Crazy Series 4 Rumours

[sittything]

 

 

Where did that one come from, by the way? It should go in the crazy rumors thread. I am superstitious about the crazy rumors thread, I have an irrational belief that everything we stock away there won't actually happen.

 

 

Hush, Hiddles is totally happening.  ;)

[Carol the Dabbler]

And now, holy mackerel of all plot twists (because I'm broody from the announcement today)... what if Irene returns in S4 with Sherlock's child?

 

I think the consensus (among those foolish enough to form an opinion) is that Irene is indeed in some sort of Witness Protection Program -- possibly the official American one, possibly an unofficial one designed by the brothers Holmes.  So if we do see her again (other than in flashbacks and mind-palace scenes), it will presumably imply that either she has come out of hiding (implying desperation, I would think) or Sherlock has gone to her (risking blowing her cover, so again, implying desperation) -- or possibly, one of the characters might happen to just stumble across her somewhere.

 

... then I will assume she meant to get pregnant, that's for sure. Nobody can tell me Irene would be stupid enough not to make sure her intimate encounters don't have any long-lasting effects on herself.

I was going to say the same thing -- but then it occurred to me that those terrorists may not have given her time to pack her things -- and then Sherlock just happened along. (And y'all keep posting, and I see that sfmpco just made that same point.)

[sfmpco]

Irene doesn't exactly strike me as mother material.  Definitely if she came out of hiding, there would have to be a DARN good reason for it.  I think, however, that she has just been given a nice, comfy room in his mind palace.  A room where she's always naked, of course. ;)

[T.o.b.y]

If Irene ever shows up again, I want her to be Mrs Norton to another Mrs Norton. Just as a little canon reference with a twist, you know. And honestly, if Irene Adler got pregnant without wanting to be, I doubt the child would see the light of day. Sorry, but she does not strike me as a pro-life kind of woman...

[Carol the Dabbler]

Though if she sees the kid as potential leverage -- a way of getting Sherlock to do what she wants him to do ....

 

[Carol the Dabbler]

Where did that one come from, by the way? It should go in the crazy rumors thread.

Sounds like a good idea to me!

[sfmpco]

I think Irene just might have enough sentiment for Sherlock that she might not terminate his DNA.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

I'm not going to quote the whole section of Adlock.  But it would be interesting if we did find out the Sherlock unexpectedly became a dad to her kid or Irene tried contacting him outside of mind palace stuff.

 

sfmpco: my brain works similarly so I'm not surprised to see your crazy plot twist, which would be a total Moftiss thing to do or at least make us think they were doing it as they twist it around some other way.  My brain came up with a nightmare of a story (if it had ever happened in real life it would be on national news) a few years back that I had to write down so that I could get it out of my brain and move on with life.

[sfmpco]

There is extracurricular canon  (not ACD but everything is up for grabs as canon by Moftiss) that Nero Wolfe was a descendant of Sherlock, and some fanfic writers have that child as offspring from Adlock.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Yes, I believe that's a pretty common suspicion in Wolfe fan circles -- even though judging by Wolfe's salient characteristics (fat and lazy), he seems more like a son of Mycroft.

 

[T.o.b.y]

I really need to sleep more... I get the weirdest ideas very late at night.

 

So far, every woman on the series has been given a shady side and a dark past, save Molly. So I was wondering whether they will go anywhere with Molly next. Lord, I hope not! Please, please, please don't ruin such a lovely character!

 

But if they did want to do something "shocking" with her... What if it turned out she had been working for Moriarty as well as Sherlock in The Reichenbach Fall? That would explain why Moriarty, too, survived (if he survived, which I am still actually hoping against hope he didn't), and also why she wasn't targeted by snipers.

 

Horrible idea, hm? I'm only putting it here to kill it. Because I believe in the magic of this thread and that nothing we post here will actually come to pass... :P

[J.P.]

I surely won't kill it. The evil Mo-s, remember?

[Arcadia]

Ak! Stop it, you two, you're scaring me!

[Carol the Dabbler]

So far, every woman on the series has been given a shady side and a dark past, save Molly.

 

And Sally Donovan -- don't forget Sally!

[SherlockedCAMPer]

Sally's shady side is the affair with Anderson brought up in ASiP

 

And they were going for the M people which leaves Sally out unless the other part of her shady side is the Sally is a cover and her real name is something like Michelle.

[sfmpco]

I seriously doubt Molly has a dark side.

[sfmpco]

I really need to sleep more... I get the weirdest ideas very late at night.

 

So far, every woman on the series has been given a shady side and a dark past, save Molly. So I was wondering whether they will go anywhere with Molly next. Lord, I hope not! Please, please, please don't ruin such a lovely character!

 

But if they did want to do something "shocking" with her... What if it turned out she had been working for Moriarty as well as Sherlock in The Reichenbach Fall? That would explain why Moriarty, too, survived (if he survived, which I am still actually hoping against hope he didn't), and also why she wasn't targeted by snipers.

 

Horrible idea, hm? I'm only putting it here to kill it. Because I believe in the magic of this thread and that nothing we post here will actually come to pass... :P

 

I do believe that Molly's time as a central character in a story will come up in S4, and I do not have a good feeling about it.  I mean, I don't think she's going to get killed off or anything, but I do think that something will happen between her and Sherlock that will result in tears.  I think Molly will get hurt somehow, whether physically or emotionally or both.

 

Oh the feels already....ack!

[Bendydoodle Cantaloupe]

I really need to sleep more... I get the weirdest ideas very late at night.

 

So far, every woman on the series has been given a shady side and a dark past, save Molly. So I was wondering whether they will go anywhere with Molly next. Lord, I hope not! Please, please, please don't ruin such a lovely character!

