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[Pseudonym]

Don't you think it would be heated and angry rather than fun?

[Pseudonym]

As for the Sherlock comment, I liked the fact we don't have to see Sherlock getting involved in relationships - every other detective show delves into their romantic life at some point. We get a bit of it through John but not enough to matter until Mary. I don't know if that's why it was so popular though, I doubt it, I think it's just the pull of the character.

[Fantasy Lover]

 

 

A religion thread? Yeah, too dangerous probably but I'd love it, I think religion is absolutely fascinating.

Agree, I'm friends with a protestant and it's quite interesting to hear about other religions. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but didn't we have a conversation about religion awhile ago? It seemed very civil.

[Pseudonym]

I probably wasn't involved then! :P

[elbafo]

As for the Sherlock comment, I liked the fact we don't have to see Sherlock getting involved in relationships - every other detective show delves into their romantic life at some point. We get a bit of it through John but not enough to matter until Mary. I don't know if that's why it was so popular though, I doubt it, I think it's just the pull of the character.

For me, I think it was the character of Sherlock that drew me in initially. My husband says I always like the clever but mean characters, and he always cites Fawlty Towers as one such example (I absolutely LOVE that show!).

[Arcadia]

 

Dunno, I haven't been accused of being selfish. That's the other thing I find ridiculous, I am not maternal, I don't have a great deal of patience, I find my cats too clingy at times, me having a kid is a terrible idea all around - but hey, as long as I'm repopulating who cares if both myself and the kid are in for at least eighteen years of misery?

I think religion must play a big part for a lot of folk, but I'm giving that side of things a wide berth, I'm pretty sure there's a reason we don't have a religion thread, the politics one gets heated enough!

Given the allergy issues, deformed knee joints and all the other things I had wrong with me I didn't think that having kids was a good idea. Not only that I have depression and didn't want to end up taking my frustrations up on my sprog. Not only that I do like having the freedom to go off and do things without having to worry about kids.

 

I don't think any of that is selfish. In fact I think I would have been more selfish to have a kid just because I could.

 

I do look at other people's kid and babies and feel wistful but o still don't regret making that choice. Also my sister and her husband have two boys so I don't even have to worry on that score.

 

I think that's a very sensible attitude. Of course, I would, since it's the same one I have. My siblings had kids, I'm quite content experiencing all that as the cool aunt rather than the parent.

 

A religion thread? Yeah, too dangerous probably but I'd love it, I think religion is absolutely fascinating.

 

Me too. Did I ever mention that my minor was in Philosophy & Religion? Not for any reason except that it was just the most interesting thing in the catalog.

 

 

Not to change the subject, but I came across this YouTube comment this morning and thought it was interesting.

"I think the popularity of 'Sherlock' probably comes from a general desire for more slice of life style media, especially in the US. Not many genres incorporate it. [...] We're all just thirsty for home life outside of RomComs."

What do you guys think? True? False?

 

I don't know if that would be the main reason for its popularity, but definitely agree that we do need stuff like that outside of a romcom. Personally I found the show to be somewhat intellectually stimulating while having funny moments.

 

 

Yeah, I think I'm more drawn to the smartness of it than anything else. I'm not even sure what "slice of life" means in this context, I don't find the show realistic enough to fit my idea of "slice of life." And that is another reason I like it.

 

As for the Sherlock comment, I liked the fact we don't have to see Sherlock getting involved in relationships - every other detective show delves into their romantic life at some point. We get a bit of it through John but not enough to matter until Mary. I don't know if that's why it was so popular though, I doubt it, I think it's just the pull of the character.

Agreed. I finally got around to watching "The Theory of Everything", and I wasn't that impressed by it ... because they dwelled so much on the marital aspects, I didn't get any appreciation for Hawking's genius. He could have been anyone who just happened to have ALS, not one of the most remarkable thinkers of his time. Soap opera stuff, really. I preferred the BC version.

[Van Buren Supernova]

@people being busybody with kid thingy.

I don't think it's religion or cultural thingy. Partly, maybe, but I will contribute it mostly to the person itself, and unique in each cases. It's very limited, but from my experience

I have different reactions from people from same background; culture or religion. So imho, it's just the person and the mindset.

 

I'd get embroiled in too many arguments I think, I'd have to avoid it entirely.

Ah? Would you?

I remember you always civil even when you have disagreement with others. Maybe it's in S4 thread that I haven't been able to keep up yet? :p Or you are being too hard on yourself? Is it British thingy? XD

 

@religion thread.

