Speedy's Cafe - General Chat about anything you like!

[Van Buren Supernova]

 

That sounds a lot like those "Mr. Clean" sponges we have in the States. Those things are miraculous, they'll remove any residue or stain. Watercolor artists even use them to correct mistakes on their watercolor paintings! I hoard them like gold.

I tried something similar but not Mr.Clean but it doesn't work. :( We don't have Mr. Clean.

The scouring stick is something like a porous stone, using abrasion to clean.

 

 

I know it's confusing.  Also, even mods may fail to notice what thread they're in.  So please feel free to Report any post that you find questionable.  I don't believe the "report" is visible to non-staff (I'll "report" this post as soon as I've posted it -- please tell me whether you can tell I did that), so no harm done if you report something by mistake.

 

When the ban is lifted, fellow mods, we need to remember to announce the new situation quite visibly, and presumably remove the "SPOILER!" tags from thread titles.

I don't see anything.

I can also just sound it on the thread without explaining into detail.

Originally I hesitated because my spoiler radar is set a bit differently, so I thought it's me. But since you guys agree that the ones I pointed out are legit, we are in the same page then.

[Van Buren Supernova]

@ Hugs

Ehm... maybe I can represent the other side for a tiny bit.

 

I don't hug people except one. I don't even hug my mom except few, very few occasions. I went away, moved cities, countries, went to 'risky' places or came back from it, moved jobs after years and after knowing lots of people, brushed with dangerous situations, natural disasters, almost drown multiple times, fell from cliff, caught in riot, caught dangerous diseases, but I don't expect or feel the need to be hug, or hug my family or friends who went through some of the situations.

 

I can't really explain why, maybe it's just habit, or upbringing, or just what I am. I don't even say things like I was worried sick about you when you were fighting for your life in hospital, like what my brother went through couple of months ago, but I almost went mad worrying about him from far and constantly checking. When he recovered all I could say was 'glad you are back', which he also took nonchalantly 'yah, that was tedious' through messaging, we don't even call regularly. We stay continent aparts and only see each other every 1 or 2 or more years. We actually had opportunity to meet again when he had to go back to our family home and I purposely flew back too since I was able to take sometimes off, and the exchange was "Don't do that again, you freak me out." That's that. But then together with our parents and brother, we spent good times together, cherishing it more than ever.

 

However, although lacking in all those 'normal' loving interactions, I assure you there is no lack of affection, we just channel it differently, and in this case, quite similar with Sherlock. Can't even speak 'sweet' words, but awkward exchanges, lame humor attempts, or speechless like John but underneath there is a turbulence in feelings.

It's just our way to cope, to try to make it feel better. You may see me walk away sparkling unscratched from a goodbye, but if you could find me in my bolthole afterwards, I could be in such a mess and total wreck, but you wouldn't find me.

 

You would never see me offer hug, except one and my mom. You could see my invisible hinge on my heel when someone tries to hug me or how fast I could detect it coming and run from it.

So, TEH, tarmac, that is exactly what I would do. I'd laugh at John's face and make fun of his moustache, or stand awkwardly in silence, but it's actually the same with hug. Err... get it? :p

[Pseudonym]

Oh God, no, don't get me wrong I am exactly the same - I don't even like being touched much, the only person I am really willing to hug is my mother, and that's normally a stealth attack from her. I barely talk to my siblings, not that we've fallen out, I'm just close to any of them. 

 

But Sherlock died. That would be worthy of an awkward back-slapping hug even from me. ;) 

[Arcadia]

 

I also want to ask the mods, are there any rules that relate to people battering others over their heads with their opinions being decreed as if they are one hundred per cent law? I'm not talking about important things, like the TJLC thread, but in normal thread. I always try to go about things as very much 'this is my opinion, this is what I think, i feel that' etc. I'm not trying to tell others that my opinions are right and that everyone else is wrong because I know best - I'm content to agree to disagree. I haven't been in 4.3 thread for a bit, but there was a lot of it going on there. - 'you are wrong because this, this and this are fact' when in reality it's just a conflicting opinion. I suppose it's hard to police, but I don't like people bashing other people opinions to that extent, starts to feel a bit bullying. Definitely made me duck out. 

 

EDIT - Just to add, yes, sometimes I might slip up in talking about something I feel passionately about, a recent rant in 4.2 comes to mind, but I'm talking about people who leap on other people's posts and rip them apart constantly. 

 

Yeah, we're aware of who you're referring to, and it's not the first time this situation has occurred. I think we mods prefer to err on the side of not muzzling anyone, even if we object to their manner of delivery. It's a fine line ... maybe we've been too lenient? I'm aware of how it spoils that thread for other people.

