Benedict Cumberbatch News

[Arcadia]

I think it's more likely that he would note that Syrian refugees are fleeing terrorism, and are not automatically terrorists themselves just because they are Syrian. And perhaps wonder if our higher duty is to our countrymen, or to humanity.

[Inge l-w]

And because they are supposedly fleeing terrorism, they decided to create some of their own making? Humanity is very much an abstract ideal in the face of such acts. Our highest duty is to the children of our world, because they are the future. The rest is a moral minefield, especially where the Middle East is concerned, for longer than his entire life, actually!

Anyway, I was still a student back in on September 11th, but I seem to remember a very robust answer on the part of the victim country !

[Arcadia]

Syrians have children too.

[Van Buren Supernova]

Stereotyping is powerful weapon used by provocators.

Fall to that, they thrive.

 

There had been too many proves. Too many.

Should be enough. Yet..

Sigh.

[Inge l-w]

Bombs are not stereotypes! Tell that to all the religious or other kinds of fanatics of the world!

@Arcadia: children brainwashed from birth to believe that any non-Muslim is a legitimate enemy? That is what the Koran dictates, at least!

[Arcadia]

@Arcadia: children brainwashed from birth to believe that any non-Muslim is a legitimate enemy? That is what the Koran dictates, at least!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/14/how-muslims-around-the-world-condemned-the-paris-attacks/

[Van Buren Supernova]

Bombs are not stereotypes! Tell that to all the religious or other kinds of fanatics of the world!

@Arcadia: children brainwashed from birth to believe that any non-Muslim is a legitimate enemy? That is what the Koran dictates, at least!

High probability that the bombers are brainwashed and taught to stereotype their targets. Eventhough you are on the other side, don't think like them, it's too easy.

 

And friendly advice: Do your research.

[Inge l-w]

Dear VanBuren, define research in terms of Muslim studies: there are factions and sects, like all other faiths. I'm not going to go into details of Sunites, Shi'iates, Ishmaelites and the rest in a Sherlock forum. But none other explicitly tells its adherents that if others are not on their side they are all legitimate enemies, nor promises earthly delights to its martyrs in the afterlife, nor holds women so far down the scale of human worth.

As for Muslim leaders, it's in their best interest to dissociate themselves from such acts of violence, much like the SinFein leaders would dissociate themselves from the latest IRA bombing in the 1980s. And the victims of 9/11 legitimised torture in the interest of extracting Information by presidential order, used water boarding and other inventive techniques in Guantanamo, and generally did not sit on their hands waiting for another attack to happen.

I refer my esteemed fellow member to Max Friesch's Andorra theatre piece on discrimination and its destructive results.

Edited November 16, 2015 by Inge l-w

[jadpdr]

Sorry not to be able to distance myself from the fact that countrymen and countrywomen died in a senseless act of violence perpetrated acted by religious fanatics. Not even Hitler was able to devastate Paris, not even Krupp's Big Bertha in WWI caused such mindless destruction in the name of what? Religious freedom is sacrosanct, but so is human life in any religion except the Muslim one: if you are not a faithful, you are a natural enemy! Such an atrocity must have gained them a lot of enemies worldwide. Benedict should not only talk about Syrian waifs, but of European children left orphans in the wake of this massacre, not to mention the ones who died in it outright!

[Arcadia]

..... And the victims of 9/11 legitimised torture in the interest of extracting Information by presidential order, used water boarding and other inventive techniques in Guantanamo, and generally did not sit on their hands waiting for another attack to happen.

Using torture does not legitimise it.

 

... Religious freedom is sacrosanct, but so is human life in any religion except the Muslim one....

As you say, this is the Sherlock forum, and an inappropriate place for details. But even a cursory look at history shows that human life has been devalued by certain interpretations of all religions in all eras. There is nothing new under the sun.

 

Benedict should not only talk about Syrian waifs, but of European children left orphans in the wake of this massacre, not to mention the ones who died in it outright!

"I'm a Prince of Wales Trust ambassador, so I'm all about giving youth an education, a voice and a chance to not take the wrong road." -- Benedict Cumberbatch

 

(There: back on topic! )

[Arcadia]

This is about a year old, but it's new to me so I thought I'd share. Missed 4, but I contend at least one of the questions wasn't fair.... :p The Hardest Benedict Cumberbatch Quiz

 

[Van Buren Supernova]

Just a few point before I move on. Feel free to disagree.

 

Free indirect assessment, I think about me, nice. But sorry you are wrong. I’m a baptized Christian, but for over a decade I have practice..nothing. I don’t know what defines me. Agnostic, maybe. I don’t know. As troublesome as I am, as cliché as it sounds, peace may be my religion. Beside that, I am a curious person and like random discussions about anything under or above the sky with open-minded people, and some of those people are Muslims. Nothing bookish, but I learn quite a lot about it.

