How do you relate to Sherlock (the series)?

[Arcadia]

Not listening, nope, nope, not listening .....

[J.P.]

I deduced Santa too. 
Don't remember how old I was though

[Carol the Dabbler]

(Anyway, what is up with knowing Santa is not real=destroying childhood? XD Can't speak for others, but I was purposely told (and rub in the face) that Santa is not real and there is no use putting up sock hoping for present :lol: and my only reaction was laughed it off and moved on.

My father was a big fan of Santa, and I don't believe he ever said or admitted that there wasn't one.  The other kids at school started telling me Santa wasn't real in about second grade (age 7), I think, but I didn't believe them because I had a very logical mind.  Every time I asked my parents for some "luxury" item, they told me flat out that we couldn't afford it -- and yet, come Christmas, there it was under the tree with a tag saying "from Santa."  Ergo, Santa must be real.

 

[Van Buren Supernova]

XD

 

Then Sherlock must be real too.. he is smart, brainy, tall, good looking, with IQ over 190+ and get away with all the attitudes we wish we could get away with, expert in martial art, sword fighting, boxing, violin with dreamy curls and perfect silhouette, hands, forehead, nose and lips....

   

 

Okay..okay..

I give up. He is not real.

[Inge l-w]

After the Abominable episode, I find it really hard to relate to t h I s version, because, as Caya's favourite fanfiction writer, PlaidAdder pointed out in a noteworthy series of meta analysis, "the writers suck at casefic, and the particular episode was half HLV-fix-it and half "pukeworthy"!" I wouldn't go that far, but I cannot bear to watch it, same as TRF. It is so viscerally WRONG in all things Holmes, that I find I have to distance myself from it! Box office success or not, being suckered into buying their selection of ACD stories, as another famous character would have said: we're not in Kansas anymore!

[Van Buren Supernova]

After the Abominable episode, I find it really hard to relate to t h I s version, because, as Caya's favourite fanfiction writer, PlaidAdder pointed out in a noteworthy series of meta analysis, the writers suck at casefic, and the particular episode was half HLV-fix-it and half "pukeworthy"! I wouldn't go that far, but I cannot bear to watch it, same as TRF. It is so viscerally WRONG in all things Holmes, that I find I have to distance myself from it! Box office success or not, being suckered into buying their selection of ACD stories, as another famous character would have said: we're not in Kansas anymore!

I relate to Sherlock because I like to state thing the way it is too.

 

In this case, you come to a thread about How You Relate, declare that it's hard to relate, and quoting opinion that part of the BBC Special is 'pukeworthy',

in a forum mostly dedicated to BBC Sherlock.

You said many times that the creators disrespect the original, so, from points above, care to deduce who I think is being disrespectful here?

 

I know you are a purist, nothing is wrong there. You are entitled to.

Although I better don't express what my opinion about that.

Now, what describes BBC Sherlock?

21st Century Sherlock Holmes. Yes?

 

Think about that for a moment here.

In case the purist side of you haven't noticed, there is a very fundamental difference with the origin here.

 

So, is it expected to see different storyline, character or whatever from the original?

Three magic words: No shit, Sherlock.

 

And take care of your health, I'm glad you haven't done so but just in case you don't know, I don't want to clean up any puke in my thread at any given time.

[aphrodite32101]

I relate to sherlock because I like a little suspense and mystery....I'm an actress...I can play different people very well therefore it is in my blood to lie be deceitful and enjoy some suspense and mystery

 

 

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[Inge l-w]

@VBS, you do like your little joke! In case you haven't noticed, I was quoting someone else: do explain to Plaiadder on Tumblr why the Abominable episode, chiefly referring to drugs, women's right to murder husbands and a plot of questionable quality make a Sherlock worthy of holding himself to a higher standard, as Dr Watson admonishes! Since I cannot find any way to relate to such a character, I have studiously abstained from participating in dear Arcadia's thread about the Abominable episode and it's deeper meaning. But thank you for your kind concern over my health.

[sherlocked221b]

I'm like Sherlock because I like mystery I have no friend all I need now is my John so yeah just umm waiting I guess haha

 

 

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[Van Buren Supernova]

Hi Sherlocked221B, welcome to the forum. Nice avatar there and thank you for sharing.

I hope you find your John and have good bickering days.

[Arcadia]

Hi 221B, what are you doing hiding over here? Come out and play!

 

[J.P.]

Okay, this thought needed ages to come to the surface:

You remember - I was always wondering who might be the basis for our Sherlock, because he seems to be so different from canon.

What if the portrait of the introverted outsider getting nasty at Christmas because he feels cornered in his own home is based on Stephen himself? He wrote Scandal (Christmas, Sherlock and Mycroft in the morgue), co-wrote TSOT (the final scene), he might also have an influence on Thompson's script of TRF (alone protects me)

I think this is something I could ask Sue...

[Arcadia]

I have often suspected Moftiss of writing about their own friendship.

[Shadow Dweller]

Maybe an aspect of this series that stick to me is the 'game-playing' between the forces of 'good' and 'evil'. These people do what is necessary to ensure an acceptable outcome even when they have to risk the things that is important to them. Playing to win, indeed. I am glad that the Holmes brothers had cooperated to defeat Moriarty by resetting the game rules without alerting Jim.

