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Sorry it doesn't mean the place/weather we are supposed to stay :p, my bad.

It's comparing us to weather XD.

 

To make it up, I found how b*tchy and classy we are and I have to agree to the result personally. :)

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First picture - ESFJ should be on the first group at best days and fourth group for the rest.

 

Second picture - Yep, and reading comics to stave off boredom that would cause us terrorizing the teacher on the first place. :P

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Chew nails? Have to keep hands busy? Me too! But I wonder, do you really chew your nails? I actually don't, I attack the sides of the nails, which is worse imo.

Been that way since I was young, sometimes it's manageable, many times it's not, especially when I'm nervous, in anxiety I would start peeling them.

 

Actually, I just got gifts from someone who knows me too well, fidgets. These are created for people who have restless fingers to keep you busy. I have all three.

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The first one comes with the most feature, but it's a bit too big to fit my hand ergonomically. Second and third one is more managable and quite fun although it's too early to tell if they'd help me.

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Oooooh, I want one. :wub:

 

I chew all parts of my nails. :( It's not nerves with me, it's just a bad habit. When I'm nervous, I pace.

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Chew nails? Have to keep hands busy? Me too! But I wonder, do you really chew your nails? I actually don't, I attack the sides of the nails, which is worse imo.

Been that way since I was young, sometimes it's manageable, many times it's not, especially when I'm nervous, in anxiety I would start peeling them.

 

Actually, I just got gifts from someone who knows me too well, fidgets. These are created for people who have restless fingers to keep you busy. I have all three.

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The first one comes with the most feature, but it's a bit too big to fit my hand ergonomically. Second and third one is more managable and quite fun although it's too early to tell if they'd help me.

I've seen the 2nd one on FB several times because of a homeschool page I'm a part of that is about homeschooling special needs learners and it was designed for those with sensory stimulation/fidget needs as is common with those on the autism spectrum.

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If you stare at the bottom one you start to see it in 3D.

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VBS, do you think any of those would work for someone who fidgety, but has serious memory loss and is virtually blind?

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I believe so, this actually works better when I absentmindedly play with it (means you don't need to look at it) and there is nothing you need to memorize.

 

It has features like switch (when you can play on and off), trackball like those old model phone, scroller, buttons, mini joystick etc to get your hand busy.

 

From short time playing with them, I'd say second one is probably the most practical one, they are compact enough to fit female's hand easily.

First one is so called the newer version with some additon and replacement of features but it's much bulkier (I think the comparison scale in the pictures are about right).

The third one is slightly different. It's a spinner, and only spins. Most probably you need two hands to play unless you have long fingers. It lacks other features but it's quite fun as well.

 

It doesn't completely replace my needs to keep me busy (as something is still missing: if only they had destroyable portion that grows back it'd be great! :p) but it helps.

Warning: could be annoying for non player. Some feature are silent (like silent buttons and joystick) but others comes with sounds (like clicking and scrolling) and from my personal experience, I normally do it in excessive and intense frequency so it's definitely could be annoying to others. The spinner is almost noiseless though.

 

Waks, long post. TMI eh? :p

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Not TMI, thanks, that's helpful.  And she's forever clicking her teeth together anyhow, so the annoyance factor isn't really that much of an issue.  (Might be a nice change of pace!)  The big remaining question is, would she "get" it -- or once she forget what it was (almost immediately), would she lose all interest and toss it aside?  Unfortunately, I suspect the latter.

 

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Not TMI, thanks, that's helpful.  And she's forever clicking her teeth together anyhow, so the annoyance factor isn't really that much of an issue.  (Might be a nice change of pace!)  The big remaining question is, would she "get" it -- or once she forget what it was (almost immediately), would she lose all interest and toss it aside?  Unfortunately, I suspect the latter.

 

Is there any activity that she used to do a lot that you might in part revive? Like if she used to knit, would it work to give her (blunt!) knitting needles and let her click those together? Or does she fold laundry if you give her some (whether correctly or not doesn't matter)? I've heard of former secretaries who liked to run their hands over a keyboard, too.

