Let's Play Murder

[Van Buren Supernova]

Maybe not one but multiple block of ices and kick the last one out. XD

Or she could still use one block and super-tiptoeing to reach the rope. Super tip-toeing is possible, I do that when I have to change a bulb because sometimes I'm too lazy to drag the ladder. :lol:

 

P.S If that fails too... ultra or uber tip-toeing?

[SherlockedCAMPer]

She was in a cistern like cave, rappelling when she got caught up in her rope accidentally hanging herself.  The puddle of water was left over from the last rain.

[Van Buren Supernova]

It could be very difficult for the neck to get entangled in rappelling.

Suggested position is body parallel to wall with perpendicular leg. The rope is almost always in tension because they are holding most of the burden, unlike climbing up, so it's unlikely that it would get loose around the neck.

Solo adventurer also always carries knife as part of their essential tools.

[Arcadia]

Maybe she was an idiot, to boot, and wasn't adequately equipped for her experience. :p

 

True story: last summer in Maine, two women went hiking in the fog, got lost, and called for help. Search & Rescue found them and took them back to their minivan. They drove off into the same fog, straight into the ocean, and drowned. Moral? Some people are just too dumb to live.

[Van Buren Supernova]

Maybe she was an idiot, to boot, and wasn't adequately equipped for her experience. :P

 

True story: last summer in Maine, two women went hiking in the fog, got lost, and called for help. Search & Rescue found them and took them back to their minivan. They drove off into the same fog, straight into the ocean, and drowned. Moral? Some people are just too dumb to live.

Yes, you are right.

Darwin's natural selection.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

How about this one: a victim found in a room the only clue is a safe and it's contents.

[Van Buren Supernova]

How about this one: a victim found in a room the only clue is a safe and it's contents.

It's Irene Adler's safe and no one is smart enough to say Vatican Cameo.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

How about the victim is not smart enough to understand what those 2 words mean.

 

And when I posted this, what came to mind was my first game of Sherlock Cluedo where Moriarty was killed in her flat with the candlestick (by Sherlock as I recall).

[Van Buren Supernova]

I have Cluedo but I don't have anyone to play with as I am staying far away from friends and family.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

If we lived a whole lot closer, then you would have someone to play with.

[Van Buren Supernova]

If Sherlocked is done in US, and you and I happen to go, please look for someone standing in corner holding Cluedo box.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

If I can afford it, I will figure out some way of getting there.  May end up driving as my passport is expired and I don't have an updated (technology-wise) driver's license to be able to fly from my state.

 

 

 

next murder:

 

You are tasked with taking out someone like a Magnussen, you are in a very public place with no cover (think Mycroft's CCTV watching everywhere) and you have to do it now.  What would you do?

[Van Buren Supernova]

 

next murder:

 

You are tasked with taking out someone like a Magnussen, you are in a very public place with no cover (think Mycroft's CCTV watching everywhere) and you have to do it now.  What would you do?

 

I am feeling monstrous today so I should take up this task.

Assuming you want it to be committed but get away with it, yes? Otherwise I could just blow his head off (nothing new under the sun)...

 

So okay, I have to get away with that. It has to be done NOW, but I take the liberty to think that he doesn't have to die now.

 

Well I have come prepared, the weather is reasonably cold today, I am wearing multiple layers of gloves with special gloves underneath and I have heavy duty neoprene under my regular looking sweater and coat. I am carrying a cup, like those takeaway cup, only inside that is layered with glass.

No caffeine today, so it's just warm water to help me with the cold.

 

When I'm working toward Magnussen, I casually open the lid in preparation of drinking the water, but oopss.. I am losing a bit of balance from the uneven road and ..the contain of the cup, which is very low in volume, splashes on Magnussen face/chest/leg/hand/body/clothes, whatever. It's very small amount anyway and clear, so it shouldn't bother him too much.

 

Weeks later, he is dead. Mercury poisoning.

No one will ever suspect the small common incident that happened weeks ago.

 

Dimenthylmercury, extremely toxic, has ability to pass through regular or even lab barrier, bio-accumulate and kills.... later.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

There is a double murder in the woods, the only clue is a group of ravens and a group of crows. (I feel like about now, just a bit)

[Van Buren Supernova]

Murder is the term used for flock of ravens and crows.

Your language is funny. :P

Seriously... clutter of cats? Peep of chickens..plump of ducks? :lol:

 

No nice murder here, Sherlock. It's still calm..peaceful..isn't it hateful?

[SherlockedCAMPer]

Murder is the term used for flock of ravens and crows.

