Series 3 Filming News

[bborchar]

LOL, Moffat and Gatiss are the biggest trolls ever.  They threw out a ton of different possibilities today, some of which were just insanely off the wall (and hilarious).  Especially this one:

 

 

John is hypnotized when he is hit by the bike LMAO.

 

 

Awesome, can't wait to see what's real and what's not now

[Carol the Dabbler]

Sounds interesting, but I'm not finding that with Google.  Could you post a link?  Thanks!

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

So many theories and many of them very well researched and thought out as on the this forum. It will indeed be interesting to find out just how close AllIn1, bborchar, and the others are because we all know how much Moffat and Gatiss love to keep us guessing. But I think the "bad cop" in the pink shirt should be pretty close just for continuity sake. And there is going to have to be some kind of back story to explain it all in "The Empty Hearse".

[bborchar]

Sounds interesting, but I'm not finding that with Google.  Could you post a link?  Thanks!

 

Here you go:

 

 

http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Benedict+Cumberbatch/Martin+Freeman+Dr+Watson+filming+Sherlock/VS-xyBjo2CO

 

Absolutely hilarious when you scroll through it.

 

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

Got to love how they keep us all on our toes and guessing and theorizing. But it's fun to do.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Thanks!

 

I'd better not stay up and go through all of these tonight, but will have a look tomorrow.  Good photos, or actually screencaps I guess.  Don't offhand see any reference to Moftiss coming up with it, though -- looks like it could have been posted by a fan.

 

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

According to Sherlockology, S3Ep1 is now finished filming and should now be going into post production. So the filming of Ep2 should be starting up very soon. The the director is Colm McCarthy.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Right.  Here it is from Sherlockology:

 

 

 

Principal photography has completed on Sherlock S3E1: The Empty Hearse, after four weeks of filming which began on Monday March 18 2013. The episode is written by Mark Gatiss and directed by Jeremy Lovering.

 

During the past month, the production returned to Cardiff, Newport and Bristol - used in both previous series - to film exterior and interior locations for the episode, as well as making a first trip to Cheltenham for two days of work. Filming culminated with an intensive six day schedule in London, including a return visit to Speedy’s Café in North Gower Street to capture scenes around the iconic front door of 221B Baker Street.

 

Barring any additional pick-up shooting in the future, The Empty Hearse will now enter post-production.

 

Next on the filming schedule is Sherlock S3E2: The Sign of Three, written by Stephen Thompson and directed by Colm McCarthy, which will begin production soon.

 

 

[Carol the Dabbler]

Hmm, let's see -- this reveals neither filming locations nor plot details, so OK, let 'er rip:

 

From Sherlock composer Michael Price's Twitter:

 

 

 

#Sherlock readthrough today. Now what was it? Rat. something. Bow. Hmm …

 

[Julia Mae]

So many theories and many of them very well researched and thought out as on the this forum. It will indeed be interesting to find out just how close AllIn1, bborchar, and the others are because we all know how much Moffat and Gatiss love to keep us guessing. But I think the "bad cop" in the pink shirt should be pretty close just for continuity sake. And there is going to have to be some kind of back story to explain it all in "The Empty Hearse".

 

I just posted a MAJOR SPOILER (I don't know how to hide something in these threads yet and this is really - well - ) and right now, Allin1 has had to toss out a lot of theory.  Not just survive the fall theory, but character/plot theory.

 

I'm a bit speechless now.  Hard to believe, I know.  (Carol, if you look at this and don't want to discuss it here, I have comments enabled.)

 

[Julia Mae]

Oh yeah.  There's a pic of the stuntman in the helmet in this post - near the bottom.

[bborchar]

 

So many theories and many of them very well researched and thought out as on the this forum. It will indeed be interesting to find out just how close AllIn1, bborchar, and the others are because we all know how much Moffat and Gatiss love to keep us guessing. But I think the "bad cop" in the pink shirt should be pretty close just for continuity sake. And there is going to have to be some kind of back story to explain it all in "The Empty Hearse".

 

I just posted a MAJOR SPOILER (I don't know how to hide something in these threads yet and this is really - well - ) and right now, Allin1 has had to toss out a lot of theory.  Not just survive the fall theory, but character/plot theory.

 

I'm a bit speechless now.  Hard to believe, I know.  (Carol, if you look at this and don't want to discuss it here, I have comments enabled.)