I actually enjoy discussing religions too sometimes with people in rl that I know have good logical thinking. Muslims, Buddist, Christians, Hindus. But in rl I know how these people are and I can observe how they react to what I say and where we are going with that. While in the forum, it's very easy to say wrong/not agreeable stuffs that may be very sensitive to one or another.

 

I suppose most members of this forum are civil, and if we thread lightly :p it could be fine. But I don't see myself suitable in there too because sometimes I can't shut up when things said don't fit in my logical spectrum, and religion is a very risky topic for that. But if you have that, have fun guys.

[sally.lloyd1]

Not to change the subject, but I came across this YouTube comment this morning and thought it was interesting.

 

"I think the popularity of 'Sherlock' probably comes from a general desire for more slice of life style media, especially in the US. Not many genres incorporate it. [...] We're all just thirsty for home life outside of RomComs."

What do you guys think? True? False?

I think that's hilarious, especially as it's based on a work of fiction.

 

Home life outside RomComs? What's home life about Sherlock? He has a disfunctional relationship with his brother, keeps body parts in his fridge and other places, is socially inept and has a thing about solving crimes. Not to mention he drives his flat mate crazy at times. And not to forget their flat gets blown up! If the writer thinks that shows home life they must know some really odd people!

 

 

 

 

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[Carol the Dabbler]

You can have "slice of life" type programming about any lifestyle, though. As I understand the term, it simply means a realistic portrayal of a supposedly random sampling of that life.

 

That said, I really don't see why anyone would describe an episode of Sherlock as "slice of life," since there's always a pretty definite plot structure.

[Pseudonym]

 

I'd get embroiled in too many arguments I think, I'd have to avoid it entirely.

Ah? Would you?

I remember you always civil even when you have disagreement with others. Maybe it's in S4 thread that I haven't been able to keep up yet? :P Or you are being too hard on yourself? Is it British thingy? XD

 

Oh I stay civil, but I've had a few arguments. I just tend to duck out rather than get too nasty about things. If a debate on here is going to genuinely bother me in real life then I don't see the point of continuing with it, there are enough real things to worry about without adding in an online argument with someone I don't know. Not to say I don't sometimes get to the point where I walk around muttering about it, or ranting about something in my head, when someone's opinion on here really genuinely bothers me I end up ranting in my head a lot - there are only a handful of times that's happened though and someone has peed me off to that extent. And I think sometimes those people don't realise that what they are saying theoretically, sweeping statements about a character's psyche for example, might actually get to me. There are still a couple of things from the TLD thread that infuriate me if I think about it.

Part of what I like on this forum is that people do generally stay civil even when there is a passionate disagreement about something - there were some people who appeared post season 4 who seemed a bit too militant but luckily they have since vanished again. 

[Arcadia]

You can have "slice of life" type programming about any lifestyle, though. As I understand the term, it simply means a realistic portrayal of a supposedly random sampling of that life.

 

That said, I really don't see why anyone would describe an episode of Sherlock as "slice of life," since there's always a pretty definite plot structure.

 

And since it's hardly realistic. :d

[Pseudonym]

If you're out walking or jogging do you say hello/greet the strangers you pass? I'm curious if there is an urban/rural split or a nation split. I was on a forum where a poll said 93% of the people taking it would say hello... I definitely wouldn't, and in my experience most of the people I pass wouldn't either. However, if my mother is out ambling she always says hello, but then she's in a more rural area. Any thoughts?

I read an interesting post by a runner who normally runs in rural Italy, always says hello to the people she passes, and wears bright colours. Then she went back to London for a holiday, and noted how most of the joggers were wearing black and grey and no one made eye contact. 

I know walking dogs is different, for some reason people always seem to talk to you if you're out with a dog.

[T.o.b.y]

I try to avoid contact whenever possible. Only say hello to people I am acquainted with.

[Carol the Dabbler]

I think it's an urban / rural thing.  Out here in the country where we live, I'll usually say hello to other walkers or joggers even if I don't recognize them, and within a mile or so of our house I'll also wave at passing cars, just in case I know the people.  That's an old habit from my childhood in the country and in a small rural town.  When I lived in cities, though, even modest-sized ones, I didn't do that except within our well-defined little neighborhood (when we had one).

[Arcadia]

I'm more inclined to think urban/rural too. Or, more specifically, population density. If I'm encountering just 2-3 people every once in a while, I'll usually greet all of them, but if it's a crowd ... nah. Would be exhausting, I would think.

[Carol the Dabbler]

I might agree with you -- except I'm thinking of times when I've been on a city street that was, for whatever reason (e.g., late at night or on a Sunday), very sparsely peopled at the time. Under those circumstances, I would be even *less* likely to make eye contact or say hello (especially to a man).

