Baby Watson

[Pseudonym]

Yes  :'(  This is supposed to be a show about criminals and chases and Sherlock, not babies! I suppose I should at least be relieved that it's John wearing and baby carrier and not Sherlock. I will admit to being intrigued by John's new hair. 

[Arcadia]

 
Oh, there's bound to be a crime in there somewhere. Someone reported seeing Andrew Scott on set, does that helpl? :D

[Pseudonym]

S'pose so *sniff*

 

[J.P.]

Maybe the baby is a baddie in disguise?

[Pseudonym]

Ha, that's cheered me up - I'm now envisioning the baby with Andrew Scott's face, lol :D

[Arcadia]

That would be brilliant!!!

[Van Buren Supernova]

Gahhhhh..

That is new addition to ugly-baby term.

 

I really think they are fooling us. I think that is Martin-Amanda being them with Sherlock and dummy thrown as decoy (They happen to make it)

Because, why on earth John and Mary have a dog when they are expecting a baby. That is practically another baby. And I don't see John and Mary with those hairs at all.

[J.P.]

Hair... well, now you have me thinking...

But there was a living baby on set. Or maybe even two. I've seen a newborn and the one with the bunny ears :D

Considering all the rules you have for babies on filmsets it's much too much effort for red herrings.

[Arcadia]

Also the dog was in at least one other location. There was the scene with the Watson's crossing the street to where Sherlock was standing with the dog.

 

My guess is that it's Sherlock's dog, or one he's borrowed for the occasion. Mary's shown walking with it to prove she's a modern, liberated, take charge woman. :d

 

The hair ... they've been through a very traumatic period, maybe they just felt like they needed a change. Represents a fresh start, and all that. -- ? I hope Sherlock makes a snarky remark about John's. :d It looks good on Martin, but I agree with Carol, it's not right for John.

 

Also I wonder if they've having a bit of a laugh at the fans .... here we were, all obsessive about Sherlock's curls, so they change the Watson's hair instead.

[Van Buren Supernova]

Hair and dog..

 

Hair. John considers using shampoo as 'hair product', it would be out of character to have fresh new start with hair-that-requires-more-maintenance-than-shampoo. And while John is sensitive, he is not someone who would think of changing physical style for fresh start. He had gone through army period, Sherlock's death and one thing he had was a moustache. It's more like less-keeping than hairstyling that requires more effort.

 

Then, marrried couple, expecting a child, after gone through seeing probably the worst of each, at least know about dark past scenario, would get more sloppy with their appearance, don't you think. Mary and John are never in for style, they always have those homy look, they didn't even bother to change much for their wedding.

 

Dog.

It's interesting if it's Sherlock's dog. But dealing with Magnussen digs up a lot of memory about Redbeard, which we see is not something that he could look back without pain. After 'losing' John to marriage, shot by Mary and settled for shooting Magnussen, for empathy, for compassion, why would he want a dog?

 

I don't say it's not possible, but they have to convince me more than those.

[Arcadia]

Main argument for me ... cost of filming. Don't think Sue would authorize the budget for all those fake scenes. Unless everyone donated their time...... ?

[Van Buren Supernova]

Maybe..they have good working relationship, I can see them doing that.

I can also see them understanding the advantage of putting fake filming and allocating budget for it. Sherlock being so popular there, it's almost necessary because they might not want all their cards shown.

One can hope.

 

Well, they should have film it overseas, near me. Sherlock probably can walk the street undetected, and I promise they won't know they are being watched.

[Shadow Dweller]

If their objective is to create red herrings it is not really necessary to create fake scenes. The real ones, give them slightly different spins one a time for each one, the possibilities is unlimited. There is no need to state what kind of interpretation they want the fandom to have. Just spread tantalizing hints here and there, watch the opinions that spring up, mold with more selective releases and thus they can to some extent influencing the direction of fandom's speculations. Their actual primary objectives are to keep the interest to the series up, priming the fandom to certain height (bonus if there is a considerable number of new converts as the side effect of the viral marketing) and convince those who hold the purse string that it is worth of it to finance the next three episodes.