 

 

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I did buy some towels at the Good Will store recently, thinking that she could fold then next time she's in a "useful" mood, but that hasn't recurred yet. Near as I can recall, all her old activities (e.g., baking, sewing, embroidery) require vision and/or memory.

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I did buy some towels at the Good Will store recently, thinking that she could fold then next time she's in a "useful" mood, but that hasn't recurred yet. Near as I can recall, all her old activities (e.g., baking, sewing, embroidery) require vision and/or memory.

Vision is a problem, but sensory / motor memory might still work for her. For example, did she use to make bread, meaning, did she knead dough? In that case, she might like handling play-do. My grandmother had some that the physical therapist gave her for her arthritic hands and she said it reminded her of baking.

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That would require constant supervision, I'm afraid. She won't remember what it is or what it's for, and could do just about anything with it.

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You probably can tie the fidget toys to the sofa, bed, chair or any spot she patronizes often so it doesn't get lost, however, second and third ones don't have ring/extension for that.

 

Anyway, you got me thinking, so I did a bit of reading and found these things called twiddle muff, seems like something recommended by a lot of institutions for seniors.

 

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Links or you can just google twiddle muffs. Look like beside the pioneer products, there are a lot of creative/handmade substitutes.

 

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If you ask me, I'd say it probably work better, based on most times soft toys actually provide comfort and sense of belonging, the huggy feel it provides and fidgetings to keep finger busy. And I suppose she is mostly stationery, so being bulky make it more suitable because there are rooms to play with, and again, comfort.

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I think any number of things would work now IF she had been introduced to them earlier. But nowadays she doesn't even respond to stuffed animals, other than to ask what they are. She doesn't cuddle with them (even though she's very cuddly with people).

 

I've seen fidget dolls, aprons, and lap boards too. Unfortunately a lot of them seem geared toward people who can see. I hate to spend that kind of money and have her ignore the item (which seems likely). Sorry to be such a pessimist!

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I'm thinking of getting one of those for ME. I'm the twiddler in the family. If I start now maybe it will keep me happy in my dotage.... :smile:

 

 

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:D

I do all those brain teaser stuffs so that brain has its workout and hopefully never goes dormant. Not sure how effective it is though, I certainly have significant selective memory loss that is on annoying level but could easily move into worrysome level. I remember some stuffs in details, but completely forget others (no, not deleting like Sherlock, it's wiped out against my will :p), I could have zero memories of something quite significant.

 

Anyway, don't think you are pessimistic because I suppose you tried a lot of ways. Instead of spending, how about making the substitute of those twiddling stuffs.

 

Does she has a habit or a constant spot she goes to? Of course she has her bed and chair she always uses right? I'm not sure if it works, how if you attach something she could easily grab on those places. Maybe a sleeve, pouch, a string of beads or buttons, animal shaped fabric works, ribbons, laces or textures (embroidery works maybe like you mentioned she did those in younger years). I think some of these could be found in craft, souvenir, sewing, stationery or miscellaneous shops without blowing your pocket. (I actually have lots of them, if only I could attach those with pm).

 

You can temporary attach those stuffs with simple needle works or tie it with fabric strings (or other safe materials) on strategic parts of the bed or chair. If she loves to fidget, as you said, she can be conditioned to discover those on her own, instead of introducing those to her, let her find those herself, then maybe she would try to guess what they are and twiddling with them. You can change or rotate the stuffs to keep it interesting.

 

Hopefully, eventually she'll remember to always look for surprise or things to get her hand busy after a while.

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You're right, it's worth a try. I don't have the time to do anything fancy, but just something simple. Yeah, now just need to think of something tactilly interesting and relatively indestructible. :D

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Tell us how it goes!

 

 

Back to topic, not sure if I can blame it to my MBTI (I suppose I should, nobody else to blame :p)

 

My defense system is to forbid anyone sending me to the airport so I won't be sad. I fight and say quite hurtful things to achieve this.

My selfish action is choose to leave than being left.

 

I have to do these very often.

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Can't you just slip out in the middle of the night so nobody knows you're gone? :p

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Sarcasm? :p

 

Let me try to distract you.

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And trash on your choice of board game XD

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So what does the board game mbti even mean. I'm not sure how to interpret that mine is chutes and ladders.