 

For what it's worth, I did drop a mod warning into that thread about not coming on so strong, and it seemed to help a bit ... for the time being. Like I said, we've been here before, and it always ramps up again. Some people can't seem to help themselves. But I'll discuss with the other mods and see if they have any ideas that might help make it more comfortable for other members. I'm relatively inexperienced at this.

 

If you can bring yourself to do it -- and it's perfectly fine if you don't want to -- I've discovered that flattery often helps with people like that. Like a certain psychopath, sometimes if you give them what they want, they're a little easier to manage. :p So a little "wow, that's a good point" (say it sincerely, though, don't fake it) can make it easier later when you have a "no, I disagree" to deliver. I've actually managed to get a little dialog going that way, once or twice. But yeah, the "lecturing" of other people continues, and it is very annoying.

 

And your posts are always considerate to others, Pseud, no need for you to worry on that score. Do you give lessons?

[Pseudonym]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed it and it's getting to, I wasn't sure if I was being a bit oversensitive or not. :D

 

I think it was only tried with me once and I didn't get into a discussion just did the 'agree to disagree' bit. I don't have the motivation or the energy to get into a blow by blow account of everything I've said that was disagreed with. But yup, it was a large part of my reason for unfollowing that thread, was annoying me too much to keep reading. 

 

 

[Shadow Dweller]

Pseudonym, you just make it hard for me to resist from diving into that particular thread (the impression of it here is like a siren's song to me :D).

 

*is peering towards the mods from behind her phone* I am a perfectly angelic person.

[Arcadia]

Compared to whom? :p

 

It's not right that people feel like they have to avoid that thread in order to maintain their equanimity. I hope we can come up with a solution.

 

I'm opening up some other threads, and you all can too, just make sure to put SPOILERS in the titles. Maybe if we spread the conversation out a bit it will help diffuse the impact certain posters are having.

[Pseudonym]

Come Shadow... join the dark side... 

 

 

Ah good, I hope so. New threads to dip into just in time for the weekend.

[Arcadia]

I'll open some more later, right now I'm off to work. Or you ladies can open some, just remember to put spoiler warnings in the title and first post. Ciao.

[Shadow Dweller]

Come Shadow... join the dark side...

 

 

Ah good, I hope so. New threads to dip into just in time for the weekend.

 

Aaww... Thank you :hug: :D

[Caya]

Meanwhile, I'm always happy to explain, should someone be uncertain as to how this works, how to Ignore certain posters - not the mental block, that is, but the forum filtering them out. :lol: I've found that saves my peace of mind on other forums (the function here is disabled for mods, alas). It's awkward when you only get half of a conversation but with some posters, whom everybody long since got tired of engaging anyway, it really makes a thread more readable and enjoyable.

 

Like Arcadia said upthread, generally speaking we are reluctant to muzzle forum members unless they really cross the line with a running jump. But being granted a place to air your opinion facts doesn't mean that anyone else is required to read them. :P Free speech doesn't mean free audience, and Ignore is a wonderful tool.

[Pseudonym]

I had no idea we could do that on here, that's definitely handy to know. Thanks! :D

[Caya]

Okay, so just in case someone else didn't know about this and has trouble with the process, it's totally easy. The official explanation is here, but here comes Caya's Handy Two-Step Guide to Ignoring:

 

1. Click on your name (top right), then choose Manage Ignore Prefs and click on that, too.

 

 

2. The screen wil change to this. Enter the name of the user of your, er, choice, then don't forget to check the boxes for what you want to ignore (when in doubt, check all :P), click on Save Changes - and that's it, no more blather.

 

 

Also of interest to our mobile users may be the little inconspicuous box there on the top left - check that (don't forget about Save Changes) and no more signatures, which might come in handy when reading on a small screen.

 

 

[Arcadia]

Let's see if I can get through this without being spoilery... I saw a post on Tumblr about how someone just wanted to see Sherlock stand up for himself, and I think that's what bothers me about the new season and the end of the last one. Yep, he's perfectly capable of defending himself against outsiders, 'the enemy,' but when someone in his inner circle does something horrible (ie shooting him) it gets brushed over and he just forgives them.

Also I think TEH really, really needed Sherlock giving some explanation to John of why he did what he did, faking his death, to save John, Mrs H, and Lestrade. It's one of those conversations you just have to assume happens offscreen, but it's an emotional and important moment. Moftiss rely too heavily on things being offscreen sometimes so that the emotional impact that you're looking forward to seeing never actually comes. Again in TEH I don't think it would have been too much to ask for John to give Sherlock a hug or show some sign of actually being pleased he's back. I can accept the punches/headbut etc but why doesn't he hug him days later when he's calmed down? Lestrade hugs him ffs, and he doesn't exactly come across as a touchy-feely character either. Same as on the tarmac - your best mate has just essentially sacrificed his life to save your lifestyle, he's literally flying to his death, and all he gets is a handshake? Yea, Sherlock would probably be alarmed if John hugged him, but honestly his alarmed little face is part of the reason I wanted to see it. There is the whole stiff upper lip thing, and then there is being a bit of a d*ck. So... um... discuss?