[Inge l-w]

Baby Watson ( apart from fan fiction) being an absolutely loathsome, abhorrent idea for any Sherlock Holmes series, if they filmed the whole sequence, it should be a Mind-Palace thingy!

[Pseudonym]

I don't think they're filming fake scenes. And I think Baby Watson will only be in it long enough to try to get the audience attached so it's more harrowing when the baby and Mary are killed off. Seems harsh putting a baby in just to kill it though, so maybe Mary will go on the run and take the baby instead. I can't see how they could possibly keep the baby and Mary in the show and have it work. What they've said about the season being devastating and all about consequences make me think Mary's past catches up with her forcing her to escape. Personally I'd like there to be consequences for her shooting Sherlock but apparently we're supposed to just forget that the way John seems to have :S

[Shadow Dweller]

-_- St. Mofftiss, please don't turn this series into a soppy drama. Story about a detective but tilting it more toward battles of wits is even better <-- ideal.

[Arcadia]

One thing that keeps me from believing the show will turn soppy is the repeated assertion that Moftiss are making it for themselves ... and they don't strike me as the types to enjoy watching soppy. But how they plan to pull it off, I have no idea. Killing Mary and the baby seems so ... well, predictable. Sending her on the run makes no sense ... why wouldn't John go with her? John & Mary splitting up is so soap-opera. Keeping her in the background opens them up to more accusations of sexism. I really have no idea how they can resolve this in a way that will please anybody, let alone everybody. But that's one of many reasons why they're writing the show, and I'm not ... so I just fall back on hoping they know what they're doing!

[Inge l-w]

Yep! Hoping what they are doing, like the Big Blue? In that case, cross our fingers and hope for the best in a smorgasbord of roller coasters of emotion and sleuthing!

[Arcadia]

Oh, Big Blue makes sense to me. It's the little embellishment of "persuading" the sniper to stand down that doesn't. But ... wrong thread.

[Pseudonym]

I'm lost, what's Big Blue?

[Shadow Dweller]

The huge airbag that prevented Sherlock become a road pancake at the end of TRF.

[Pseudonym]

Ah I see.

Perhaps Mary will turn out to be genuinely evil after all. Again, seems soap opera, but pretty much every possibility does

[Inge l-w]

Mycroft setting his own back-up snipers to take down two of the three, namely against Mrs Hudson and DI Lestrade can be explained away, though not the one positioned to take out Dr Watson, hence the Fall, but inflating that monstrosity in dt time NOISELESSLY requires a massive amount of suspension of disbelief. There are plotholes in TEH, despite Mr Gatiss being such a stickler for coherence and cohesion.

[Shadow Dweller]

Sniper for Lestrade seems to be one of his fellow officers. On the other hand, that glass monstrosity for a building, depends on how 'one-sided mirror' it is, is a sniper's wet dream.

[Boton]

One thing that keeps me from believing the show will turn soppy is the repeated assertion that Moftiss are making it for themselves ... and they don't strike me as the types to enjoy watching soppy. But how they plan to pull it off, I have no idea. Killing Mary and the baby seems so ... well, predictable. Sending her on the run makes no sense ... why wouldn't John go with her? John & Mary splitting up is so soap-opera. Keeping her in the background opens them up to more accusations of sexism. I really have no idea how they can resolve this in a way that will please anybody, let alone everybody. But that's one of many reasons why they're writing the show, and I'm not ... so I just fall back on hoping they know what they're doing!

 

Right now, "Mary and baby on the run" is just about the best thing I can hope for.  Like others have said in this thread, I just don't want to see John raising a baby.  Too soap opera, too sit-com.  I absolutely cringe at the #setlock photo of John with the baby carrier, and I have been placating myself that that is just the lead-in bumper to episode 1 or the first few minutes of the episode, just to establish (along with the emergency back-seat birth?) that the birth happened, and then we can figure out a way to either get rid of this child or get her and Mary out of the picture so that I can focus on the Best Friendship Ever.  I've got tons and tons of shows to watch that have romantic partnerships and cute babies.  I need my Best Friendship Ever.