The Hobbit (the Jackson films)

[Carol the Dabbler]

Hopefully the trailer is playing up the "epic" and "exciting" parts, in order to appeal to the mass audience.  Hopefully the scenes we want to see will be in there somewhere.  The battle itself is in the book, of course (though Bilbo is unconscious through most of it, so we as readers aren't subjected to nearly as much as Jackson will presumably show us).  And in the trailer, we do hear Bilbo trying to talk sense into Thorin several times -- so hopefully his cooler head will eventually prevail, as in the book.

 

And if not, I am definitely boycotting Jackson's 12-film Silmarillion saga. 

 

[SherlockedCAMPer]

When I watched the trailer it almost seemed as if Watson had stepped into the film. I realize that it is mostly due to Martin playing both Watson & Bilbo.

[Schlauer Fuchs]

Well that trailer definitely carries another mood than the one with Pippin's song in the background. This one relies on sheer epicness. I don't know what to think of it other than "looks like a Peter Jackson battle is coming". And I hope that he won't forget the quiet moments, those moments that carry a (the...) real message. But I have decided to trust him in this (or at least I try very hard to) and am looking forward to the film.

 

At 2:05 it looks to me as if the person in Tauriel's arms is wearing elf shoes, so I'm afraid this could be a "Legolas is wounded, all females in the audience please faint now"-scene

 

By the way, there is a trailer of the Extended Edition of DoS on youtube. And also some of the (deleted) scenes, if you want to check them out.

[T.o.b.y]

At 2:05 it looks to me as if the person in Tauriel's arms is wearing elf shoes, so I'm afraid this could be a "Legolas is wounded, all females in the audience please faint now"-scene

 

Grmpf, I couldn't care less. What I want to know is what harm they have planned for Gandalf. I can't confront that completely unprepared.

 

[Carol the Dabbler]

Don't worry too much ...

 

 

... they'll both survive!    They have to, 'cause they've already been in Lord of the Rings sixty years later.

 

 

[T.o.b.y]

Oh, but it's not just about survival! Remember the scene where Saruman shows his true colors in "The Fellowship of the Ring"? Ugh! I hate seeing Gandalf hurt. Any character I like, really. They can get wounded in battle, that's okay. They can get into trouble. But anything remotely like torture - that makes me feel sick.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Yeah, I see what you mean.  Anybody tortures Bilbo is gonna have me to deal with!  (Not that I'd be much help.)

 

[SherlockedCAMPer]

I'm watching the extended version if unexpected journey & (ignoring Martin plays both roles) I see some of Watson in Bilbo in terms of personality. It's probably some of how Martin delivers the lines I realize.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

And something else I found interesting...when Bilbo is trying to get past Gollum, shortly before he rejoins Gandalf & the dwarves, his look while the ring is on reminds me of any movie where they have a male lead in some sort of pose with the wind blowing through the hair a little just over all looking a tad bit sexy. (cgi can have its benefits )

[Carol the Dabbler]

I don't think it's all due to special effects!

 

[SherlockedCAMPer]

So my sister and I were discussing movie marathons as today we got quite a few inches of snow (1st snow fall of the season for my part of Minnesota & it's a snow storm).  A friend had on FB the estimated time frame of a LOTR/Hobbit marathon with a guess of The Five Armies being a minimum 185 minutes as an extended edition on release.  The total came in at 20.5 hours. My sister then decided to see if she could find other movie marathon time frames and found this site http://whatculture.com/film/10-painfully-long-movie-marathons-you-have-to-do-at-least-once.php (it lists LOTR's time without The Hobbit but does mention doing the full of Middle Earth once the final Hobbit [before it's name change] comes out).

 

Thought you'd enjoy & tomorrow my son and I might finish the final disc of part 10 of the appendix).

