Whose Death Could You Tolerate....

[Shadow Dweller]

Then let me introduce myself. SD, naughty girl who think that Molly is cartoonish because I cannot imagine myself act like her, ever. Perspective. ^^

[Arcadia]

I think I see an unholy alliance forming ... :D

[Shadow Dweller]

Mwahahaha... ^^

[sittything]

Molly is me and I am her and we are all together.... in our slobby clothes.    :P

 

[Arcadia]

Hey, I can outslob Molly without even breathing hard............

[SherlockedCAMPer]

I'm a jeans and t-shirt girl through and through even though I have some dress clothes.  It does not bother me to wear the same shirt 2 days in a row if I'm not going anywhere of importance the 2nd day.

[bedelia1984]

I hope they won't harm so much as a hair on Molly's head, but I suspect the writers are capable of the worst.

 

I'm still torn on Mary's death. For the sake of the narrative, if you removed emotion and John's well-being from the equation, her death and the death of their child, would leave John more free to continue adventuring with Sherlock. With a young child and wife at home, it doesn't make much sense for John to put himself in danger. Whereas, if he lost both, he would be a character with almost nothing to lose, and perhaps almost a death wish, which could make for more compelling plots.

 

But, when you consider the emotional ramifications, it seems awful. And also, there is this feel with Mary, in the show, that they (the writers) are comfortable having her around for a while.

[Arcadia]

I'm afraid that to me this is simply a non-issue. I don't think having a wife and child means John can't run around with Sherlock too. In fact, I think that's one reason they made Mary an assassin ... so it would be more "believable" when she encourages John to go and flirt with danger (not that there's anything "believable" about her being an assassin in the first place, but ...) And even without that, firemen, soldiers, policemen etc. have spouses and babies and lawns and suburban homes, yet still go out and do their sometimes very dangerous jobs on a daily basis. Does anyone think the worse of them for it?
 
I gather from the ACD stories that Holmes and Watson could go months and weeks without seeing each other. Even when "our" John was living at 221B, the writers made it clear he had friends, a job, and activities apart from Sherlock. They just don't show us those bits because ... well, it wouldn't be very much of a story, would it? John goes to work. John goes shopping. John goes out and has a drink with his friends. Dull! Boring! Predictable! :D
 
I do want to see John holding his kid and cooing to her, though. And Sherlock looking horrified by it.

[bedelia1984]

I don't think having a wife and child means John can't run around with Sherlock too. In fact, I think that's one reason they made Mary an assassin ... so it would be more "believable" when she encourages John to go and flirt with danger (not that there's anything "believable" about her being an assassin in the first place,   but ...) And even without that, firemen, soldiers, policemen etc. have spouses and babies and lawns and suburban homes, yet still go out and do their sometimes very dangerous jobs on a daily basis. Does anyone think the worse of them for it?

 

I do think that is all true to an extent, as Mary very much wanted John to show Sherlock it would still be like the good old days. The flip side was that one month after the wedding, Sherlock seemed to have decided John was moving on, and even gone off the rails himself as a result. I wonder if Sherlock might be more concerned for John's safety now he has a family than John is himself. I could see John still helping on smaller cases, and of course taking a necessary risk if a bigger one merited it. But then I also see John as the type to be consumed with new fatherhood. I wonder will we see a big time jump at some point (other than backwards to Victorian times).

 

I do want to see John holding his kid and cooing to her, though. And Sherlock looking horrified by it.

 

 

I so want to see this too, though I wonder would Sherlock be like a sibling to the baby and either adore it or be irrationally jealous? They are going to walk such a fine line with the baby storyline, assuming they go there, as they won't want to overdo it and change the tone of the show.

[Arcadia]

For some reason I can't get too worried about it; there's been oodles of TV shows where at least one of the characters has a family that we barely even meet (or never meet -- Mrs. Columbo, anyone? :D ) It doesn't have to be about that unless they want it to be about that.

 

Now watch them go and spend hours showing Sherlock playing with the baby, just to prove me wrong ... :D

[bedelia1984]

Now watch them go and spend hours showing Sherlock playing with the baby, just to prove me wrong 

 

 

Ha! Not sure about the Sherlock playtime, but given the connections of both her parents that baby is in spectacular danger of kidnapping. It's too obvious a storyline for them to do though.

[Arcadia]

I hope so.

