Episode 3.1, "The Empty Hearse"

[Arcadia]

I love you guys.

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

Love you too, Arcadia!

[sfmpco]

Interesting rapid-fire dialogue between Mary and Sherlock at the restaurant during the reveal:

 

MW:  Oh no.. you’re…

SH:  Oh yes.

MW:  Oh my god.

SH: Not quite.

MW:  You died.  You jumped off a roof.

SH:  No.

MW:  You’re dead.

SH:  No, I’m quite sure.  I checked.

 

Kept wondering if he was denying he jumped off the roof or just  denying that he died - which he did twice.

 

 

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

Mofftiss was pretty adamant that there was only one way off that roof and it was to jump and there's only one way to safely jump off a roof and live to tell the tale. So I'm going with the latter half of your statement.

[sfmpco]

Oh no, he jumped for sure.  Just interesting that there was a need to do the "you died" twice.  

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

Or normal reaction?  Mary has had to watch John go through the grieving process, visiting the empty, grave and gravestone with him...and here he is, in the flesh.....a person in genuine shock might react in the same way. The lines and the action trying to be as realistic as possible.  Shock, disbelief..".you're not....no you can't be....how"....  all of that.

[sfmpco]

Well if he'd answered "yes" it wouldn't have been quite right for the "you died" part, only the "you jumped off a roof" part.  "No" is only half right too.  There was no good way to answer that one really.  "No" was the safer bet.  I love the "oh my god" and him saying "Not quite."  LOL!!!!

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

The dry humor is just so perfect.

[Arcadia]

Yes, it is! I missed that dialog the first couple of times around too, it almost broke me (with laffing) when I finally got it.

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

I missed it the first time. He says it so fast and low, I didn't catch it.

[Arcadia]

Yep, this show rewards repeated viewings.

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

It surely does.

[jesskayding]

Yeah. I just put on subtitles. I live like the hard if hearing, when watching.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Subtitles are definitely useful -- just don't take them as gospel.  I dunno who did 'em, but there are a few definite errors.

 

[sfmpco]

Yes, there are definitely subtitle errors, but I have seen each episode several times with the subtitles just to make sure I've caught all the little bits, because sometimes those bits fly by so quickly that you miss them.  I don't need subtitles anymore, but once in a while I will turn them on in a specific place if I'm not exactly sure what was said.

[jesskayding]

Yeah I'm still wondering if he really said hudders, vs. Headers in SO3 stag night.

[Carol the Dabbler]

I'm pretty sure it really was "Hudders" -- if that's the part you're talking about.  At least, it sounded like that to me even before I was able to watch with subtitles, and it makes sense as a nickname for someone named Hudson, so I currently see no need to consider other options.

 

Please feel free to change my mind, though! 

 

[jesskayding]

I don't know... It seemed he was answering the question to why they're home so early... Headers. I could see Hudders, I just thought headers was so funny per they were only gone for 2 hours.

[sfmpco]

it's Hudders.

[sfmpco]

Interesting that with all the theories by "The Empty Hearse" club and by Anderson that none of them seemed to talk about WHY Sherlock did it, only HOW he did it.  Of course, they wouldn't have known, but still, they would have happily speculated one would think.

[Carol the Dabbler]

I don't know... It seemed he was answering the question to why they're home so early... Headers. I could see Hudders, I just thought headers was so funny per they were only gone for 2 hours.

 

 

Oh, I see, and a headache does make sense for that interpretation.  I still think he was simply calling her by (sort of) name, but I do see your point now.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Interesting that with all the theories by "The Empty Hearse" club and by Anderson that none of them seemed to talk about WHY Sherlock did it, only HOW he did it.  Of course, they wouldn't have known, but still, they would have happily speculated one would think.

 

Yes, that is odd.  Hmm, well, maybe they did discuss WHY sometimes.  Maybe we just happened to catch them on a HOW day.

 

Does that help any?

[sfmpco]

One of my favorite throw away lines in this episode is when Sherlock says to Molly that he gets extra portions of fish and chips because he helped the owner put up some shelves.  It just seems strange to think of Sherlock offering his time and muscle to do that...unless he had some incentive like the initial promise of extra fish & chips.  Sherlock putting up shelves.  Hard to wrap my brain around it.  

[Carol the Dabbler]

I think he likes to keep people guessing about him -- like the time he told Sebastian that he'd simply gotten the information from his secretary.  That was a lie, of course, but Sherlock seems to like Molly, so I suspect he really did help with the shelves -- though I wouldn't be surprised if there were more to it, and he intentionally told her only the part that would surprise her.

 

[sfmpco]

Okay , here's another TEH conundrum - Anderson's version of the survival of the fall had Sherlock kissing Molly.  Why would he come up with that?  Did he know how Molly felt?  He knew she supposedly laid out his body in the morgue but that doesn't imply anything else.  Of course, I know that kiss was put in for the fandom, period.  Still, interesting that that would be part of his story.