The Political Thread

[Surelock]

That says they don't know if it is a hate crime yet.

 

Fair point but I think it should be noted that the police haven't ruled out hate as a possible motivation for the attack yet.

 

So I guess it's more accurate of me to say it's a possible hate crime. 

 

 

There was also a hate crime a few days ago in the USA https://mic.com/articles/179691/jeronimo-yanez-verdict-officer-who-killed-philando-castile-found-not-guilty-of-manslaughter?utm_campaign=social&utm_medium=movement&utm_source=policymicTBLR#.Lao0oHBkV I'm angry and disappointed that cops keep getting away with this kind of thing.

 

I have a lot of respect for Black Lives Matter but when I read articles like this, it feels like their movement is going nowhere. 

 

I have trouble seeing how they can effectively challenge a corrupt legal system. 

[Fantasy Lover]

It's not only a corrupt legal system, it's institutionalised racism as well. Also, I just heard this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/19/police-operation-way-champs-elysees-paris/*sigh* I just doesn't stop, does it?

[J.P.]

The world will end with an outburst of laughter.

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/876833713811795970

[Arcadia]

And latest, definitely hate crime.

 

 

Finsbury Park Mosque: Man dies as van hits pedestrians

 

I am tired of so much stupidity and ignorance everywhere.

 

Yep. :(

 

 

 

 

There was also a hate crime a few days ago in the USA https://mic.com/articles/179691/jeronimo-yanez-verdict-officer-who-killed-philando-castile-found-not-guilty-of-manslaughter?utm_campaign=social&utm_medium=movement&utm_source=policymicTBLR#.Lao0oHBkV I'm angry and disappointed that cops keep getting away with this kind of thing.

 

I have a lot of respect for Black Lives Matter but when I read articles like this, it feels like their movement is going nowhere. 

 

I have trouble seeing how they can effectively challenge a corrupt legal system. 

 

 

All the more reason to try. What's that phrase: "Lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for?" 

 

The world will end with an outburst of laughter.

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/876833713811795970

 

You know I agree that Trump is a profound idiot, but I'm not sure I get the joke here. Is it because people thinks he's saying we just built it recently?  ??

[J.P.]

Yepp…

[Arcadia]

 

That says they don't know if it is a hate crime yet.

 

Fair point but I think it should be noted that the police haven't ruled out hate as a possible motivation for the attack yet.

 

So I guess it's more accurate of me to say it's a possible hate crime. 

 

 

Now they are saying it might be an incidence of road rage. Which isn't any better than a hate crime, I'm afraid. :(

 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-charged-with-murder-after-police-find-remains-believed-to-be-those-of-17-year-old-who-went-missing-in-sterling/ar-BBCQGIG?OCID=ansmsnnews11

[Surelock]

 

 

That says they don't know if it is a hate crime yet.

 

Fair point but I think it should be noted that the police haven't ruled out hate as a possible motivation for the attack yet.

 

So I guess it's more accurate of me to say it's a possible hate crime. 

 

 

Now they are saying it might be an incidence of road rage. Which isn't any better than a hate crime, I'm afraid. :(

 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-charged-with-murder-after-police-find-remains-believed-to-be-those-of-17-year-old-who-went-missing-in-sterling/ar-BBCQGIG?OCID=ansmsnnews11

 

 

And the parents of the 17 year old victim have rejected the police's suggestion that their daughter's death was road rage. They believe it was a hate crime.

 

I think it's funny that the police's reason for believing the incident wasn't a hate crime is given as, 'there was no indication of racial slurs'. I'm no lawyer but personally I don't believe racial slurs have to be the minimum standard to indicate racial bias. I think a lot of racial bias is subconcious and latent and I think most people have a bad habit of underestimating their own racial biases. 

 

Personally I think a lot of the people who feel the need to say, 'I'm not racist' actually are racist. I believe they're just underestimating their own biases. Also I think one of the reasons why a lot of African Americans are being shot by some members the police nowadays is because these police officers have a racial bias against them. That doesn't mean I believe all these officers go around making racial slurs but I do think there's a subconscious bias in their minds that even they themselves tend to underestimate.  

 

Personally I think you always need to employ a specialised psychologist in order to determine if crime was motivated by hate.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

My sister studied criminal justice at university and in the US there is a biased against black people in the legal system (from law enforcement through judges) even though there shouldn't be.

[Van Buren Supernova]

Just read another article about four years old boys accidentally shot himself in the face, and the statistic is crazy!

 

I am wondering who had the brilliant idea on the first place to make it easy for civilians to own guns.

 

And instead of being sympathetic with the grieving parents, my reaction was f u! for letting you toddler had access to the gun, or even keeping or not getting rid of your gun when you had child at home.

F U.

 

And this article is just another deJavu.

Guns kill 1,300 US children every year, study finds

[Arcadia]

Just read another article about four years old boys accidentally shot himself in the face, and the statistic is crazy!

 

I am wondering who had the brilliant idea on the first place to make it easy for civilians to own guns.

The Founding Fathers, I believe. It helps to remember that the Constitution was written at a time when they were establishing their independence from Britain; guns came in rather handy during the revolution. Although there's debate over whether the Constitution means it's okay for everyone to have a gun, or whether they were just establishing that America had to the right to have its own militia. And I seriously doubt they anticipated the invention of semi-automatics.

