Series 4 (and Special) Speculation

[Carol the Dabbler]

The little gizmo hanging from the chain is called a fob. Do we know for sure that's Mycroft's stomach?

[J.P.]

It was posted by Mark. From any important characters only he is wearing a 3 piece suit with a golden watch.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Could easily be Mycroft, I agree. (Or is it?)

[J.P.]

It IS. I've just have seen a setlock pic with him in his black suit and said fob. So it's not a herring. Probably.

 

ETA

Here:

[Caya]

But if it were a death in the family, wouldn't he be supposed to wear a darker suit? Round here you'd be expected to wear black, and a quick google search backs me up on similar customs in Britain (and also mentions jet jewelry). Just wearing a jet fob with an otherwise neutral suit seems inappropriate for the death of someone you were (supposed to be) close to. Maybe some official figure ... I doubt they'd off someone who really exists, like the Queen, though, that's just bad taste.

 

eta: Curses, theory foiled by J.P.'s edit :D. Black suit is a go, then.

[Carol the Dabbler]

eta: Curses, theory foiled by J.P.'s edit :D. Black suit is a go, then.

With a red tie?!

[Caya]

This site (first thing that popped up for me when searching for "funeral london") has several funeral directors with coloured ties, including a reddish one here, so it might be accepted funeral attire in Britain.

[Carol the Dabbler]

But the funeral director isn't in mourning (unless he is personally, of course), that's just his line of work.

[Caya]

He probably wouldn't show up at work in inappropriate attire, though, just like he probably will keep a sombre mien at work even though he's not in mourning per se.

 

I have a hard time finding good quality photos of men's ties at funerals for some reason (and Google probably thinks I'm quite morbid tonight ) but this here is from an Australian funeral (not Britain, but hopefully close enough in culture), ignore the German text:

 

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/sport/mehr-sport/begraebnis-von-kricketspieler-phil-hughes-in-australien-13299917/familienmitglieder-und-13299938.html

 

Even one of the pallbearers has a blue tie, and on pic 6 there's a guy with a red-and-yellow striped one.

 

Poor guy whose funeral these pics are from was only 25, didn't know Cricket was such a dangerous sport.

[Arcadia]

We are so desperate ... :p

[Shadow Dweller]

We are so desperate ... :p

I supposed we can stalk the production teams and sneak into Setlock for months. That's guaranteed to satisfy our hunger for series 4. :lol:

[Arcadia]

Somehow I doubt that. I think we are insatiable when it comes to Sherlock......

[Shadow Dweller]

Don't worry, our mind would be too busy converting those raw materials into what ifs and oh noes we will be entertained for months or drop dead from exhaustion first.

[T.o.b.y]

I keep wondering who the new villain is. The one whom Toby Jones is playing and who is said to be based on a Doyle character. I am racking my brain trying to come up with a list of Doyle's "finest villains" aside from Moriarty and Magnussen.

 

There's this one guy in "The Dying Detective"... I always thought he could be updated as an evil scientist / virologist or something. Then there's the father in "The Speckled Band" - that character is really creepy and someone whom I think Holmes was not sorry to let die. In "The Copper Beeches", there's a whole household that is despicable. In fact, come to think of it, Toby Jones looks somewhat like I imagine Mr Rucastle. Ew. I hope it's not him - that story gives me the shivers and I hardly ever read it. 

 

Of course, they haven't really used Stapleton from "The Hound of the Baskervilles" other than borrowing his name.

 

So many possibilities...

[Arcadia]

Maybe he's the REAL Moriarty. :p

[J.P.]

Someone wrote it's Moran. But we had one Moran already.

 

Well, maybe IT IS twins...

[Carol the Dabbler]

He doesn't look my mental image of Moran -- more like one of those innocent-looking but secretly creepy and despicable guys that T.o.b.y mentioned.  That's the problem with Conan Doyle's villains -- most of them are really disgusting people.  Dunno how many more of them I can take!

 

[T.o.b.y]

Moriarty had better be dead. Except inside the Mind Palace.

 

I have spent the last hour (at least) going over my Holmes collection, skimming stories and thinking about villains. And I just noticed a common theme: The worst bastards are almost all trying to exploit a (young) woman for financial gain. Whether it is Mr Windibank posing as his stepdaughter's fiancé, Dr Roylott trying to kill his stepdaughters to get their fortunes or Mr Woodley trying to force a lady into marriage - the idea is basically the same, namely at all costs prevent a girl from any kind of autonomy lest she decide to take her money away from you.

 

I wonder how many crimes are still committed today for similar reasons; people being financially dependent on someone else or letting themselves be dependent because of wanting a lifestyle they cannot earn by themselves. I used to think the crimes in the Sherlock Holmes stories were for the most part firmly rooted in the late Victorian time period, but it seems I was wrong.

[Slithytove]

Just been catching up with this thread - a little late - and I wanted to comment on the speculation about British funeral attire.  I wouldn't say that there are strict rules but people do generally tend to wear black and, as with weddings, clothing tends to become increasingly formal as you go up the social scale.  Posh people like the Holmes family would probably be pretty formal but I don't think many people would quibble over the colour of someone's tie, providing that the rest of their attire was suitably sombre.

 

Having said that, I don't think Mycroft looks like he is in mourning.  The information about the fob is interesting but very, very few British people are likely to recognise it as mourning jewellery.  That sort of thing hasn't been fashionable since the Victorian era, when it was customary to wear jet jewellery after someone's death, (I seem to remember that, in "Jane Eyre", the Rivers sisters are bequeathed enough money to buy mourning rings, after their uncle's death), or even pieces made from the hair of the deceased.

[J.P.]

#Well, Sherlock is stuffed with the canon details, this could be one of them.

[J.P.]

Linking this not because of the speculation but because the beeping cane on the photo.
http://finalproblem.tumblr.com/post/145916543160/cherchez-la-femme

[Alex the Dabbler]

Someone wrote it's Moran. But we had one Moran already.

 

Well, maybe IT IS twins...

 

As I overheard Mark Gatiss saying to a fan Sunday night, "it's never twins"! :D

 

[Alex the Dabbler]

Someone wrote it's Moran. But we had one Moran already.

 

Well, maybe IT IS twins...

 

As I overheard Mark Gatiss telling a fan on Sunday night, "IT'S NEVER TWINS"!

[Carol the Dabbler]

Linking this not because of the speculation but because the beeping cane on the photo.

http://finalproblem.tumblr.com/post/145916543160/cherchez-la-femme

Interesting. And I liked the speculation as well -- lots of food for thought there.

[Carol the Dabbler]

I've come up with an in-universe explanation for John's new hair style -- midlife crisis. I suppose that would also explain the caterpillar on his lip in TEH. Not saying I like either phenomenon any better now, but at least maybe now seeing that pompadour won't knock me right out of the Sherlock universe. Though I'm still hoping he'll go back to his usual style sooner or later.