[Pseudonym]

Definitely wouldn't talk to people if it was late, that seems to be inviting trouble.

As for population, I think it's a case of other joggers in a spaced out park rather than anywhere with heavy foot traffic. But I think there is still something to be said that people are less sociable (and friendly?) in more heavily populated areas. City dwellers seem a lot more wary and guarded. Maybe it's related to higher crime rates? Maybe it's because you know you're unlikely to ever see those people again, where as in a rural area it would mean you could be ignoring a neighbour which would seem rude.

I went for trek up a mountain on Friday evening, and my group said hello to all the people we passed because there was hardly no one up there. If I'd been alone I likely would have given them a weak sheepish smile to suss out whether to say hello or not. I think I'm going to start jogging along the promenade next week and I suspect no one will say hello there, but I would imagine anyone jogging will also be wearing headphones.

One of the things mentioned on the forum was someone who said if he looks at someone to say hello, and they don't look back, he says 'cheer up you miserable bugger!' I HATE that type of thing. It's like when you're walking around minding you're own business and someone says 'smile!' It's so rude, and you have no idea what's going on in someone else's life, I could have just suffered a bereavement for all that person knows, don't just tell a complete stranger to smile!

I thought the mention of London joggers being in mainly black and grey was interesting too, is that an urban thing or is it a colder city thing? If it's sunny I'm much more likely to wear a bright top where as generally I live in black, white and grey. Even when it comes to my gym clothes, everything is muted except for one bright sports bra that peaks out a teeny tiny bit from whatever top I'm wearing. Anyone living in warm city know about this?

[SherlockedCAMPer]

I'm in the Twin Cities, MN and we wear color when out even if it's accented with black or an accent to something predominantly black.

[Arcadia]

I haven't particularly noticed what colors people wear (and I think I would have if they were predominantly black or any other color) -- but what I did notice when I when shopping earlier this year was that black and white was about the only thing available in the stores. White is super impractical given what I do for a living (splash paint around) and also too see-through; and black is ridiculous in the hot climate I live in. Gah. (This may explain why I shop Walmart, in spite of their evil reputation; they sell tanks and t-shirts in every color.) (For $3. I destroy them pretty quickly (did I mention I splash paint? ) so I need plenty of cheap stuff. Thank you, Walmart! :P)
 

I might agree with you -- except I'm thinking of times when I've been on a city street that was, for whatever reason (e.g., late at night or on a Sunday), very sparsely peopled at the time. Under those circumstances, I would be even *less* likely to make eye contact or say hello (especially to a man).

 
Well, I wouldn't be out at night alone in a big city, but if I were I doubt if I'd be greeting anybody then either. If I were with someone I might, though. Might depend on the person coming the other way, if they're looking me in the eye or not. In the small (very small) city I work in though, I often walk at night after class, and greet anyone I meet. I don't know where I draw the line between small enough and too big, however.
 
On the other hand, when I'm out in the country at something like a fair or a winefest, where there are mobs of people, I wouldn't greet them; too many of them.
 
I tend to ignore joggers more, simply because they tend to ignore me more. I figure they're in a zone and want to stay there, so I usually don't bother them unless they say something first. Sometimes when I'm painting outside I get in the same kind of zone, I don't like to be bothered then either. But I usually position myself so it's fairly obvious I'm not inviting interaction. Like behind a bush or something.

[Carol the Dabbler]

I'd be interested in seeing your collection of paintings of the the backs of bushes!  :D

 

I wouldn't go greeting everyone at a fair, either, though if someone happened to catch my eye in a friendly way, then I would.  Walking down a small-town street, I would tend to at least smile at people unless the place happened to be crowded.  In a city, though, probably not unless there was a more intimate setting, such as -- oh, I don't know, but a place or event that wasn't crowded and where I felt some rapport with the other people there.

[Pseudonym]

I can't see anyone saying hello to everyone at a fair, they'd seem like a nutter!

[Carol the Dabbler]

Unless they were selling something! :D

[Pseudonym]

I hate how in some countries they have the waiters lurking outside the restaurants specifically to chat up people passing by to try to convince them into going inside. It makes me run the other direction.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Which countries are those?  So I'll know not to go there!  :lol:

 

I really like it when restaurants post their menu in the window, so I don't have to go inside or talk to anyone to determine whether it's my sort of place or not

[Arcadia]

Are there restaurants that don't post their menus outside? I wouldn't go in 'em.

 

My "Backs of Bushes" series is very popular, sell out instantly. So I don't have any examples to show you, you'll just have to take my word for it ... they're awesome. :p