 

And instead of being sympathetic with the grieving parents, my reaction was f u! for letting you toddler had access to the gun, or even keeping or not getting rid of your gun when you had child at home.

F U.

 

And this article is just another deJavu.

 

Guns kill 1,300 US children every year, study finds

 

Yup. Sounds about right.

[Van Buren Supernova]

You mean it has been around since long time ago? Oh..

 

I don't know anything about American history. Yah, so I guess it's very hard to change things now?

[Fantasy Lover]

Well, you know what they say: old habits die hard.

 

Anyway, it seems Brussels just prevented a terrorist attack https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3847480/what-happened-in-brussels-was-the-explosion-a-terror-attack-and-who-was-the-attempted-suicide-bomber/.

[Arcadia]

You mean it has been around since long time ago? Oh..

 

I don't know anything about American history. Yah, so I guess it's very hard to change things now?

 

Very hard, especially now, because it seems like our country is so divided between left and right. :(

[Surelock]

So you know the 17 year old African American Muslim girl who was killed with a bat and had her body thrown into a pond and yet did not have her murder classified as anything other than road rage?

 

Well today, it has been reported that one of her memorials was set on fire. 

 

The police have caught the suspect but have stated, “at this time, the incident does not appear to be motivated by bias.”

 

Is this a joke? If someone set the memorial of a 17 year old African American Muslim girl on fire then how can bias not be a big factor? The police are a complete joke whenever bias is involved against African Americans.

[Arcadia]

Now it's on the national news, just saw the story.

[Surelock]

So today the FBI announced that the guy who shot at Republicans during a baseball game in Virginia was not a terrorist. 

 

Their reasoning is that he acted alone.

 

So what? There have been heaps of lone wolf muslim extremist attacks. Why can't the Virginia shooting be considered a lone wolf anti-Republican terrorist attack?

 

The shooter actually had a kill list of all the Republicans that he wanted to murder during the shooting. Yet he's still not labelled a terrorist.

 

I think it's clear now that most of the people in authorities are just exploiting the word 'terrorism' to justify interfering in Middle-Eastern countries.

[Arcadia]

Well, I think you'd have to look at that spokesperson's definition of terrorist. The way it was phrased, I'm willing to believe what was meant was "no ties to known terrorist organizations", or something like that. 

 

But anything's possible. That's the chief danger Trump poses, imo ... he's plays on the erosion of faith in our institutions.

[Van Buren Supernova]

The wall, health care, losing of jobs.

One thing good to draw from those:

 

That'll teach him how difficult it is to walk the frigging talk.

 

So stop talking from behind and filter it first.

[Surelock]

The wall, health care, losing of jobs.

One thing good to draw from those:

 

That'll teach him how difficult it is to walk the frigging talk.

 

So stop talking from behind and filter it first.

 

TBH I don't think it'll teach him anything.

 

One of the biggest problem with Trump is that many of his followers are willing to believe anything he says, regardless of how nonsensical it is.

 

Watch this video:

 

 

 

 

Trump basically said, 'I appointed corrupt bankers who crashed the economy to run the economy' and his supporters just cheered. 

 

Also Trump made a fallacious claim of those having more money knowing economics better which is clearly not the state in the US. The US has already been proven to not be a meritocracy. A lot of well educated people here are in poverty including professors. But in Trump's mind it has nothing to do with an unfair economic system. It's just because they're 'not smart'.

[Arcadia]

That's because he's not smart.

 

Meanwhile, the press is having a heyday with showing just how stupid he is:

 

He congratulates Scotland on Brexit, even though they voted to stay in the EU: http://reverbpress.com/world/trumps-foreign-fail-couldnt-even-get-scottish-brexit-results-right-scotland/

 

​He proposed a law that's already been on the books for 20 years: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-proposes-a-law-thats-existed-for-20-years/ar-BBD31gF?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

 

He drives a golf cart onto the green: http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/golfers-outraged-after-donald-trump-commits-golf%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98unforgivable%E2%80%99-sin/ar-BBD2SS4?OCID=ansmsnnews11The resulting tweets are pretty funny.

 

[Fantasy Lover]

The positive side is that he is being investigated for instruction of justice http://rare.us/rare-news/across-the-u-s-a/president-trump-responds-to-claims-of-obstruction-of-justice-hours-after-a-report-said-he-was-under-investigation/

[Arcadia]

I think that will be positive only if they convict him of it. However, I suspect they won't. Which will justify his claims that it's a witch hunt, further eroding our (collective) faith in the system.

 

Hope I'm wrong. But there's not a lot of smoke ... ergo, I'm inclined to believe they won't find a fire. :(

[Surelock]

That's because he's not smart.

 

 

 

 

 

Have you seen this old Trump tweet?

 

You know what would be scary is if he's actually telling the truth in this tweet. If this guy really has a high IQ then it would mean that IQ tests really are an extremely unreliable way of measuring intelligence.

 

[SherlockedCAMPer]

I haven't seen that tweet, but many people with high IQs have low to no common sense. Their thought processes would fail a logical fallacies test. (Trust me in that as my hubby has that issue on occasion)

[Arcadia]

I haven't seen any tweets unless someone posts them here or in the news.

 

Good point about common sense. It's not always related to intelligence, is it?