 

 

 

I would be any money that they filmed that to throw people off.  Give people a puzzle and watch them dance

[Julia Mae]

 

 

So many theories and many of them very well researched and thought out as on the this forum. It will indeed be interesting to find out just how close AllIn1, bborchar, and the others are because we all know how much Moffat and Gatiss love to keep us guessing. But I think the "bad cop" in the pink shirt should be pretty close just for continuity sake. And there is going to have to be some kind of back story to explain it all in "The Empty Hearse".

 

I just posted a MAJOR SPOILER (I don't know how to hide something in these threads yet and this is really - well - ) and right now, Allin1 has had to toss out a lot of theory.  Not just survive the fall theory, but character/plot theory.

 

I'm a bit speechless now.  Hard to believe, I know.  (Carol, if you look at this and don't want to discuss it here, I have comments enabled.)

 

 

 

I would be any money that they filmed that to throw people off.  Give people a puzzle and watch them dance

 

 

That occurred to me, also.  I was hoping someone else would independently come up with the same thought - so thank you for saying so!  (Also, it's not necessarily filmed at all.  The pics are fan shots, afaik.  Possibly a set-up for people who post #setlock.)

 

 

[Carol the Dabbler]

That's what I'm thinking -- plus, how do you tell the difference between, e.g., Cumberbatch and Sherlock?  None of that looks particularly conclusive to me, so I think I'll just ignore it for now, so I don't get irreparably confused.  Might come back and have another look after I've actually watched the episodes, to see what panned out.

 

[Carol the Dabbler]

I would be any money that they filmed that to throw people off.  Give people a puzzle and watch them dance

I've also seen similar conjectures on another forum today.

[Julia Mae]

 

I would be any money that they filmed that to throw people off.  Give people a puzzle and watch them dance

I've also seen similar conjectures on another forum today.

 

 

Good.  When I used to post on The Leaky Cauldron (original version) about Harry Potter while the books were in the process of being written, every once in a while Jo Rowling would make some public announcement to counter what we were figuring out in the forums.  (I should probably mention it was the largest internet community ever to exist at that time - or since - so what was posted there was very widely distributed.)  I won't say she lied, exactly, but she would say very deliberately misleading things.  Well, okay, some would have to be called lies, like "Voldemort never made Harry a horcrux."  I guess we can debate if that's a lie or not depending on intent, but you see how motivated she was to try and keep some suspense. 

 

I don't think Moftiss are less motivated.  We didn't have Twitter back in the day, as I recall, and now, things just spread like wildfire. 

 

Oh yeah - so now that we have discussed it, I'll be taking the page off my blog, but could one of y'all tell me how to post a spoiler box thing so I can just put that sort of thing here safely? 

[bborchar]

When I saw the hypnotist, I knew they were messing with us.  Although it WAS hilarious- and if they DO manage to work that into the actual show, I will be utterly impressed.  I don't think Moriarty is alive, though- I think it's a great way to keep people guessing for a long time, however.  They knew that people were taking pictures, videos, etc- so they had fun with it.  And I applaud them for doing so

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

I think it's a great way to keep people guessing for a long time, however.  They knew that people were taking pictures, videos, etc- so they had fun with it.  And I applaud them for doing so

Exactly. The more people are going to try and film them filming and then post it on what ever forum, such as Youtube, one would expect Gatiss and company to take counter measures just to keep things secret and confuse the spoilers. Especially since they had asked over and over again for people not to do it.

 

[Carol the Dabbler]

... could one of y'all tell me how to post a spoiler box thing so I can just put that sort of thing here safely?

 

Posting in a spoiler box is simple:

 

Whatever you want to say.

 

HOWEVER, please remember that, even in a spoiler box, a spoiler is still a spoiler. The boxes are fine for minor things that the truly squeamish don't want to know till the new episodes are aired, BUT please don't consider a spoiler box to constitute carte blanche for posting the sort of things that Sue Vertue asked us not to proliferate. So please, no advance notice of filming locations, and no plot giveaways.

 

I will admit there's a pretty fine line between plot giveaways and conjectures based on observation -- especially with the apparent shenanigans on set of late. But we can make a good-faith effort. (And if there's something you simply must discuss, you can always use private messages.)

 

Thank you.

[Julia Mae]

 

 

Posting in a spoiler box is simple:

 

Whatever you want to say.

 

 

 

 

Ah, thanks so much.  I know some people, like my daughter, don't want to see anything from a favorite show until it airs.  I don't mind seeing a picture or two, as long as it doesn't give away actual plot points.  It's important to respect everyone's individual take on the matter. 

