Sherlock's relationship with women

[Arcadia]

Indeed. Though admittedly: Would Sherlock know what it really is like to have a sister? I feel his relation to Mycroft wouldn't necessarily introduce him to this special kind of friendship/love that connects siblings and that makes their relation different to that of "just friends".

Unless "the other one" is/was a sister...

[SherlockedCAMPer]

Sherlock might understand to a degree brotherly love and automatically translate that over to sisterly love.  He gets the chemistry side of love even if the psycho/social side he doesn't really get into.

[jesskayding]

 

Indeed. Though admittedly: Would Sherlock know what it really is like to have a sister? I feel his relation to Mycroft wouldn't necessarily introduce him to this special kind of friendship/love that connects siblings and that makes their relation different to that of "just friends".

Unless "the other one" is/was a sister...

 

 

 

Arcadia are you implying Molly could be the other one. I don't think so, but that would be awfully funny. Talk about ruffling Sherlollier's feathers! Haaaaaaa ha ha haaaaaaah

[SherlockedCAMPer]

It might not be that Molly is the other one just that the other one was female instead of male.

[Arcadia]

Arcadia are you implying Molly could be the other one. I don't think so, but that would be awfully funny. Talk about ruffling Sherlollier's feathers! Haaaaaaa ha ha haaaaaaah

Nope!  

 

It might not be that Molly is the other one just that the other one was female instead of male.

Yep! :)

[jesskayding]

Well thanks for clearing that up. I would love for the other one to be female.

[Carol the Dabbler]

They seemed to be awfully careful NOT to say "brother."  So I wouldn't be t'all surprised.

 

[T.o.b.y]

I want the other one to be dead. And stay dead. I really do not need another Holmes genius. Mycroft is quite enough on the sibling front if you ask me.

 

I've been wondering about Mrs Hudson. From the beginning, she is the person Sherlock is most "human" with, most warm and affectionate. He hugs and kisses her the very first time we see them together. Now, I wonder. Sherlock's Mummy seems to be a perfectly nice, warm, motherly kind of person. So why doesn't he have that kind of relationship with her? Why does he need a surrogate in the shape of his landlady?

[Arcadia]

I've wondered that too, it's a charming quirk but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense in context with everything else. Oh well, I'll take the charm anytime!

[SherlockedCAMPer]

I want the other one to be dead. And stay dead. I really do not need another Holmes genius. Mycroft is quite enough on the sibling front if you ask me.

 

I've been wondering about Mrs Hudson. From the beginning, she is the person Sherlock is most "human" with, most warm and affectionate. He hugs and kisses her the very first time we see them together. Now, I wonder. Sherlock's Mummy seems to be a perfectly nice, warm, motherly kind of person. So why doesn't he have that kind of relationship with her? Why does he need a surrogate in the shape of his landlady?

 

Maybe it has something to do with the following lines (a possible back story that we'll probably never get) :

Mrs. Hudson: Your mother has a lot to answer for.

Sherlock: I know. I have a list. Mycroft has a file.

[Schlauer Fuchs]

My 2 cents: Maybe it's also because his mother is even too tender and caring for Sherlock. I could imagine that he always longed to be at eye level with his big brother as regards intellect and being "grown up", he hated being the stupid little brother. So maybe he didn't like his mother treating him like a child because he wanted to be the "big boy" in the house. So he might have come to consider her caring manner and cuddling as "a cross I have to bear." Just think of how he recoils when she tries to touch his face on the LesMis-visit.

Mrs Hudson is motherly in some respect, but she is also "different," not "ordinary," she tells him off when she wants to and doesn't pamper him. She accepts he is an extraordinary "funny old head," a position/role he might always have tried to achieve in his family.

[Pamela]

Another penny:  I think we're agreed that Sherlock is somewhat juvenile with respect to his parents.  I can remember (I have a long memory) when I was much younger I could relate better to other people's parents than my own.  It somehow seemed "cooler."  And of course, when you're a teenager, anybody, just anybody, is way cooler than one's own parents.

 

Come to think of it, Mrs. Hudson is more of a grandmother figure than a mother figure.