 

Not emphatic, in many other cases, maybe, in this, wrong, nothing in my post or anything suggest that I don’t care or feel about the loss of lives, pains and sufferings of this attack. That is ignorant conclusion but I am not offended. Why would I, you base it only on totally different thing. My family was victim of terrorist attack, but no, it’s not comparable and I don’t mean to compare. We were extremely lucky that there was no live lost, everything else can be rebuilt, but I know many people who lost much, much more; lives, dignity, sanity.

 

They are important factors, but put anger, misery and suffering aside, it was a strange thing, to see face changing, and suddenly, everyone was so full of hatred and condemn the said religion, vow for revenge and people are labeled. It’s very understandable, it’s human nature. But they fail to see that there are much bigger plots and people are used as pawn, in the name of religions and races.

 

Brilliant, but before you accuse me of harboring admiration to terrorists, think this, they have identify, manufacture and find a most powerful auto-pilot weapon that is so sustainable, as seen in history. I’ve read a quote once, sorry can’t remember the source, something along this line, If human were created without religion and color, they would still find excuses to harm each other. If mindset doesn’t change, nothing changes. Some people are helpless because they don’t have anything else to learn from, but imho, h stand for honest, educated people should know better. Too much expectation, could be.

 

What I drew from your posts, there seem like a very strong generalization that all Muslim teachings are bad, people from Muslim origin are most likely bad, they are brainwashed since young and Koran only dictates judgmental beliefs to other religion.

 

There were times, after terrorist attack, people go to street and randomly beat up random Muslims or race, targeting their anger to them. Do you think it’s correct thing to do, in the name of theory most likely, all of them are bad? I don’t believe you think so and so do I, some of the nicest people I know are Muslims too.

 

If you insist on your statements, there is nothing I could do, not that I would try again, because one thing for sure, nothing will come out from any attempt of discussion also, so I will leave it at that. It’s probably unfair (sorry if it is, really hope I am wrong) for me to think that your generalization is not limited to some statements in the forum. If I remember correctly, you are a teacher, a professor, lecturer. My words are hollow and my audience is me, but some of your students may look up to you and find inspirations from you, and nobody knows the many variation of interpretations from that.

 

To the topic (sorry for the derail, I'm not into it); I am sure Benedict Cumberbatch is very affected with this, as I believe he is a genuine kind-hearted person and he will do something. Not necessary a speech or public action, maybe a pray, donation, anything counts.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Concerning a non-existent astronomical phenomenon, my research based on hitherto posted material,

leads me to the inescapable result that it hails from an Asian country with a predominantly Muslim population, has presented itself as female but is not telling in the profile, is witty, highly intelligent but not empathic, ( a few hundred people dead in far-off Europe, why should that be a problem?), likes working with computers but not people, and may be a member of the said faith, feeling slightly affronted as a loyal adherent.

 

Moderator Warning:   The forum rules explicitly state:  "Users are reminded that discussion and debate is fine however personal insults and insinuations are not."

 

The above post amounts to personal innuendo and name calling, which will not be tolerated on this forum.  (My apologies for not noticing this sooner.)

[Carol the Dabbler]

This is about a year old, but it's new to me so I thought I'd share. Missed 4, but I contend at least one of the questions wasn't fair.... :P The Hardest Benedict Cumberbatch Quiz

 

Hey, you're way ahead of me!  I got ten wrong (out of 21), so at least I beat the 50% mark -- and of course did way better than the 25% I would have gotten from random guesses.  And what is their hangup on what year everything happened?  :P

 

So 'fess up -- which question did you consider unfair?

[Arcadia]

"How tall is he" --- I'm an Amurican, I don't do meters! :p

[Carol the Dabbler]

meters = inches / 39.36

 

Though I will say, all their answers for that one were awfully close together.

 

[Arcadia]

meters = inches / 39.36

 

Now you tell me! :p

 

[SherlockedCAMPer]

I got 19 our of 21 and I beg to differ on the answer regarding the ice bucket challenge.  I even re-watched it.  The other one I got wrong I'll give them as I haven't actually watched the show and went off IMDb's info.

[Arcadia]

I got 19 our of 21 and I beg to differ on the answer regarding the ice bucket challenge. 

 

Hokey smoke, you're right! I didn't even check. For shame!

 

[Carol the Dabbler]

So how many ice buckets was it?

[Arcadia]

6. Brrr.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

Apparently they are not counting the helmet or the one right after even though buckets was in quotation marks.  He was nominated by 3 people 2 times each according to his phone call in the video hence the 6.

[Inge l-w]

Dear Carol, Sincere apologies! Post has been edited accordingly to reflect forum rules!

However, I stand by whatever Max Frisch said about discrimination in his play "Andorra".

As for the quiz, it was not particularly difficult! Got the same result as SherlockedCamper, 19 out of 21.

[Carol the Dabbler]

As for the quiz, it was not particularly difficult! Got the same result as SherlockedCamper, 19 out of 21.

 

Show off!  ;)   (I'm just jealous of anyone who can remember dates.)

[Van Buren Supernova]

Cheers guys.  ^_^

 

I got 11, and most of them are from blind guessing. But at least I had watched the ice bucket challenge someone posted in one of the threads,  he is so adorable.