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To be honest, I liked Mary before she was an assassin.

 

[magnussen voice] That should be a T-shirt.

 

Back on Topic: I liked the Barbeque Watson scene. Yeah, that's what I'm calling it.

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Hayyyy! You know there was a part in that, where I could not help laughing, soooo inappropriate, but I'll share anyway. When he sat up and was like "help". There was like a part of his hair that was sitting straight up on his head & the face he made.... I lost it :rofl:

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Apart from the above, these are among my favorites:

 

  • The reunion scene. Especially Sherlock pretending to be a waiter, which drew out the tension while also being incredibly funny, and then of course his and John's reactions to each other.
  • Sherlock looking shocked and ashamed before apologising to Molly in ASiB.
  • Sherlock and John's row about caring and hero-worshipping in TGG.
  • The first mind palace sequence (HoB). Hilarious and creative!
  • Sherlock's panic when Henry's trying to kill himself, and his desparate and clever way of stopping him.
  • Lestrade sending helicopters and what-not to Sherlock's aid in TSoT :)
  • and of course, the best man speech, the rooftop scene, Sherlock fighting his way back to life for John... Epic scenes.
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  • Sherlock's panic when Henry's trying to kill himself, and his desparate and clever way of stopping him.

 

I'm also very fond of the way he stopped Sholto from "bowing to the inevitable" -- "We would never do that to John Watson."

 

Come to think of it, in that scene Sherlock isn't being clever in his usual way, he's demonstrating an understanding of human nature and emotions.  Of course, he's demonstrated that before, such as when he tricked the "widow" into talking to him in "Great Game" -- but then he was being pretty cynical and manipulative, whereas in "Sign of Three" he seems really genuine.

 

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Exactly! Another wonderful example, Carol, thanks. In both those cases (Henry Knight and John Sholto), Sherlock demonstrates a deep understanding of human psyche, which even goes beyond my own (not saying that I'm normally very understanding, just that Sherlock normally isn't!). He's such a complex character that it's incredible how such a man comes off as somewhat believable. And I'd say he is. Not with regard to his mind - "nobody could be that clever" - but his psyche, as complex as it is, is largely believable.

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Favorite scenes, angst edition  because secretly we all love seeing out favorite characters broken:

 

  • When Mycroft and John panic after Irene Adler "dies" because of Sherlock's drug habit (ASiB)
  • Irene Adler crying after being bested by Sherlock (ASiB)
  • Seeing Sherlock DEAD. (TRF)
  • John crying at Sherlock's grave. (TRF)
  • When John looks up at the stairway to 221B and you can hear wisps of quotes from the other episodes (TEH)
  • John almost being barbequed sounds kinda delicious
  • John and Sherlock about to "die" on the train and John confessing a zillion things to Sherlock (TEH)
  • Sherlock leaving the wedding early (TSoT)
  • P much the whole of HLV
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Favorite scenes, angst edition  because secretly we all love seeing out favorite characters broken:

 

 

Oh, that does not need a strikethrough ;) I do love that. I also love seeing them happy, but the sad/poignant/angsty stories carry more weight.

 

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Must admit I don't. I know that fiction needs conflict and I understand that characters must be submitted to hardships to, you know, have a plot, but there's little that gets me to drop any kind of fiction so quickly as unnecessary whupping.

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I'm gonna do my favorite scenes, 'brilliance' edition!

 

  • Introducing Sherlock whipping a dead body.
  • "Wrong" popping up on every reporter's mobile phone.
  • John meeting a scary stranger, who knows a bunch of stuff about him, in a remote location, at night. And then it turns out he is Sherlock's brother.
  • Letting us and Sherlock wonder for a moment if John is Moriarty.
  • Sherlock shouting "Shut up!" at the door bell.
  • The flight of the dead, and Mycroft telling Sherlock off for having been seduced.
  • The mind palace scene in HoB.
  • Moriarty showing up in 221b, and Sherlock having prepared tea for him.
  • The Richard Brook cover up.
  • Showing Sherlock alive in the very last seconds of s2.
  • Everything about the reunion.
  • Having Sherlock hear John's voice in his head while solving crimes with Molly.
  • Lestrade running from a major arrest-in-progress, and calling in half the force, because he gets a text from Sherlock that just says, "Help. Please"
  • Sherlock's reactions to John asking him to be Best Man, and the account Sherlock gives of the event at the wedding.
  • John wondering what on earth Sherlock is up to, when he sees Janine in Baker St.
  • When Mary turns around in Magnussen's office to face Sherlock.
  • All of the mind palace sequence in HLV.