[Shadow Dweller]

Mary Watson's. She's a liability. Her attachment is to John and she already proved that despite she likes Sherlock, when push come to shove she will sacrifice Sherlock. She's just like Mycroft and yet some people who despise the latter choose to like her.

[Arcadia]

Like me. Although I don't actually despise Mycroft, I just wish he'd leave Sherlock alone. Otherwise I think I might kind of admire the guy. But as it is, I just want to shove him out the window a few times.

 

I don't really think they're alike ... Mary was willing to sacrifice Sherlock to save her marriage. I think Mycroft does it to serve his country. I don't find either particularly admirable, but I do find both understandable. And Mary is the more selfish of the two .... but still, I find I want to like her. And I'm pretty sure it's because Sherlock so obviously does.

[sittything]

I'd take Mycroft over Mary any day.  It's odd, because I don't particularly dislike Mary, I just don't find her all that interesting.  Which I find odd because most people seem to have a strong opinion about here one way or the other.

 

 

 

 

 

[Arcadia]

I suppose if I were forced to kill off (!) either Mycroft or Mary, I'd choose Mary, for much the same reason .... the conflict between Sherlock and Mycroft is more interesting than the harmony between Sherlock and Mary.

 

On the other hand, it's nice to see a woman that Sherlock doesn't browbeat for a change.....

[jesskayding]

Then let me introduce myself. SD, naughty girl who think that Molly is cartoonish because I cannot imagine myself act like her, ever. Perspective. ^^

 I completely agree. Can't stand her character. Kill her off! :xmas:

[jesskayding]

I'm afraid that to me this is simply a non-issue. I don't think having a wife and child means John can't run around with Sherlock too. In fact, I think that's one reason they made Mary an assassin ... so it would be more "believable" when she encourages John to go and flirt with danger (not that there's anything "believable" about her being an assassin in the first place, but ...) And even without that, firemen, soldiers, policemen etc. have spouses and babies and lawns and suburban homes, yet still go out and do their sometimes very dangerous jobs on a daily basis. Does anyone think the worse of them for it?

 

I gather from the ACD stories that Holmes and Watson could go months and weeks without seeing each other. Even when "our" John was living at 221B, the writers made it clear he had friends, a job, and activities apart from Sherlock. They just don't show us those bits because ... well, it wouldn't be very much of a story, would it? John goes to work. John goes shopping. John goes out and has a drink with his friends. Dull! Boring! Predictable! :D

 

I do want to see John holding his kid and cooing to her, though. And Sherlock looking horrified by it.

 

All though I wouldn't lose any sleep over Mary's assassination. I think that's what should happen, she should be assassinated.   The most American Icon you lot have on this forum. Shoot I say just have an American police officer vacationing in Europe just have any main character challenge his authority... Yep that'll do it. What's sad is that that scene would be completely believable. 

[SherlockedCAMPer]

Maybe Mary can have some weird post-partum psychosis because of a combination of hormones and assassin training so she ends up getting section 8'd somewhere quiet and unassuming to the of the world.  And somehow through that whole process the baby becomes a non-issue without being cliched out of the picture. 

[Boton]

 

 

 

All though I wouldn't lose any sleep over Mary's assassination. I think that's what should happen, she should be assassinated.     

 

 

I would love to see Mary go down in a blaze of glory.  If only I could think of a way for that to work and also "get rid" of the baby in a palatable way.  Maybe the baby could go live with the Watson grandparents.

[joanneta1]

Mycroft over Mary! If anyone should go, it's the American former assassin, not the minor government official! Preferably no baby lurking in the background, because with the enemies the Holmes brothers have collected over the years, the poor innocent would be a prime reason to exert pressure on a distraught John Watson, and through him on the two genius misfits!

[Van Buren Supernova]

I have a bit of waiting time and the wonder of New Content button!

 

Strangely, I think I can tolerate anyone's death except Sherlock and John. But they have to make a very compelling story and justify it well.

 

I appreciate good TV death, even though I would probably just curl up in the corner and rock back and forth after that.

[Arcadia]

I thought you seemed awfully busy tonite! Today. Whatever.
 
I could tolerate the death of Billy Wiggins. Easily.

[Van Buren Supernova]

I always make good of waiting time by coming here, or meal, or between works, or anytime possible.

 

Bill Wiggins??? How could you... who would inherit his money and job?

[Arcadia]

I assume Mycroft will see to all arrangements.