 

To get to the other part of your post whilst I have a little refreshment ...

 

Re: the tarmac ... I just have to believe that John had no idea Sherlock was going to his death. I assume he knew it was exile, but that's it.

 

Plus I think John was still "basically pissed off" with Sherlock as well as Mary, and he's not good at expressing his emotions to begin with, and he might even been angry that Sherlock had let it get so far that he actually had to kill a man to fix it. I always felt that the emotions in that scene were very complex, and the boys themselves had no idea how to express them; especially since they're both so repressed anyway. That tarmac scene seemed very natural and right to me.

 

On the other hand, Greg strikes me as the kind of guy who has no problem giving hugs. So, I'm afraid it's just a difference in how we perceive the characters.

 

I too would have liked to see Sherlock explain the "why" of TRF to John ... because then I'd know why too. Ever since TEH I've never been sure. :P But I sort of get why they didn't show us, it could have required an awful lot of exposition. Although they could have had Sherlock explaining it to John at the end, instead of Anderson.

 

As to why Sherlock doesn't stand up for himself ... I have thoughts, but gotta run again, hopefully more later.

[Van Buren Supernova]

I think it was only tried with me once and I didn't get into a discussion just did the 'agree to disagree' bit. ...

 

you refer to he/she as it..!

 

I think I know what you guys are talking about, and if I'm not wrong, saw similar thing as well in HLV thread as well back then when I tried to read it from the beginning.

 

Anyway, the last time I was on the thread, it had not get back to me when I questioned about a scene it mentioned. But it's been a while, don't think I have time in near future because I only go in when I have luxury of time to gain significant catch-up or not at all. When I do, sigh, not sure when, I'll see what I can do as fellow member who doesn't really have to be nice :p.

[Pseudonym]

I meant 'it' referring to 'the arguing' not the person ;)

[Van Buren Supernova]

How disappointing.. :D

But too late, as you see, I have adapted the term. :p

[Arcadia]

Let's see if I can get through this without being spoilery... I saw a post on Tumblr about how someone just wanted to see Sherlock stand up for himself, and I think that's what bothers me about the new season and the end of the last one. Yep, he's perfectly capable of defending himself against outsiders, 'the enemy,' but when someone in his inner circle does something horrible (ie shooting him) it gets brushed over and he just forgives them.

We've talked before how Sherlock doesn't (didn't?) seem to place a huge amount of value on his own life; so I think that's a factor. Also he's pretty good at focusing on the why's and wherefores of the things that happen to him, rather than on how it makes him feel.

 

And maybe he just has a forgiving nature?

 

But when it comes to Mary, it seems to me like he just "got" her in a way that no one else did; in some sense, they were kindred spirits. Except for that one little flash of anger when he asked why she didn't come to him with her problems, he simply didn't pass judgement on her. And there's something to be said for someone who's able to do that.

 

Hm ... and maybe he just didn't want John to suffer through losing her. Maybe he thought he owed John that.

[T.o.b.y]

 

 

Free speech doesn't mean free audience, and Ignore is a wonderful tool.

I can only second this! And thank you ever so much, Caya, for posting detailed instructions on how to use the ignore tool.

So sorry I have been mostly absent lately and haven't done much mod-ing. I probably won't be very active until this coming weekend. Thanks so, so much to everyone holding down the fort!

[Carol the Dabbler]

... it was a scouring stick, heavy duty, and good god, it was a miracle. Everything unwanted is gone, the ceramic and stainless steel are not spoiled, the result was fantastic, although I had to use good force and the stick completely dissolve after cleaning only half a toilet (quite a perfectionist :P)

 

That sounds a lot like those "Mr. Clean" sponges we have in the States. Those things are miraculous, they'll remove any residue or stain. Watercolor artists even use them to correct mistakes on their watercolor paintings! I hoard them like gold.

 

I tried something similar but not Mr.Clean but it doesn't work. :( We don't have Mr. Clean.

The scouring stick is something like a porous stone, using abrasion to clean.

 

OK, gals, you have my complete attention!  VBS, could you post the name of this product and/or a link to its website (even if it's not in English)?  Arcadia, do the Mr. Clean sponges remove iron stains from porcelain?  Do they remove hard-water deposits?  I see they make four different kinds -- which have you used?

 

I don't believe the "report" is visible to non-staff (I'll "report" this post as soon as I've posted it -- please tell me whether you can tell I did that), so no harm done if you report something by mistake.

I don't see anything.

I can also just sound it on the thread without explaining into detail.

Thanks, I wasn't absolutely certain whether anything showed to normal members or not.