[Arcadia]

My 2 cents: Maybe it's also because his mother is even too tender and caring for Sherlock. I could imagine that he always longed to be at eye level with his big brother as regards intellect and being "grown up", he hated being the stupid little brother. So maybe he didn't like his mother treating him like a child because he wanted to be the "big boy" in the house. So he might have come to consider her caring manner and cuddling as "a cross I have to bear." Just think of how he recoils when she tries to touch his face on the LesMis-visit.

Mrs Hudson is motherly in some respect, but she is also "different," not "ordinary," she tells him off when she wants to and doesn't pamper him. She accepts he is an extraordinary "funny old head," a position/role he might always have tried to achieve in his family.

 

 

Another penny:  I think we're agreed that Sherlock is somewhat juvenile with respect to his parents.  I can remember (I have a long memory) when I was much younger I could relate better to other people's parents than my own.  It somehow seemed "cooler."  And of course, when you're a teenager, anybody, just anybody, is way cooler than one's own parents.

 

Come to think of it, Mrs. Hudson is more of a grandmother figure than a mother figure.

Oooo, excellent observations, I'm stealing them for my own!

Some grandparents tend to tolerate more behaviors than parents do, too; that would certainly appeal to Sherlock. Something tells me that Mrs. Hudson's reaction to bullet holes in her wall was a lot milder than Mummy Holmes' would have been!

[jesskayding]

I want the other one to be dead. And stay dead. I really do not need another Holmes genius. Mycroft is quite enough on the sibling front if you ask me.

 

I've been wondering about Mrs Hudson. From the beginning, she is the person Sherlock is most "human" with, most warm and affectionate. He hugs and kisses her the very first time we see them together. Now, I wonder. Sherlock's Mummy seems to be a perfectly nice, warm, motherly kind of person. So why doesn't he have that kind of relationship with her? Why does he need a surrogate in the shape of his landlady?

 

Why assume would be a genius?

[Arcadia]

Good point. He could be the family idiot! (Must be a clergyman!     )

[SherlockedCAMPer]

We also have to remember that Sherlock's dad refers to himself as a moron in comparison to his wife being a genius.  So it is possible that any possible 3rd sibling could be lower IQ'd than the Holmes boys.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Come to think of it, Mrs. Hudson is more of a grandmother figure than a mother figure.

Are you talking about the way she acts?  (I'm asking because she seems a believable age to be either his mother or his grandmother.)

 

[Pamela]

 

Come to think of it, Mrs. Hudson is more of a grandmother figure than a mother figure.

Are you talking about the way she acts?  (I'm asking because she seems a believable age to be either his mother or his grandmother.)

 

Yes, I suppose it's more their interaction that I was thinking of.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

Mrs. Hudson does have a certain grandmotherly way about her even though age wise she does fit in perfectly as his mother.

[jesskayding]

Hay somewhere around here on the forum, it was said in canon Dr. Watson marries Mrs. Hudson after Mary. Super gross right? Do you think they'd do that in this series, since extreme cougarism is in?

[Schlauer Fuchs]

No way. !

[jesskayding]

No way. !

 

Explain.

[Schlauer Fuchs]

Mrs Hudson like family to them. To Sherlock in particular, but also to John. It'd be like John marrying his grandma. And I don't think she's in any way the type of woman he is looking for. Sure, she somehow fits in his pattern, being somehow "extraordinary," but his wife "wasn't supposed to be like that" as he says himself and I really think that he means it. We don't know yet how his relation to Mary develops,  but I'm sure he wouldn't want her to get back to her former profession. He'd want to have a nice, quiet, calm home with a normal (but smashing) woman [i don't want to imply he's looking for an angel in the house, I think he's on good terms with feminism!]. John and Mrs Hudson would just be profoundly wrong.

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

Nononono....Jess....that wasn't canon....at least not according to Doyle. That was someone trying to figure out how many wives Dr. John H. Watson did have. We know that in canon he had two. I think Mrs. Hudson was a shot in the dark and a very bad one at that.

[jesskayding]

Are you sure about that Fox? They seemed pretty sure that Mrs. Hudson was much younger in cannon & that Dr. Watson definitely married her @ some point after his marriage to Mary. Don't get me wrong, I said above gross! I was just wondering if anyone felt that Steven & Mark would go there.?