[Carol the Dabbler]

 

 

... some people, like my daughter, don't want to see anything from a favorite show until it airs.  I don't mind seeing a picture or two, as long as it doesn't give away actual plot points.  It's important to respect everyone's individual take on the matter.

 

I'm like you, I enjoy seeing some pictures, but if someone had snuck up behind me the first time I watched "Scandal" and -- as Irene's executioner lifted his scimitar -- whispered, "That's actually Sherlock, and he's gonna save her," I would have asked to borrow the scimitar!

 

Of course, some plot points are foregone conclusions, considering the source material.  How else could an episode titled "The Reichenbach Fall" possibly end?

 

So far, from location photos on various sites, I've pieced together a few bits of "what happens" -- but in general I have no way of knowing what the sequence of events is, or (even more important) why these things are happening.  So it's kind of like a movie trailer, intriguing but not terribly informative.

 

[Carol the Dabbler]

Regarding the suspicious activities on set, even the media are starting to wonder.  One tabloid asked, "Is it the truth, or are we just seeing a red herring in this tangled mystery?"

 

And -- forgive me, Sue Vertue! -- I can't resist quoting one fan's conjecture about how they might actually use that footage (which is a possible spoiler! if you haven't been following this):

 

 

Sherlock sits down in a chair, cross-legged, as an angry John Watson stands open-mouthed and spluttering before him.

JOHN:
But... you were... how? How did you do it, Sherlock?

SHERLOCK:
How do you think I did it?

We see Sherlock and Molly dragging a corpse to the ledge, and Sherlock pulls out a rubber Sherlock mask.

Perhaps I used a face-mask on a preprepared corpse?

We see the guy who bumped into John Watson blow some dust in his face.

Or used some drug to induce hallucinations that made you think it was me?

Finally, we see Derren Brown run up to John in the middle of the street, and hypnotise him.

Or maybe I had some celebrity hypnotise you?

Back to Sherlock, looking smug.

I'm afraid it was none of those things, John. It was much simpler than that...

 

 

[Julia Mae]

 

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So far, from location photos on various sites, I've pieced together a few bits of "what happens" -- but in general I have no way of knowing what the sequence of events is, or (even more important) why these things are happening.  So it's kind of like a movie trailer, intriguing but not terribly informative.

 

 

Yes, the way the trick is done is also to me far less interesting than the motivations and relationships amongst the characters. I want to know about Carl Powers, I want to know why the killer cabbie seemed to hate Sherlock.  I want to know what happened to his parents that made it necessary for Mycroft to "play mother" for most of Sherlock's childhood.  I want to know who James' sibling is, regardless of gender.

 

What I am most interested to see when it returns, is how Sherlock's character arc changes in relation to what happened. 

[Carol the Dabbler]

We may or may not hear any more about Carl Powers, Jeff the cabbie, or the potential Mystery Moriarty.  My impression from watching the show, by the way, is that Jeff didn't hate Sherlock, but rather considered him to be an interesting intellectual challenge -- something like Moriarty's attitude, but without the blatant hostility.

 

I strongly suspect that we'll see a somewhat different dynamic between the Holmes brothers (assuming that they've been collaborating on Sherlock's "non-existence").  And definitely a changed -- or at least intensified -- dynamic between Sherlock and John, which is what I'm most eager to see.  As for "how he did it," an interesting twist would be fun, but as long as they don't insult my intelligence, whatever he did is fine with me.

 

[bborchar]

 

 

...

So far, from location photos on various sites, I've pieced together a few bits of "what happens" -- but in general I have no way of knowing what the sequence of events is, or (even more important) why these things are happening.  So it's kind of like a movie trailer, intriguing but not terribly informative.

 

 

Yes, the way the trick is done is also to me far less interesting than the motivations and relationships amongst the characters. I want to know about Carl Powers, I want to know why the killer cabbie seemed to hate Sherlock.  I want to know what happened to his parents that made it necessary for Mycroft to "play mother" for most of Sherlock's childhood.  I want to know who James' sibling is, regardless of gender.

 

What I am most interested to see when it returns, is how Sherlock's character arc changes in relation to what happened. 

 

 

Not sure if you have seen the DVD commentaries at all?  In SIB, they say that the scene at the beginning between Mycroft and Sherlock (after the explosion) was much longer, but that they cut out a very important part of his backstory- and while Benedict couldn't say what it was, he strong hinted that Sherlock might have discovered his dad having an affair at some point.  Now, they may or may not ever put that back in- but it was interesting to hear that the scene had more to it at some point