideas to make it better? :lol4:

1- Yup, John shows a good deal more common sense there than Sherlock does.

2- Apparently quite a number of us have been screaming at our television screens during that scene!

 

 

YES!  That and why didn't Sarah just fall over?!?!  I can't watching TBB without screaming at Sarah to just fall over in her chair.  

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Yep-p. Alphabetise. Take four policemen and let them order the books in the cellar. Or take laptops that run Excel, take two folks for one laptop - one is reading titles, the other typing. Put all tables from one group together, Alphabetize, compare tables. Dimmock wanted to help! shakehead.gif

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Yep-p. Alphabetise. Take four policemen and let them order the books in the cellar. Or take laptops that run Excel, take two folks for one laptop - one is reading titles, the other typing. Put all tables from one group together, Alphabetize, compare tables. Dimmock wanted to help! shakehead.gif

 

God, yes!  That makes me absolutely insane.  I mean, sure, take a cursory look through both sets of books to quickly rule out common things like the same edition of the Bible or the same edition of the dictionary.  But then alphabetize that mess?

 

Question:  Is London A to Z really that common of a book for people who live in the city to own?

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My main question about Van Coon and Lukis's book collections (other than how Sherlock mis-handled them) is -- how many people actually own that many books?

 

Well, I do, of course (far, far more than that, I suspect), but I've had people look at the one bookcase I could fit into the living room at one place where I lived and exclaim, "Wow you sure have a lot of books!"  Van Coon is a banker and Lukis is a travel journalist, if I'm recalling correctly.  Both travel a good deal.  Both are relatively young men, presumably internet-savvy.  It's hard enough for me to believe that either of them owned a large number of books -- but both of them?

 

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Phhht, compared to the number of books in this house, those guys had nuthin'. A few pitiful box loads! Pah, they were obviously barely literate. :D

 

Maybe they wanted to hide THE book by putting it with other books???

 

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Phhht, compared to the number of books in this house, those guys had nuthin'. A few pitiful box loads! Pah, they were obviously barely literate. :D

 

Maybe they wanted to hide THE book by putting it with other books???

 

That is a very plausible idea Arcadia.  Bury the book with other books and make sure to have a few that were the same in case the code book ever changed.  It's also possible that they had more than 1 code going at a time and certain things such as Chinese character combinations were the key to which book to grab.  So seeing the 15 and 1 together might have been a clue to grab the London A to Z and proceed to follow the code starting with those 2 numbers.

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Phhht, compared to the number of books in this house, those guys had nuthin'. A few pitiful box loads! Pah, they were obviously barely literate. :D

 

Maybe they wanted to hide THE book by putting it with other books???

 

That is a very plausible idea Arcadia.  Bury the book with other books and make sure to have a few that were the same in case the code book ever changed.  It's also possible that they had more than 1 code going at a time and certain things such as Chinese character combinations were the key to which book to grab.  So seeing the 15 and 1 together might have been a clue to grab the London A to Z and proceed to follow the code starting with those 2 numbers.

 

Sounds like a reasonable system -- but according to Soo Lin's partial translation, the message started right in with the first pair of numbers.

 

But yeah, OK, I guess I can buy it that Van Coon and Lukis made sure to have plenty of books around as camouflage.  Maybe the Tong even told them to do so.

 

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What's funny is that I didn't even mean that to be a plausible explanation ..... :p

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Oh no, no, I've taken up enough space. Do go ahead, please. ;)

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Well then, I like your idea.  It's only a bit of a stretch.  And it sure beats whining (as I was) about all those books being flat-out unrealistic.

 

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Whine? We don't whine! We're Sherlockians! We ... whinge.

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Phhht, compared to the number of books in this house, those guys had nuthin'. A few pitiful box loads! Pah, they were obviously barely literate. :D

 

Maybe they wanted to hide THE book by putting it with other books???

 

That is a very plausible idea Arcadia.  Bury the book with other books and make sure to have a few that were the same in case the code book ever changed.  It's also possible that they had more than 1 code going at a time and certain things such as Chinese character combinations were the key to which book to grab.  So seeing the 15 and 1 together might have been a clue to grab the London A to Z and proceed to follow the code starting with those 2 numbers.

 

Sounds like a reasonable system -- but according to Soo Lin's partial translation, the message started right in with the first pair of numbers.

 

But yeah, OK, I guess I can buy it that Van Coon and Lukis made sure to have plenty of books around as camouflage.  Maybe the Tong even told them to do so.

 

 

As I was trying to say (and wasn't clear enough apparently) the message started with the numbers but the numbers also could have told them which book.  So the 15 and 1 meant dead man but also told them to look in London A to Z.  If the code had started with 2 other numbers, then they might have picked a different book from their collection.

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That brown thing, which was explained above, must have been during the last stages of filming the best man speech, when it had come down to a sticking plaster from the elastic surgical tape on the sprain, because in the whole sequence of the speech, even before that, during his telephone conversation with Mycroft, that shirt cuff and sleeve always come down to his hand. His dresser must have had to secure them in place with needle and thread in order to keep it from view. That Live long and prosper wish for BC should include Mind how you go, to avoid any personal injuries, however minor, during filming!

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The brown sticker on Sherlock's wrist to catch the sound of the glass falling from his hand.. They forgot to somehow blurr or cut that out.

 

Also the scene were Mary runs after Sherlock and John during her wedding reception. Her viel is shown flying thru the air as if she already took off running, but then they cut to her still sitting then she takes off running. They really Really really should have caught that.

 

There's also the mistake in the Hound of Baskerville, the shadow of a person / possibly a camera guy, appears on the door that John is trying to get out of in the lab, but his access card is being denied. At 1st I thought it was Sherlock's shadow, but then that wouldn't have made since.

 

Nothing was needed on Sherlock to catch the sound of falling glass.  That's what sound effects and sound editing are for. No actor's participation necessary.  

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