 

Please use the report button on the offending post.  That way the staff will be notified immediately.  (Otherwise, we might not happen to read either the offending post or your post for quite some time.)  Besides, using the report button makes it absolutely clear which post you're talking about and allows you to explain in as much explicit detail as you like.

 

You can of course also use the report button whenever you spot something that you think might be against any of the other forum rules, or might be a problem for any other reason.  You don't even have to be sure that it's a problem -- nobody but staff will see it, so if we don't think it's a problem, then no harm done.

[Arcadia]

Okay, gang, I've started several new threads for Series 4; they're all in this subforum: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/forum/65-special-and-series-4/

 

SPOILERS!

 

Actually, let me link to each one:

 

Sherlock: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3571-spoilers-sherlock-holmes-in-s4/

John: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3570-spoilers-john-watson-in-s4/

Mycroft: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3573-spoilers-mycroft-holmes-in-s4/

The big bad: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3569-spoilers-the-big-bad-in-the-final-problem/

Favorite moments: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3575-spoilers-favorite-moments-and-images-from-s4/

Themes & story arcs: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3574-spoilers-themes-arcs-and-patterns-in-series-4/

 

And for just general discussion of TFP: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3562-the-final-problem-how-do-we-actually-enjoy-this-episode-spoilers-ahead/

 

And an update: Things seem to be quieting down in the episode threads, at the moment we're waiting to see if it stays that way. Currently there's a riveting discussion about what else to watch now that there's no more S4 episodes. :P

[Arcadia]

 

That sounds a lot like those "Mr. Clean" sponges we have in the States. Those things are miraculous, they'll remove any residue or stain. Watercolor artists even use them to correct mistakes on their watercolor paintings! I hoard them like gold.

 

 

OK, gals, you have my complete attention!  VBS, could you post the name of this product and/or a link to its website (even if it's not in English)?  Arcadia, do the Mr. Clean sponges remove iron stains from porcelain?  Do they remove hard-water deposits?  I see they make four different kinds -- which have you used?

 

I've used the "original" and the "kitchen" ones. Yes, I've gotten out iron stains and hard water deposits, although the porcelain never quite regains it's luster from the latter.

[T.o.b.y]

Okay, gang, I've started several new threads for Series 4; they're all in this subforum: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/forum/65-special-and-series-4/

 

SPOILERS!

 

Actually, let me link to each one:

 

Sherlock: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3571-spoilers-sherlock-holmes-in-s4/

John: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3570-spoilers-john-watson-in-s4/

Mycroft: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3573-spoilers-mycroft-holmes-in-s4/

The big bad: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3569-spoilers-the-big-bad-in-the-final-problem/

Favorite moments: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3575-spoilers-favorite-moments-and-images-from-s4/

Themes & story arcs: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3574-spoilers-themes-arcs-and-patterns-in-series-4/

 

And for just general discussion of TFP: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3562-the-final-problem-how-do-we-actually-enjoy-this-episode-spoilers-ahead/

 

 

Thank you so much, Arcadia!

[Van Buren Supernova]

OK, gals, you have my complete attention! VBS, could you post the name of this product and/or a link to its website (even if it's not in English)?

Wait, I think it's actually US made, United States Pumice company, the stuff itself is called Pumie scouring stick, googling it links to Amazon, Home Depot or even Walmart, so it seems like you can get it pretty easily and quite cheap. Lucky you. My local hardware shop sells it around 7-8 bucks but still cheaper than ordering it online that could cost 3-4X.

 

Here it is:

 

 

 

 

Okay, gang, I've started several new threads for Series 4; they're all in this subforum: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/forum/65-special-and-series-4/ SPOILERS!Actually, let me link to each one:Sherlock: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3571-spoilers-sherlock-holmes-in-s4/John: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3570-spoilers-john-watson-in-s4/Mycroft: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3573-spoilers-mycroft-holmes-in-s4/The big bad: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3569-spoilers-the-big-bad-in-the-final-problem/Favorite moments: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3575-spoilers-favorite-moments-and-images-from-s4/Themes & story arcs: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3574-spoilers-themes-arcs-and-patterns-in-series-4/ And for just general discussion of TFP: http://www.sherlockforum.com/forum/topic/3562-the-final-problem-how-do-we-actually-enjoy-this-episode-spoilers-ahead/ And an update: Things seem to be quieting down in the episode threads, at the moment we're waiting to see if it stays that way. Currently there's a riveting discussion about what else to watch now that there's no more S4 episodes. :P

Good god! Threads diarrhea! :p

Now a bunch more that I can't keep up!

 

P.S. Btw, not sure why, those threads don't appear in New Content.

I hardly use New Content (use My Content) but I suppose New Content is useful in searching for new threads you have never parcitipated with, right?

[Arcadia]

P.S. Btw, not sure why, those threads don't appear in New Content.

I noticed that at first, too. But are they showing up now?