Episode 3.1, "The Empty Hearse"

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Oh, it's definitely a bit flirty regardless.

[Boton]

I do think Molly is checking Sherlock in that scene, but in further consideration I also think it is a kind of checking that John wouldn't do.  John would do the "bit not good" about smiling when they're solving a case of abducted kids, but the two boys would probably share a smirk over the train nerd having a girlfriend.  

[Arcadia]

I still maintain that the entire Shilcott apt. scene is bizarrely flirty.

Oh, it's definitely a bit flirty regardless.

There I completely agree, I absolutely see Sherlock flirting with her for a moment. (This is after the "girlfriend" remark and just before Sherlock focuses his attention on what Shilcott is showing him.) Or maybe "flirting" is a bit strong, but he's definitely trying to ignite a moment with her; although possibly he doesn't realize it could be considered flirting.

 

What's not clear to me is how Molly takes it, as her response is very muted. She doesn't get rattled, though, so that's a step in the right direction!

[sittything]

 

I'm just gonna dump this cute moment here so I can watch it... over and over...

[Arcadia]

Oh, she definitely gives him a correcting glare... a bit of the "A bit not good" thing... and he gets back in line.

.... I think Molly totally checks Sherlock there. I just can't see Sherlock apologizing on his own, plus her face.

I'm still not so sure. Last time I saw it, it looked to me like the two of them share a smirk, and then decide to be polite.

I do think Molly is checking Sherlock in that scene......

Well, frack, now I'm gonna have to go watch it......

Okay, I watched, and I'm convinced ... Molly's in charge. :D Go Molls!!!!

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Oh, she definitely gives him a correcting glare... a bit of the "A bit not good" thing... and he gets back in line.

.... I think Molly totally checks Sherlock there. I just can't see Sherlock apologizing on his own, plus her face.

I'm still not so sure. Last time I saw it, it looked to me like the two of them share a smirk, and then decide to be polite.

I do think Molly is checking Sherlock in that scene......

Well, frack, now I'm gonna have to go watch it......

Okay, I watched, and I'm convinced ... Molly's in charge. :D Go Molls!!!!

 

 

My work here is done.

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I just rewatched this while I was working, and I noticed one of the texts from CAM while Sherlock and Mary were on the bike heading to rescue John said "Things are hotting up here."  I've never heard the idiom "hotting up."  I've schooled myself to say "heating up;" in the rural micro-area of Indiana where I grew up, we frequently said, "Things are getting het up."  Interesting.

 

[Carol the Dabbler]

I've heard waitresses offer to "hot up" your cup of coffee (by pouring in some extra-hot coffee from their carafe).  And I've heard people around here say "Don't get all het up," especially a while back (and I say it myself sometimes).  So I would consider both of those to be colloquial, and probably somewhat antiquated.

 

But I've heard "all het up" on British television a few times, and I've read that it's still a current colloquialism there -- though it's apparently in the process of dying out here.

 

[Carol the Dabbler]

P.S.:  If the aforementioned waitress offered to "heat up" someone's cup of coffee, I might think she meant in the microwave.  So there is apparently a distinction.  Not sure how that might apply to Magnussen's text, though.

 

[Boton]

I've heard waitresses offer to "hot up" your cup of coffee (by pouring in some extra-hot coffee from their carafe).  And I've heard people around here say "Don't get all het up," especially a while back (and I say it myself sometimes).  So I would consider both of those to be colloquial, and probably somewhat antiquated.

 

But I've heard "all het up" on British television a few times, and I've read that it's still a current colloquialism there -- though it's apparently in the process of dying out here.

 

So, apparently this is a case in which I don't need to eliminate my Hoosierisms but instead move to Britain!

 

Regarding coffee, most of what I've heard hear is "you want me to warm that up for you?"  So maybe Ohioans are less optimistic about how hot they can get your coffee with just a top-up?

[Carol the Dabbler]

Having lived in a number of states, I'm not even sure where I've heard "hot it up."  And I've also heard "warm it up," among other expressions.  But I've heard "hot it up" (somewhere) enough times that it doesn't sound strange to me.

