Shoot the Wall (A.K.A. The Rant Thread)

[HerlockSholmes]

Hi Sheerluck

Your boss sounds like one of those people who love revealing their brilliant new plan to all and then resent it for years when you point out a fatal flaw. 

Or if something goes wrong he appears to ‘forget’ whose idea it was in the first place. One of my favourite sayings is:

Success has a thousand father’s but failure is an orphan.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Probably also the same guy who ridicules your idea, then comes up with the same "original idea" himself two weeks later -- only now it's brilliant, of course!

[HerlockSholmes]

Ahhh, you know him too Carol👍

[Carol the Dabbler]

Yup.

He was a pretty good boss, actually, but he did have a few quirks, including that one.

Then one day he was complaining to me and a co-worker that *his* new boss had rejected a suggestion, then come up with the same idea himself.  Co-worker and I just about fell out of our chairs laughing.  Boss was smart enough to realize what that meant -- but incredulous -- "Are you implying that *I* do that?!?!?"

[Arcadia]

20 hours ago, Carol the Dabbler said:

Or Dubya's. 

In all seriousness, I would never blame Dubya. I never found him to be the brightest bulb in the box, but I thought he was well-meaning, decent and a gentleman. Cheney and Gingrich, on the other hand.....  

[Arcadia]

2 hours ago, Carol the Dabbler said:

Probably also the same guy who ridicules your idea, then comes up with the same "original idea" himself two weeks later -- only now it's brilliant, of course!

Oi, I'm on a citizens committee where a couple of people keep doing that. In fairness, I suspect they forget where they heard the idea, because they usually say they like it at the time, but then never do anything about implementing it. But then weeks or months later, they suddenly "have" the idea themselves. (And often still never do anything about implementing it. ) It's annoying but I try not to let it bother me TOO much, because I suspect I do the same myself sometimes. I hope people call me out when I do, it's not intentional, just lousy memory. And probably a little bit of not really giving a damn who gets credit for the idea, as long as it works. Apparently I was born for committee work.  

[Carol the Dabbler]

44 minutes ago, Arcadia said:

In all seriousness, I would never blame Dubya. I never found him to be the brightest bulb in the box, but I thought he was well-meaning, decent and a gentleman. Cheney and Gingrich, on the other hand.....  

... or Biden ... or She Who Shall Not Be Named?

33 minutes ago, Arcadia said:

I suspect they forget where they heard the idea, because they usually say they like it at the time....

Well then, that's different.  I suspect that the ones who hated it when it was your idea are MBTI Js, so  (as usual) they react before thinking things through. But then the idea lodges somewhere in the back of their brain, and eventually gets digested and appreciated. By then they've honestly forgotten hearing it from you, because they had dismissed it so quickly.

Much as I'd like to ascribe it to egomania, I doubt there's much of that involved.

[Arcadia]

Biden????? Eh, he's a sweetiepie. I can't remember who told me this, but her son, who had no love for Democrats, once had to spend time with Biden on a golf course … I think the son was a master golfer, or whatever you call 'em. You know, the pro. At any rate, he expected to hate the experience, but Biden turned out to be such a decent, polite gentleman that the son took quite a liking to him. Still wouldn't vote for him, though.  

[Carol the Dabbler]

Biden may well be a sweetie pie on the golf course -- but all I've seen is his behavior in the VP debates, which I found rude and deplorable.  Definitely *not* gentlemanly.

2 hours ago, Arcadia said:

... the son was a master golfer, or whatever you call 'em. You know, the pro.

You call 'em the pro. 

[Pseudonym]

My dad has a habit of saying something a minute or so after my mother has said it. She says something, I answer it, there's a pause, and then my dad will say it like he just had the idea. I always joke that he thinks my mother's voice is either a voice in his head or his conscience talking. 

[Arcadia]

Oh lord. One of our art group members is like that, drives us all crazy. She's also one of those people that asks a question, then before you have a chance to answer, asks two or three follow up questions. Many of which are overly personal. We keep trying to diagnose her.  

3 hours ago, Carol the Dabbler said:

Biden may well be a sweetie pie on the golf course -- but all I've seen is his behavior in the VP debates, which I found rude and deplorable.  Definitely *not* gentlemanly.

I assume you're referring to the Ryan debate? You got me there. The debates have become a joke. Maybe that's all they ever were, I don't know. Nothing but bread and circuses, now, fer sure.

[Carol the Dabbler]

1 hour ago, Pseudonym said:

My dad has a habit of saying something a minute or so after my mother has said it. She says something, I answer it, there's a pause, and then my dad will say it like he just had the idea.I always joke that he thinks my mother's voice is either a voice in his head or his conscience talking.

Longer pause, but I can't help being reminded of Sherlock's parents. 

I'd guess that he isn't paying conscious attention to her.  That's a pretty common husbandly trait.  Nevertheless he does hear her on some subliminal level, and the idea gradually percolates into his consciousness, where he takes it for an original thought.  Kinda like what you said.  Does it drive her buggy, or has she gotten used to it by now?

 

1 hour ago, Arcadia said:

 

1 hour ago, Arcadia said:

I assume you're referring to the Ryan debate?

Bingo.

[Pseudonym]

There's usually another pause followed by "John! I just said that!" I think she's mostly used to it by now. If I'm feeling kind I'll just repeat my earlier answer and pretend I haven't just said it once. 

[Arcadia]

Brace yourself, Pseud, they get worse as they get older!  

[HerlockSholmes]

7 hours ago, Pseudonym said:

My dad has a habit of saying something a minute or so after my mother has said it. She says something, I answer it, there's a pause, and then my dad will say it like he just had the idea. I always joke that he thinks my mother's voice is either a voice in his head or his conscience talking. 

Maybe your mom is a ventriloquist who uses your dad as a vessel to emphasise her point😃

[Sheerluck]

As with any competent woman, her husband is merely a puppet and extension of her will. If he knows what's good for him anyway.

[Pseudonym]

Yeesh, I'd hate that.

[Arcadia]

Don't knock it til you've tried it.  

[Pseudonym]

I have. Can't stand people who don't have their own mind. 

[T.o.b.y]

7 hours ago, Sheerluck said:

As with any competent woman, her husband is merely a puppet and extension of her will. If he knows what's good for him anyway.

I must be a very incompetent woman then. 

[Fantasy Lover]

I assume you're referring to the Ryan debate? You got me there. The debates have become a joke. Maybe that's all they ever were, I don't know. Nothing but bread and circuses, now, fer sure.

what debate? Did I miss something?

[Carol the Dabbler]

Sorry, FL.  We were talking about the American political debates between vice-presidential candidates right before the 2012 election.  (There were presidential debates as well.)  This has been a regular (every four years) occurrence on our television since 1960.

However the debates used to be sponsored / moderated by the League of Women Voters.  I think they've gone downhill since the two major parties effectively took over. For one thing, they effectively exclude any candidates except their own, whereas if there was a notable independent or minor-party candidate, the LWV would include them.

[Pseudonym]

Accidentally doubled the salt in my dinner recipe and ruined it. No idea if it was successful otherwise or not, all I taste is salt.

[T.o.b.y]

7 hours ago, Pseudonym said:

Accidentally doubled the salt in my dinner recipe and ruined it. No idea if it was successful otherwise or not, all I taste is salt.

Oh no! Any way you could fix it? There are several ways to salvage over-salted food buy it depends on the recipe whether any of them will work. 

[Pseudonym]

It’s butter chicken. Do you know any way to fix that because I still have a portion for this evening.