I'm sure there should be an endless amount of others on this list, but I'm getting sleepy.

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Must admit I don't. I know that fiction needs conflict and I understand that characters must be submitted to hardships to, you know, have a plot, but there's little that gets me to drop any kind of fiction so quickly as unnecessary whupping.

 

For me it really depends on the situation, and the piece of fiction as a whole. If 'Sherlock' had started out with s3, or in the same dramatic mode, I would have felt that it was more of a soap, and probably wouldn't have loved it quite as much. Still, even for soap, it's really good.

 

I do love a good drama like The Reichenbach Fall and The Empty Hearse, but I'm also insanely in love with the warm The Sign of Three, and with the brilliant A Study in Pink.

 

Not sure what 'whupping' means...

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That mind palace scene in HLV ... that's pretty brilliant. I don't recall seeing anything quite like it before, at least on TV. It's about the best thing they've done, and that's saying quite a lot.

 

I think my single favorite moment, at least visually, is when Sherlock sprays then headbutts the CIA agent. I don't know why, but everything about the way he looks in that scene sends a thrill up my spine every time. And it's funny and clever and unexpected, too.

 

I love the transitional scenes in ASiB. The way they show the passing of time in that episode is exquisite, and some of the exterior shots are just stunning. Really movie quality, you just don't see stuff like that on the small screen. I'm so happy the cinematography won an Emmy this year, the appearance of this show is so special.

 

John telling Sherlock he was his best friend; lovely, sweet moment for John, funny and touching for Sherlock. I like all the emotions in S3, they add so much more depth to the stories.

 

And I adore Sherlock's youthfulness in the unaired pilot. He's so enthusiastic and bouncy! He's just pure fun to watch.

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Exactly! Another wonderful example, Carol, thanks. In both those cases (Henry Knight and John Sholto), Sherlock demonstrates a deep understanding of human psyche, which even goes beyond my own (not saying that I'm normally very understanding, just that Sherlock normally isn't!). He's such a complex character that it's incredible how such a man comes off as somewhat believable. And I'd say he is. Not with regard to his mind - "nobody could be that clever" - but his psyche, as complex as it is, is largely believable.

 

On "nobody could be that clever". I don't know, one time I was @ dinner with these couPles. The husbands were using these words in sequences, I was so lost... Then one the wives turned & said to me " what are they talking about, I consider myself to be quite intelligent and I can't keep up" the other wife confessed to being lost too & she's a PHD?

 

I learned later that one of the husbands had an IQ over 170! Is that even possible? & he truly is socially awkward. None of those men were as attractive & cool looking as Sherlock however, they were quite geeky.

 

Hay but in Sherlock world, you can figure out how to be cool & a socially awkward genius. :huh::smile:

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Must admit I don't. I know that fiction needs conflict and I understand that characters must be submitted to hardships to, you know, have a plot, but there's little that gets me to drop any kind of fiction so quickly as unnecessary whupping.

 

 

Sherlockandjohn -- "whupping" is derived from "whipping" -- it means beating someone up or punishing them severely.

 

Martina -- I agree -- though I suppose everyone differs as to what they might consider necessary whupping.

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Exactly! Another wonderful example, Carol, thanks. In both those cases (Henry Knight and John Sholto), Sherlock demonstrates a deep understanding of human psyche, which even goes beyond my own (not saying that I'm normally very understanding, just that Sherlock normally isn't!). He's such a complex character that it's incredible how such a man comes off as somewhat believable. And I'd say he is. Not with regard to his mind - "nobody could be that clever" - but his psyche, as complex as it is, is largely believable.