 

I am frequently intrigued by the contrast between British and American English -- basically, a lab experiment in what happens when you divide a population and let the language develop for a few hundred years.  The Great Vowel Shift took slightly different courses on the two sides of the Atlantic, some words have died out in one country but remained current in the other, certain new inventions have different names, and so on.  (And of course there are significant regional differences within both countries.)

 

[SherlockedCAMPer]

Having lived in a number of states, I'm not even sure where I've heard "hot it up."  And I've also heard "warm it up," among other expressions.  But I've heard "hot it up" (somewhere) enough times that it doesn't sound strange to me.

 

I am frequently intrigued by the contrast between British and American English -- basically, a lab experiment in what happens when you divide a population and let the language develop for a few hundred years.  The Great Vowel Shift took slightly different courses on the two sides of the Atlantic, some words have died out in one country but remained current in the other, certain new inventions have different names, and so on.  (And of course there are significant regional differences within both countries.)

 

I was noticing the other week while re-watching some episode of Sherlock with the pronunciation of the short A.  Their pronunciation of can't has a as in father where ours is the a as in cat.  But another word (can't remember which one) we flip.  They do the a like cat and we do the a like father.  And I still snicker slightly at hearing them say schedule and privacy (even though privacy is at a very touching/hard moment of TRF).  The British pronunciation of those 2 words still sounds really foreign to me.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Their pronunciation of "privacy" (with a short i) always makes me think of "the privy" (as in, the little house out back).

 

[SherlockedCAMPer]

I've thought of that as well.

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Their pronunciation of "privacy" (with a short i) always makes me think of "the privy" (as in, the little house out back).

 

To me, that actually makes more sense, because I assume the two words have the same root, as does something like "privy council."  I sort of wish I had the guts to start saying privacy with a short "i."

 

One thing I absolutely love is the way that some pronounce "Sherlock."  Both BC (especially in SiP, where he meets John at 221B for the first time and invites him to use first names, with "Sherlock, please") and the actress who plays Kitty Winter on Elementary both pronounce Sherlock to almost sound like it has a short "a" as the first vowel sound.  Almost "Shar-lock."  I really love that.

[Carol the Dabbler]

If you don't like seeing your own double posts, you can always click the "Hide" button (to the left of MultiQuote) in the unwanted post.

 

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I can't say if this was photoshopped or if someone on set just played with his hair for a moment... but his fringe has the letters SH.

 

[Arcadia]

Oh great, now I'm going to have to go look for other versions of this photo and compare ....

[sfmpco]

... because you know you're obsessed when you have to look for other photos to compare!!!!

[Arcadia]

Found a bunch, they're all the same, sooooo.... your call!

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I say someone played with his hair.

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Okay, so now that I know for sure (based on a Moffat/Gattis interview) that there WERE bits of SKYFALL in TEH, especially the scene with Sherlock on the rooftop surveying London, here's a scene I would have love to have seen:

 

Sherlock up on the roof, camera panning around him, and there's Daniel Craig as James Bond standing not too far away.  They don't even make eye contact, but they acknowledge each other with "James." and "Sherlock."  Oh, I would pay to see that one!!!

[Carol the Dabbler]

Okay, so now that I know for sure (based on a Moffat/Gattis interview) that there WERE bits of SKYFALL in TEH, especially the scene with Sherlock on the rooftop surveying London....

 

If the interview is somewhere online, could you link to it? 

[sfmpco]

Carol, I think the interview is posted under the Sherlock news articles/summaries.  I think it's the 1-hr radio interview.

[Boton]

Anderson was probably on the right track with his TARDIS theory of how Sherlock survived, y'all.....

 

Mr. Boton and I were watching one of the Dr. Who episodes around the 50th anniversary.  Most of you have probably caught this reference, but the woman from UNIT refers to doing something with Darren Brown's help, and her colleague says, "Darren Brown?  Again?"  She replies to the affirmative.

 

Since this episode aired in 2013, and the fall would have occurred in 2012ish, I am now of the theory that Darren Brown helps all of Moffat's characters survive things.  Hence, Anderson is right, and Darren Brown was involved in the fall.