[Van Buren Supernova]

You remember - I was always wondering who might be the basis for our Sherlock, because he seems to be so different from canon.

What if the portrait of the introverted outsider getting nasty at Christmas because he feels cornered in his own home is based on Stephen himself? He wrote Scandal (Christmas, Sherlock and Mycroft in the morgue), co-wrote TSOT (the final scene), he might also have an influence on Thompson's script of TRF (alone protects me)

I think this is something I could ask Sue...

Agree, I think you have something valid there.

 

I remember reading something else that mentioned his work in Dr.Who (I have never watched a single minute of Dr.Who and not even familiar with the concept so I don't have any opinion yet) has more.. how to say, personality to the characters. More depth, more exploration.

 

I'd say he knows a thing or two about psychology (and does a good job in making many of us see ourselves in those characters which imho a very good achievement), and he has some Sherlock's trait in him too. Based on my very limited knowledge about him, I do see it in the way he speaks and responds he is more to introvert side but again, I probably only see him once or twice.

[J.P.]

Today I realized that part of that incredible emotional impact the series have on me is two credible/decent/on_the_angels'_side characters clearly expressing thoughts I haven't dare to say aloud even to myself because I was taught they were preposterous, abnormal or immoral.

[Arcadia]

It does present a view too seldom seen in popular fiction ... it's okay to be "different." I think a lot of people can relate to that.

[J.P.]

Finally found that quotation:

 

Every word you wrote I ate, as if it were manna.
Finding one’s self in a book is a second birth.

Anais Nin

[Van Buren Supernova]

Finally found that quotation:

 

Every word you wrote I ate, as if it were manna.

Finding one’s self in a book is a second birth.

Anais Nin

We are not as unique/weird/special or different as we thought, and that is, a relief.

 

 

 

 

I hate saying goodbye, and always try to avoid or rush through it, sometimes making horrible jokes to hide my sadness, and pretty sure I end up giving impression that I don't care, while it's not true, at all.

 

But thankful for special people who see through it, and know that they mean a lot to me without me having to express it the normal way, because I can't change that, regardless how I try. It's just automatic that I always bolt everytime I feel too vulnerable in this department.

[Carol the Dabbler]

I hate saying goodbye, and always try to avoid or rush through it, sometimes making horrible jokes to hide my sadness, and pretty sure I end up giving impression that I don't care, while it's not true, at all.

But thankful for special people who see through it, and know that they mean a lot to me without me having to express it the normal way, because I can't change that, regardless how I try. It's just automatic that I always bolt everytime I feel too vulnerable in this department.

 

You just turn up your collar and sneak out, leaving your violin behind, right?  You may have a great deal in common with Steven Moffat, because I don't know how he and Mark Gatiss could write Sherlock so vividly if it weren't from personal experience.  (I can certainly sympathize with the "making horrible jokes" part.)

[Artemis]

I don't think I was ever taught to believe in Santa.

 

Ditto.

 

Really prefer to open presents away from people because it's very hard to fake my reactions, don't want to be unappreciative.

 

I thought I was the only one!  I also prefer not to be there when someone is opening one from me.

 

Long story short, had to do some washing as I was unable to buy anything suitable for a period of time. So I had to move around in the room in sheet and bathrobe. XD Sherlock made it look comfortable but it feels weird and make me appreciate underwear so much more.. :lol:, needless to say when I had chance to do some shopping I bought half a dozen each.

 

I'm actually more comfortable in a sheet.  I walk around in one more than I'd like to admit, lol.

 

Anyway, another quite embarrassing to admit, and maybe despised like what I read here in SIB, I relate with Sherlock when he was being unsensitive to Molly in Christmas scene.

 

I like to think I am good in reading people feelings, but when it's about people's feelings for me, I am the biggest clot.

 

Likewise.

 

I too have found myself in some "bit not good" Sherlock-esque moments.  The scene from ASiP springs to mind, where they are revealing that "Rachel" was the victim's stillborn child, and Sherlock says something like, "That was ages ago, why would she still be upset?"  I made a very similar comment once about a miscarriage at a Christmas dinner, and I'm pretty sure I had the same exact expression on my face as Sherlock when everyone stopped what they were doing and just looked at me appalled.

 

 

 

Not my proudest moment.

 

I relate to soooo much that was said in this thread, I just want to quote it all!  I suppose I should probably not be lazy and go write my own, though.

 

 

[Arcadia]

Quote away, if you like, we do seem to share a lot of traits in this forum! I think I'm less clueless about all that stuff than I used to be, but I'm old ... it took forever to learn some of the cues, and I'm pretty sure I still miss a lot. But I don't care anymore, I'm old enough now that people are starting to find my cluelessness rather cute. :P

[Van Buren Supernova]

Yes, please, quote and share away!

 

Awkward and weird outside, it's normal here I find a nice home in here with many people here who share similar views and as said, traits.

 

It's kind of ... awesome.

[Arcadia]

And, we have cake.

[J.P.]

Where?