 

On "nobody could be that clever". I don't know, one time I was @ dinner with these couPles. The husbands were using these words in sequences, I was so lost... Then one the wives turned & said to me " what are they talking about, I consider myself to be quite intelligent and I can't keep up" the other wife confessed to being lost too & she's a PHD?

 

I learned later that one of the husbands had an IQ over 170! Is that even possible? & he truly is socially awkward. None of those men were as attractive & cool looking as Sherlock however, they were quite geeky.

 

Hay but in Sherlock world, you can figure out how to be cool & a socially awkward genius. :huh::smile:

 

 

That's amazing. Though I was thinking less of IQ and more of Sherlock's ability to observe and deduce... and so quickly.

 

 

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I think you're making a good distinction there, S&J -- if Sherlock's deductions were due entirely to his intelligence (i.e., logic), I doubt they'd be so rapid.  Seems to me they're due at least in part to flashes of insight, and then pieced together with logic.

 

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I can see that SJ and Carol. Now as far as the deductions, the writers make note that Sherlock feels like an attainable Heroe. Per you just need to put in a lot of hard work.

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I can see that SJ and Carol. Now as far as the deductions, the writers make note that Sherlock feels like an attainable Heroe. Per you just need to put in a lot of hard work.

 

Oh, so he actually thinks he can become a hero? I always thought that "I'm not a hero" talk was not quite true. Although he might not have considered himself a hero at all in s1. Probably not. But I'm starting to think he might in s3. Like Mycroft said, he considers himself a dragon slayer.

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Soooo... I think I can make my own endless lists of favorite scenes now after excessive re-watching. Hmmmm... Okay, I'll post the entire transcripts, okay? No, seriously, because I have nothing better to do tonight and cannot sleep:

 

- The first time John and Sherlock enter the flat at Baker St, and Sherlock's stuff is already all over the place, and he offers to clean up by transfixing some papers on the mantle piece with his knife

- The phone deduction

- The deduction about the lady in pink, from beginning to end ("Fun? There's a woman lying dead." / "Perfectly sound analysis, John, but I did hope you'd go deeper")

- The conversation at Angelo's

- The laugh in the hallway

- The pretend drugs bust

- Sherlock gets in the cab ("What kind of result do you care about?")

- The scene after John kills the cabbie (from "why have I got a blanket" to "I'm in shock, see, I've got a blanket")

- The ending of the first episode, where John and Sherlock walk away laughing

 

- John's row with the checkout machine at the supermarket

- Sherlock deducing that Van Coon was left-handed (I love all his deductions, basically)

- John shouting through the mail slot at Soo Lin's flat while Sherlock is being strangled

- It turns out John took a photo of the graffiti

- John and Sherlock's respective ideas about what a date is

- Sherlock turning up on John and Sarah's date (Sherlock's entire interaction with the two of them is just perfect)

- Sherlock showing up to rescue John and Sarah (he does have a flair for drama)

 

- Shooting the wall (actually any scene where Sherlock is bored out of his mind - I love those)

- The conversation about the solar system

- The scene at Bart's where Sherlock is a total asshole, from making John fumble his phone out of his pocket, to pissing off Molly and her new "boyfriend", to the deduction about the trainers

- The conversation about (not) crying at people's bedsides

- The pool scene

 

- Solving a case via webcam - in a sheet

- Tea at Buckingham Palace - in a sheet

- Irene in her white dress, smiling at the first glimpse of Sherlock Holmes

- "Punch me in the face"

- "Somebody loves you"

- "Hush now - I am only returning your coat"

- Christmas at Baker St

- The morgue scene

- The deduction where Sherlock realizes that Irene's coded email is about seats on a plane

- The scene on said plane, beginning to end

 

- Henry comes to seek help at Baker St ("Do please smoke, I'd be delighted")

- Sherlock and John acting like schoolboys when they get into Baskerville with Mycroft's ID and John's military history

- Sherlock's nervous breakdown after he's seen the hound

- The conversation in the graveyard

- John drinks the over-sweetened coffee

- The end of The Hounds of Baskerville, where John realizes what Sherlock did to him in the lab

 