[Carol the Dabbler]

I'm still trying to decide whether to be sad or grateful that the Hobbit extended editions don't have as much stuff as LotR did -- just for starters, I believe there were three audio commentaries on each movie, which took a really serious commitment to get through.  One commentary would be quite sufficient for The Hobbit -- IF it included Martin Freeman.  It's quite understandable, of course, that nobody wants to fly literally halfway around the world just to do a commentary -- but it does seem that they could have worked out something via Skype, or else had an additional commentary with just the British actors (maybe even including that guy that did Smaug).

 

Added:  On the other hand, I'm so happy to have these movies with Freeman playing Bilbo (and what's-his-name playing Smaug) that I should probably just shut up!

 

[SherlockedCAMPer]

Yes apparently that guy playing Smaug showed up onset a few times to see what Bilbo & the dwarves were doing. He was in shorts & flip flops. & he couldn't do his line readings for Bilbo's green screen in the mine because of some Star Trek movie The appendix discs included with the extended edition that I have are an undertaking. My son & I will probably be finishing the last disc tomorrow.

[Alex the Dabbler]

After some major disappointment from seeing last year's Desolation of Smaug and its departures from Tolkien's book, I'm actually encouraged seeing the new trailer because it shows some bits of scenes that I consider imperative to the Hobbit story, e.g.,

 

 

Bilbo sneaking away from Erebor (presumably with the Arkenstone) and Bard preparing to fire a black arrow at Smaug.

 

Edited November 11, 2014 by Carol the Dabbler
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[Carol the Dabbler]

You're talking about this trailer, right?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVAgTiBrrDA

 

Took me a while to find Janie's post with that video, so I'll re-post it here in case anyone else is looking for it.

 

I had watched that trailer several times, but oddly enough, had not noticed either of the scenes that you mentioned.  Now that I've specifically watched for them (in full-screen mode), I can see why.  The important part of the first one (which occurs as we hear "Bilbo was right") is simply too small for me to make out without enlarging the video.  And the second consists of just two or three brief glimpses of the character doing something.  I do believe you're right about both, though.  So I'm happy too!

 

[Carol the Dabbler]

Alex has also reminded me of this video:

 

http://youtu.be/iRtpaFgrZ8E

 

Has anyone heard more about the live streaming they mention, of the movie's December 1 Leicester Square premiere?  Would love to watch that!

 

[SherlockedCAMPer]

Haven't yet. Hopefully soon. The FB page is active, but nothing on my notification about the London premiere.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

For those in the US with cable/satellite, TNT is playing the lotr movies with special looks at hobbit 3

[SherlockedCAMPer]

I can tell I have the hobbit films with behind the scenes when I cheer for carrot man in the first lotr. (It's Peter Jackson's cameo.)

[Carol the Dabbler]

I can tell I have the hobbit films with behind the scenes when I cheer for carrot man in the first lotr. (It's Peter Jackson's cameo.)

 

Oh, then you didn't recall Jackson's carrot cameo in -- uhh, one of the LotR movies.  Because of that earlier one, I recognized him immediately at the midnight showing of Schmaug.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

I haven't watched lotr very much since finding out what Peter Jackson looked like & then wasn't paying attention after that. But since last week watching the behind the scenes, I know what to look for.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Oh.  I had seen the backstage stuff from the LotR DVDs, and so was a bit ahead of you, I guess.

 

[SherlockedCAMPer]

A friend shared this video that Peter Jackson posted on FB yesterday.  I hunted it down on YouTube

 

 http://youtu.be/lvB_nsKXew0

 

Oh the feels (at least for me)...as if we didn't get enough from Moftiss

[Arcadia]

:cry: Darn it, I don't want to leave Middle Earth! I feel this way every time I finish reading the book, too ... wah!!!!!! :cry:

[SherlockedCAMPer]

:cry: Darn it, I don't want to leave Middle Earth! I feel this way every time I finish reading the book, too ... wah!!!!!! :cry:

 

Hence my comment on the feels.  It took me a several watchings to get over Frodo leaving Middle Earth at the end of Return of the King.  Then his smile seems almost sinister as he looks back at his friends.  However on the last watching, I noticed that they were trying to smile back.