Episode 3.2, "The Sign of Three"

[jesskayding]

Well, the trailer for next week's up ...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhjIsu7n6bI

 

Time to stock up on hankies .

 

We don't get trailers Sherlock trailers over here. What! That would be so exciting if they produce trailers for international audiences. I would get even more hype/psyched up.

[Arcadia]

I think it may depend on your PBS station whether you see the trailers or not. WETA definitely showed them. I don't recall seeing them on any of our other PBS stations, tho.

[jesskayding]

 

 

Although it truly is hard to tell what goes on in that funny little head of his. With Molly, sometimes I question his sincerity. Is he using her because he knows how much she loves him... Even obsesses over him. I've paused the DVD during SO3 & the look of dispair Molly is giving while Sherlock is taking pictures with Janine.

 

Poor women. I don't know if there's anything worse than unrequited love.

It's totally worth it to tear your attention away from the boys in The Sign of Three for one viewing and focus on Molly. She has her own little story going on in the background with Tom, Lestrade and her sympathy for Sherlock, and if you follow that, you practically know even before His Last Vow that her engagement will soon be over.

 

I wouldn't say Molly's love is totally unrequited at this point. Sherlock might not have any kind of romantic interest in her, but he's come to value her affection, and she "does count", and they both know it. And it might be better to be a friend of Sherlock's than a lover. No, given his personality, I am sure it's much better. So I don't feel that sorry for Molly any more.

 

 

 

Awwwww. Haven't you ever loved someone who you knew wasn't good for you. All of your friends warned you about them. But you just can't help how you feel... You're just helplessness & hopelessly in the palm of their hands. Love unreciprocated still hurts. Even if that person is bad to you... Its indescribable. The pain of it is pretty intense.

 

At least it hasn't caused her to plummet into a world of dismal depression & obesity. not yet anyway.

[Bendydoodle Cantaloupe]

 

 

Although it truly is hard to tell what goes on in that funny little head of his. With Molly, sometimes I question his sincerity. Is he using her because he knows how much she loves him... Even obsesses over him. I've paused the DVD during SO3 & the look of dispair Molly is giving while Sherlock is taking pictures with Janine.

 

Poor women. I don't know if there's anything worse than unrequited love.

It's totally worth it to tear your attention away from the boys in The Sign of Three for one viewing and focus on Molly. She has her own little story going on in the background with Tom, Lestrade and her sympathy for Sherlock, and if you follow that, you practically know even before His Last Vow that her engagement will soon be over.

 

I wouldn't say Molly's love is totally unrequited at this point. Sherlock might not have any kind of romantic interest in her, but he's come to value her affection, and she "does count", and they both know it. And it might be better to be a friend of Sherlock's than a lover. No, given his personality, I am sure it's much better. So I don't feel that sorry for Molly any more.

 

 

 

Awwwww. Haven't you ever loved someone who you knew wasn't good for you. All of your friends warned you about them. But you just can't help how you feel... You're just helplessness & hopelessly in the palm of their hands. Love unreciprocated still hurts. Even if that person is bad to you... Its indescribable. The pain of it is pretty intense.

 

At least it hasn't caused her to plummet into a world of dismal depression & obesity. not yet anyway.

 

 

I don't reckon Molly'd get depressed, really. Maybe the Series-one-Molly but not the Series three one, 'cause in Series 1 she let him do whatever to her, but in Series 3 she's shaped up -- hence the slap in the face and her anger at Sherlock for going back into drugs. She doesn't really need him anymore but she loves him all the same.

[jesskayding]

Well I don't know. I think she's behaving that way because he told her she actually does matter. I agree she loves him the same. She may not be the same publicly, but I would think she can't help but continue to think about him when she's at home.

 

It was in Season 3 that we discover Molly let's him use her bedroom for one of his bolt holes. So I'm guessing home girl takes the couch. ooooooo she's so strong & assertive. Way to enforce boundaries.

 

Ok this question should be in geek interpreters, but what in the world is a lilow (lylo), is that like a lazyboy or futon?

[Caya]

A lilo is more widely known as an air mattress.

[jesskayding]

Oh cool. I pull out my lilo every time I have a guest sleep over. Hay I have no spare bedrooms.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Technically, I believe Lilo is a brand name -- but it's used generically in the UK, the way people use "Kleenex" here, to mean any tissue.

 

[jesskayding]

Hmmm. Interesting. Like Xerox.

[Bendydoodle Cantaloupe]

A lilo is more widely known as an air mattress.

 

In Florida I slept on one and in the morning my back hurt worse than an old lady's.

[Bendydoodle Cantaloupe]

It was in Season 3 that we discover Molly let's him use her bedroom for one of his bolt holes. So I'm guessing home girl takes the couch. ooooooo she's so strong & assertive. Way to enforce boundaries.

 

Well, Sherlock's a butthole for doing that

[jesskayding]

Hay she allows him to treat her that way. Wouldn't be able to do what she doesn't allow.