 

But if they did want to do something "shocking" with her... What if it turned out she had been working for Moriarty as well as Sherlock in The Reichenbach Fall? That would explain why Moriarty, too, survived (if he survived, which I am still actually hoping against hope he didn't), and also why she wasn't targeted by snipers.

 

Horrible idea, hm? I'm only putting it here to kill it.

Well, unfortunately for you, I've read a theory claiming Molly to be Moran. It's actually a perfect arrangement, really, because she is close to Sherlock -- an enemy hiding in plain sight -- so she knows him better than most, sees through all those layers and masks he puts on to protect himself. The reason why Moriarty dated her briefly was to check up on her and Sherlock, and get a read on how close she is to Sherlock. Since she and Moriarty are working together, no snipers were put on her in TRF. Molly's gotten bolder over the course of S3, because she's getting ready now. Ready for what?

 

The big reveal.

 

You think she's a just a nice girl, a kindhearted mousy little thing? No. She's just been waiting to get Sherlock's head on a silver platter. And, my God -- you see the mess of his own life Sherlock's made, exposing Mary and going to war with Magnussen? He'll be wide open for explotation.

 

Sweet dreams, Toby.

[sfmpco]

I honestly don't think they'll ever develop her character in that way simply for the fact that she was always meant to just be a one-off, she's non-original canon, and she's a supporting player.

 

We've had our Sebastian and our Moran - we had Sebastian in TBB and Lord Moran in TEH.  Now, should Moran escape from prison... maybe he could play a bigger villainous role, but it seems they've dealt with that name.

 

 

[Carol the Dabbler]

Sally's shady side is the affair with Anderson brought up in ASiP

 

And they were going for the M people which leaves Sally out unless the other part of her shady side is the Sally is a cover and her real name is something like Michelle.

 

Somehow I don't think a simple affair would fill the Moftiss notion of "shady" (especially since Sally was not the married one).

 

The original comment was regarding the women in Sherlock, which would include Sally unless you know something I don't.  (Though I do agree that one needs to be careful of people named Michele.)

[SherlockedCAMPer]

 

Sally's shady side is the affair with Anderson brought up in ASiP

 

And they were going for the M people which leaves Sally out unless the other part of her shady side is the Sally is a cover and her real name is something like Michelle.

Somehow I don't think a simple affair would fill the Moftiss notion of "shady" (especially since Sally was not the married one).

 

The original comment was regarding the women in Sherlock, which would include Sally unless you know something I don't. (Though I do agree that one needs to be careful of people named Michele.)

I read what you wrote and what it was about correctly, then my brain flipped it and then I realized that and went whatever I'm not changing it again.

[Arcadia]

The original comment was regarding the women in Sherlock, which would include Sally unless you know something I don't.  (Though I do agree that one needs to be careful of people named Michele.)

Very wise.

[Godolphin]

 

 

 

It's quite impossible to top this off, but I'll still continue with my own personal nightmare: Sherlock and Mycroft turn out to be only two of about 20 Holmes brothers. Every next episodes features at least one new sibling, played by a famous actor and sex symbol, each brother is smarter than the next, and they are all more intelligent than Sherlock.

 

 

20 Holmes brothers, or Sherlock the Time Lord?

 

Ridiculously unexpected: Sherlock gives up sleuthing to become a florist. Or succumbs to his penchant for dancing and flies off to join the Russian ballet.

Horribly unexpected: John Watson is not actually John Watson. He's Moriarty, who stole the identity of the real John Watson, who in fact died in Afghanistan. It really was Richard Brooke who blew his brains out.

Completely unexpected: John and Mary decide to move into 221 C Baker Street.

Mildly unexpected: the entire season revolves around Sherlock's blog about tobacco ash.

Fantastically unexpected: Sherlock discovers that his violin is a priceless, long-lost Stradivarius. He sells it and retires to Monaco.

Preposterously unexpected: John Watson, Sherlock Holmes, Molly Hooper, and Greg Lestrade become the subjects of a television reality show.

 

 

At the rate they are going, though, what would be truly unexpected? Airing Series 4 a wee bit earlier than 2017.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Ridiculously unexpected: Sherlock gives up sleuthing to become a florist.

Actually, there's precedent for that! Jeremy Brett (perhaps the definitive Victorian Holmes) also played Freddie Eynsford-Hill in My Fair Lady.  According to George Bernard Shaw (who wrote the original stage play, Pygmalion), Freddie ends up marrying Eliza Doolittle, and they open a florist shop.

 

 

And yes, we really do need more episodes soon.

 

[Arcadia]

20 Holmes brothers, or Sherlock the Time Lord?

 

Ridiculously unexpected: Sherlock gives up sleuthing to become a florist. Or succumbs to his penchant for dancing and flies off to join the Russian ballet.

Horribly unexpected: John Watson is not actually John Watson. He's Moriarty, who stole the identity of the real John Watson, who in fact died in Afghanistan. It really was Richard Brooke who blew his brains out.

Completely unexpected: John and Mary decide to move into 221 C Baker Street.

Mildly unexpected: the entire season revolves around Sherlock's blog about tobacco ash.

Fantastically unexpected: Sherlock discovers that his violin is a priceless, long-lost Stradivarius. He sells it and retires to Monaco.

Preposterously unexpected: John Watson, Sherlock Holmes, Molly Hooper, and Greg Lestrade become the subjects of a television reality show.

 

At the rate they are going, though, what would be truly unexpected? Airing Series 4 a wee bit earlier than 2017.

Oh, man, my ribs hurt ....