Your language is funny. :P

Seriously... clutter of cats? Peep of chickens..plump of ducks? :lol:

 

No nice murder here, Sherlock. It's still calm..peaceful..isn't it hateful?

 

I agree and I've been speaking it for about 37 years.

[Shadow Dweller]

You are tasked with taking out someone like a Magnussen, you are in a very public place with no cover (think Mycroft's CCTV watching everywhere) and you have to do it now. What would you do?

I will wait for a group of people who might pass beside his place (look for their possible pattern of movements) and engrossed with themselves they would not notice a brief addition to their group. Once close enough, a micro bullet containing pure sarin (let's use five times lethal dose for someone his size) fired. The crowds around serves to slow down any attempt to save his life.

[Shadow Dweller]

Double post.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

You're in a room on the ground floor, the walls, floor & ceiling are smooth.  There is nothing to hang anything from and the only openings are the door and a small window that only opens 6 inches (approx. 15cm).  

The contents of the room are:

• a medium thickness rope
• a syringe (blunt tip)
• a small glass of water (the size of a disposable paper cup for rinsing teeth after brushing)
• a small pile of baking soda
• a small pile of sea salt
• a small glass of vinegar (same size as the water)

You have to kill the victim without it looking obvious, how would you do it?

[Van Buren Supernova]

At a glance, nothing is really suspicious here as most of them are common household items, wait..wait... there is a syringe.

 

Vinegar being an acid and baking soda being a base, mixing them together would create carbon dioxide bubble. Bubble injected into veins in quite significant amount might be fatal, but I don't think the amount here is sufficient, but... if the bubbles are injected or get into arteries, a very small amount will be fatal enough to kill, they would block or impede blood flows.

 

It wouldn't be obvious, because the cause of the death would look like stroke or heart attack. Killer only need to get rid of the syringe because again, it's not usual object, unless suicide scenario is introduced.

What about the mixing trace?

Baking soda and vinegar mixture, after it sits for a while, they basically neutralize each other and becomes diluted salt water, and salt in one of ingredients you have in the room. So the man only wanted yo enjoy a glass of diluted salt water, why not, it relieves sore throat.

 

What about the rope? I guess it's just for distraction.

[Arcadia]

The things some of you people know really scares me sometimes.

 

Not this time, however!!! Wasn't there a movie that hinged on a similar plot? :d

[SherlockedCAMPer]

Remember that the syringe is a blunt tip, not sharp like a hypodermic needle so it will be hard to use it to inject anything into the victim.

 

@Arcadia not sure. If there was, I never saw it.

[Van Buren Supernova]

@Arcadia I don't know that movie plot also, sounds like a crappy movie.. :p

I only know bubble kills, one of essential knowledge I need, and that mixing vinegar dan baking soda could create some sort of 'explosive' reaction because the nature of the substances. That's why I suspect that is the weapon. Not stealing plot from the crappy movie you watched that nobody knows XD

 

But I did hesitate on the blunt, although I thought it still possible to do some injection with it, apparently that is not what you are looking for.

Rope, nah.. too obvious and you don't want that? It would help to force lack of air scenario and then the victim is force to inhale carbon dioxide (result from the mixture) but I don't think it's sufficient. Too much fight, too much effort, too much trace, too much DNA. XD

 

How if the victim is forced to swallow or eat the baking soda, after that forced to drink vinegar/vinegar-water solution and those things reacts inside his digestive system and create some sort of internal fatal ruptures? The substance could be forced feed with the syringe too. Eek.

 

Can someone bring bleach? Bleach and vinegar makes good toxic gas.

 

 

(Disclaimer: I have never done anything funny with anything. I swear. I swear. Don't ever trace anything I said in anonymous internet forum. No. That is not me. These people force me to. )

[SherlockedCAMPer]

I've only ever mixed baking soda and vinegar in smaller amounts to make fun volcano like eruptions.  I like the idea of ingesting all of the substances.  I would include the sea salt as it might be a fatal amount of sodium with the baking soda that between it and the chemical reaction with the vinegar would probably take care of the victim quite nicely.  And I never said that you didn't have a weapon that would force the victim to comply or else without any visible damage (think Jeff Hope's technique in ASIP).

[Inge l-w]

But if baking soda and salt are there in sufficient amounts, you mix them up, dissolve them in the water, use the blunt-edged syringe to make your victim ingest them, then add the weak acetic acid found in vinegar and then wait for the hydrochloric acid in their stomach to build up, aided by the small amount which is already there, eating away at their innards.