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I assume that means it would be your favorite board game and/or the one you'd be best at playing.

 

My game is Battleship, huh?  Well, I have played it a few times, ages ago.  I think I enjoyed it, as long as the other players didn't try to rush me.  (I hate being rushed so much that I can actually do things much faster when I'm not being rushed.  But can my husband remember that?)  Actually, if I were choosing a game from that list, it'd be Yahtzee, Monopoly (if NOT played for blood!), Trivial Pursuit, or Scrabble -- whatever that means.

 

I'm pretty sure that most of these lists and quizzes are simply made up by people like us with too much time on their hands.  I used to know a newspaper art critic, and she told me how the personality quizzes that ran in their Sunday magazine were "developed" -- they all sat around drinking coffee and throwing in ideas.

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So what does the board game mbti even mean. I'm not sure how to interpret that mine is chutes and ladders.

  

 

I assume that means it would be your favorite board game and/or the one you'd be best at playing.

 

That is my assumption as well.

I believe it's the stereotyping of what your MBTI is. For example, mine, INTJ's keyword is almost always Mastermind, (I believe every type has one that is more prominent/show up the most), the stereotype is mostly associated with strategic, world domination (not me, too much work, too many people, too tedious :p) so maybe that's why they think it's appropriate that the boardgame is Risk.

 

Coincidentally, in term of favorite game, actually they are spot on in this. I love game like Risk, too bad I don't have boardgame playmates nearby so I mostly settle playing with AI (some actually more enjoyable without dice) I haven't checked for quite a while, but back then I had played almost every game like Risk.

 

Most of my long term games also has Risk gameplay element and strategy to..eh.., virtual world domination XD, like for example, I really enjoy strategic war game; civilization, gather, explore, expand territories, conquer with minimal casualties, or third person game when I control multiple characters with specific skills to infiltrate enemy base with specific missions, mostly to complete the mission I would still have to expand the territory and then take over everything, which is basically what Risk is.

But my elaborate game days are over because now everything needs to be in 3D and first person, I tried, they literally give me motion sickness, so nah..

I'm still into apps game although it's not easy to find decent one that I haven't finished before.

(Decent= free/'obtainable' :p apps and the ones without the need of networking/invite friend gimmicks-->hate those and not first person view).

 

So yah, see if your stereotype or keyword fits with the game they suggest.

 

Actually, if I were choosing a game from that list, it'd be Yahtzee, Monopoly (if NOT played for blood!), Trivial Pursuit, or Scrabble -- whatever that means.

I like Yahtzee too. Monopoly (what do you mean for blood :o?) not really, I don't really like that either the game drags too long or one bankrupt too fast when they fail to secure a property, I think luck factor plays a bit too much.

I love Scrabble like game, two versions Scrabble-type apps are surgically attached to my phone. It's easier to find real human nameless opponents around the world and requires little commitment (as I can ignore it for days if I don't have time and they don't mind).

Never played Trivial Pursuit but I think I'd be horrible at that.

 

I'm pretty sure that most of these lists and quizzes are simply made up by people like us with too much time on their hands.  I used to know a newspaper art critic, and she told me how the personality quizzes that ran in their Sunday magazine were "developed" -- they all sat around drinking coffee and throwing in ideas.

Oh yah, of course. Take it with a grain of salt. If it makes you happy by all means.

Some quizzes are better than the others, some make me angry just looking at their questions.

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Monopoly (what do you mean for blood :o?)

 

When I was a kid, we played Monopoly in a fairly relaxed fashion.  We did not plot strategies for bankrupting our opponents.  I was aghast the first time I played against an opponent who did strategize -- it felt to me like he was cheating, even though he was of course well within the rules.

 

 

 

Never played Trivial Pursuit but I think I'd be horrible at that.

 

Quite possibly -- it's highly pop-culture-dependent.  I do very well with the original edition, because it was apparently aimed at my generation.  Newer editions tend to ask questions about people named Kardashian and such.

 

 

 

Some quizzes are better than the others, some make me angry just looking at their questions.

 

I hate it when the questions are wrong.  Or are clearly making biased assumptions.

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