- The Thieving Magpie

- Sherlock gets really annoyed with Kitty Riley

- Sherlock muttering "guilty" at the TV

- How Sherlock finds the location of the kidnapped children by analyzing the dirt on the kidnapper's footprint

- John punches the chief superintendent

- the "daring escape" using John as a hostage

- The rooftop scene

- The Fall

- The graveside speech

 

- Sherlock talking to Mycroft about John, the unacceptable mustache and "what life? I've been away"

- Sherlock's return, the moment when John realizes it's him and the moment when it fully hits Sherlock that this is "not good"

- Sherlock and Molly on the stairs after they've seen the train guy

- The Fire

- The scene on the train, both before and after they show the solution to the fall

- The conversation in the hallway before John and Sherlock go out to talk to the press

 

- The look at the empty chair after Sherlock has spoken to Mrs Hudson about marriage and friends and changes

- "Just the bride and groom, please"

- The speech. The entire speech.

- The proposal

- The game of "who am I" during the stag night

- Throwing Mycroft out of the mind palace

- The wedding waltz

- The conversation where Sherlock tells Mary she's pregnant and then sends the happy couple off to dance

- The ending of The Sign of Three (that one is among my absolute favorites)

 

- Sherlock at the drug den

- Sherlock twisting Mycroft's arm

- Mary shoots Sherlock and everything that happens after that inside the mind palace

- Sherlock trying to convince John to be calm and have a look at Mary's case

- Sherlock shooting Magnussen

- The good-bye scene on the airfield

 

... Wow, quite a lot, and I'm sure I've forgotten some...

 

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Oh, of course I forgot some. Like the scene with Janine at the beginning of His Last Vow, where John just can't get used to the fact that she's there and apparently dating Sherlock. That is so funny.

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Oh, of course I forgot some. Like the scene with Janine at the beginning of His Last Vow, where John just can't get used to the fact that she's there and apparently dating Sherlock. That is so funny.

 

John's just seething with jealousy. Lookie here --

 

Sherlock_S03E03_1080p_kissthemgoodbye_ne

 

^ when Janine first comes out of Sherlock's bedroom...

 

Sherlock_S03E03_1080p_kissthemgoodbye_ne

 

^ "You have a girlfriend?"

 

Sherlock_S03E03_1080p_kissthemgoodbye_ne

 

^And while Sherlock and Janine have a real steamy snogfest...

 

Do you feel it, guys? Feel the hatred. Feel the jealousy.

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Oh, of course I forgot some. Like the scene with Janine at the beginning of His Last Vow, where John just can't get used to the fact that she's there and apparently dating Sherlock. That is so funny.

 

John's just seething with jealousy. Lookie here --

 

I'm not sure that it's jealousy, exactly. Sure, it can be read that way. But remember how little jealous John was of Irene Adler - why would he all of a sudden mind about Janine?

 

What I think is that John's "this is wrong" radar went off. The whole situation was just so strange and unbelievable. I mean, Sherlock with a steady girlfriend is weird enough to contemplate, and then one like Janine? No offense, but she's about as suitable a partner for Sherlock as the original housemaid would have been for the great Mr Holmes in late Victorian culture.

 

Still, you do sort of have a point. I guess there is a bit of "you sure got over me quick" strewn in somewhere. Especially after John's first response when he met Sherlock in the drug den was "one month - that's all it took", meaning he had expected something like this after the wedding; he expected to be missed. And then his chair is gone and Janine is stomping around the flat in just a shirt, telling him where the coffee is. It kind of reminds me of my parents when I moved out: I thought they'd be kind of devastated and miss me all the time, but when I came to visit them the first time, they were on a kind of a second honeymoon and I did feel a bit miffed, albeit happy for them...

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... but while we are on the subject, I've got an even better John face:

 

Sherlock_S03E03_1080p_kissthemgoodbye_ne

 

This is exactly what I mean when I say series 3 courts a romantic interpretation. Sure, you can write this off as John already realizing that Sherlock is only manipulating Janine into letting them in, and that what we see in that picture is pure shock at his friend's callousness, but it is incredibly easy to reach a different conclusion.

 

I don't mind, actually. I think the ambiguity is fun.

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