[Bendydoodle Cantaloupe]

Maybe she gets the bed and makes him sleep on a lilo or something?

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

She would now....not sure about Season One...but now?  Oh yeah!  Out of my bed, Sherlock.....mine...not yours.....the lilo is in the closet...use it!

[jesskayding]

I have yet to see that attitude from her. Even when she's asked about his bolt hole there in her bedroom, her mannerisms are the same as when she removed lipstick in SIP, then scurrie away very quickly to put it back on.

 

She feels more important to Sherlock, but she still acquiesces to his will. And Benny you know Sherlock isn't gonna sleep on Molly's lilo. He'll put himself first & take the bed. He wouldnt be able to ThINk!,

 

I'm glad however she didn't settle for Tom as a substitution for Sherlock.

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

I think we saw the tip of that ice berg in "HLV" when she slaps him pretty good across the face not once, but three times and even yells at him.  Yeah...she's grown up quite a bit. If she wanted her bed, she would now be able to stand up to him with no problem.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Dunno, in "Last Vow" it sounded to me like she'd ceded her entire bedroom to him.

 

MOLLY: Just the spare bedroom. ... (Awkwardly) Well ... my bedroom. We agreed he needs the space.

 

And "we agreed" obviously means "he insisted."

 

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

I wonder what spare bedroom means in this context?

[jesskayding]

That girl is not making enough $ to afford a Bed & ½ on her own in London. The spare bedroom, meaning her own bedroom. She's just embarrassed, per she keeps letting that man own her heart.

[T.o.b.y]

I'm glad however she didn't settle for Tom as a substitution for Sherlock.

 

Oh Lord, yes. Poor Tom, he never did anything wrong as far as I know, but I disliked him from the start.

 

Molly is so sweet in The Sign of Three. How concerned she is about Sherlock having to do that big speech. She even calls Mrs Hudson on the phone to discuss it.

 

I love Molly. She deserves way better than Tom. (She also deserves better than Sherlock in the shape of a lover). I don't understand, by the way, why she doesn't seem to be thought of as attractive. I think she's very pretty. I like her hair, and I see nothing wrong with her clothes - quite the contrary, often when I see her, I go, oh, oh, I want that!

 

I also kind of like that we see Molly at her work so often. It's nice to have a "working girl" on television in a half-way skilled and not completely stereotypically female job, and I love the sight of her in her white coat. I do wonder what she does in her spare time, though.

[jesskayding]

I think I'm the only one that comments on her looks. It's fine to be frumpy & kind of sloppy I guess. For those who are attracted to that. My thing is if she wants Sherlock, her current looks & lower self esteem isn't gonna reel him in.

 

So she needs to allow her heart to go on, as Celine Dion would say, and find a proper suiter who will engage her both intellectually & say wow when he sees her... Lestrade! Hello.

[T.o.b.y]

I love The Sign of Three, I really do, but I still do not fully understand it. What is eating Sherlock the whole time? John has been gone from Baker Street for years, now. Sherlock has been alone there ever since he came back, and at least now, John is talking to him again, and going with him on cases. They're really good friends, the best of friends, actually. Sherlock likes Mary. He doesn't find her boring or annoying, as he seemed to do John's previous girl friends. It's a decided understatement to say Sherlock actively promotes their marriage. It all seemed fine between the three of them. So what the hell is wrong?

 

Is it because Sherlock already knows Mary is pregnant and so foresees that John will have much less time for casework than formerly once the child is born? But children grow up eventually.

 

Is it that Sherlock suddenly realized through John and Mary's example that love isn't such a bad idea after all, and that he is lonely and would like a lady friend himself? Fine, he could get himself one any time. Molly would drop Tom at a moment's notice for him, and Janine was clearly very interested. It was he who actively tried to find another man for her. In a pinch, he could always try to hunt down Irene Adler; he clearly knows she's alive... And something tells me she wouldn't say no to dinner.

 

I feel for Sherlock, and my heart understands him perfectly well, I think, but my brain doesn't. My brain just doesn't get this entire episode. It keeps yelling, what is your F***ing problem here?

 

 

[Janie]

Maybe because everyone keeps telling him that everything will change after the wedding? That John will rather stay home with his wife than run with him around London? Maybe he's trying to like Mary so much because he's afraid that otherwise he would lose John completely.

I don't know. It's Sherlock. Who knows what's going on in his funny old head

[Bakerstreet Irregular]

And things have changed. He has. London had. It felt like he was was still trying to get his footing. I think he has come to realize just what kind of friends he really has. I think that really kind of off balanced him some what. He is still apologizing in" TSoT" for causing John so much distress in faking his death.

[jesskayding]

Yeah, if I'm loosing my best friend for ever that would bother me. Also he took John for granted. Assumed he didn't have a life and therefore would be waiting for him @ Bakerstreet indefinitely.

 

So it threw him off when he was able to get on with his life without him.