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Have anyone ever encountered a situation when someone you know fights a terminal dissease..? they fight, they cry, they are going through hell. You think they are on the worst end...

 

Then you look at the spouse or their loved one.

 

They are the ones who constantly put up brave and confident face, the one who says that everything is going to be okay. It's far much harder and more difficult. Hardly, and when no one is looking, when they have chance to let their armor down (never in front of the one who is ill), it's far more heartbreaking. It's more hurting to them. I believe if it's possible, they would be more than willing to share the physical pain and suffering.

 

This, although I cannot relate to the heartbreaking statement. I'd imagine that instead of bickering between each others or generally making a lot of mess by themselves, Mycroft who we know from the series is more likely to function as someone who arrange things silently, making sure that the necessary things happen while on the same time is keeping himself away from descending into emotional wrecks like the others.
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Could Mycroft be jealous of John?

I think that depends on whether we think Mycroft would allow himself to feel that level of attachment. I haven't really thought this through yet, but my instinct is that Mycroft's devotion to Sherlock is so controlled that he can set it aside at will. It's not that he doesn't love his brother, but that he doesn't allow that love to dictate his behavior. And I think something of his attachment to Sherlock may be obligatory ... his little brother is family, one protects one's family, therefore he watches out for Sherlock. Even when he says "your loss would break my heart", it's so understated that it's hard to know how breakable his hard heart really is.

 

At any rate, I think he can make himself disregard whatever feelings (pro or con) he has about John, and simply try to make use of him by recruiting him to watch over Sherlock. So even if he is jealous, he walls it off so much it's not really relevant.

 

......Maybe Mycroft  had been stung before in the past. He might had relationship, he explored (not a virgin). Beside advanced thinking, I can imagine the two brothers lead quite a 'normal' life once upon a time. They might be awkward, social life is ghastly (it always is!), they might be misfits but they were not jaded yet.

Then something happened to Mycroft that changes his view totally about caring and sentiment. .......

The "other one?"

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Maybe... a little bit. Unconsciously.

It's so hard to imagine his inner life. His behavior is not always purely logical. He gets irritated, angry, annoyed... emotions that are as useless as care or love.

 

As for the reason for being as he is:

That's another mystery. But it doesn't necessarily need a central tragic incident. In my case cannot point out any particular moment that made me into the misanthrope I am. Could be several smaller occurrences, influence of people, who knows?

 

As a very young person I tried meditation and the incentive was to control the mind, which is also controlling the emotions. Sadly, perseverance, or rather lack of it, was always my weak point, so I failed forging myself into a Mycroftian creature. :(

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Sherlock might represent innocence that Mycroft had lost himself a long time ago. The pragmatic, battle-hardened side despise it but the idealistic side cherish and want to protect it.

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Meh, Mycroftianism is overrated. I'd rather be an empathic goldfish.

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Not to me.

Someday I need Mycroftianism. Willing to pay. Willing to sacrifice irritating people.

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Should we start a new trend in philosophy?

 

Mycroftians: Despising people. Loving cakes. Carrying emotional umbrellas.

 

 

PS; how do you pronounce the word "peopley"?

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I think it's especially possible Mycroft will be jealous of John, or question the wisdom of Sherlock's attachment to him following on from His Last Vow. Up to now he has seemed to view John as a necessary evil. I would enjoy a Mycroft/ Mary scene, both to get his take on her, and also his attitude to John. Maybe he just sees John as Sherlock's latest pet, with Redbeard being his predecessor. I get the impression from Mycroft that he is usually more worried about how Sherlock will react in a personal situation, than that he blames the other person (same for Irene as John).

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PS; how do you pronounce the word "peopley"?

Pee...poo...ly

XD Fitting, isn't it?

Er .... far be it from me to correct such a fitting pronunciation ... ;)
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I rather suspect that corporate name is a blatant case of identity theft!  (Ironic, considering the sort of work they do.)

 

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That is only one of his many minor goverment positions.

 

Meretricious.

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Well, now we know what is Mycroft's spare time job.

http://www.mycroftinc.com/

 

I love their attempt to be "hip": "Old Guys On The Block ... blah di blah  ... Why trust those new kids?" :rolleyes:

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Added quote (hopefully the right one!)
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I need to make an In Defense of Mycroft Holmes blog or something.

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No, certainly not.  lol.  He'd find my blog appalling for sure.  That thought just came about from the Harry Potter sorting hat thread where are those links were automatically... Mycroft... Slytherin!

 

 

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Uh I have to ask you a question, I didn't know in which topic put it, but I thought it was connected with Mycroft, so....

In Sherlock series, in the last episodes, Mycroft talks so often about a dog (in italian its name is Barbarossa). Every time Sherlock is not at ease when the dog is mentioned and when he's dying he finds the though of the dog as a beautiful memory. I asked myself: what happened to this dog?

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Uh I have to ask you a question, I didn't know in which topic put it, but I thought it was connected with Mycroft, so....

In Sherlock series, in the last episodes, Mycroft talks so often about a dog (in italian its name is Barbarossa). Every time Sherlock is not at ease when the dog is mentioned and when he's dying he finds the though of the dog as a beautiful memory. I asked myself: what happened to this dog?

 

Dunno, other than the dog had to be put down since Sherlock says to mind palace Redbeard (English name) in HLV:  "They're putting me down too now.  It's no fun, is it?"

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Is Dad's Army playing near anyone else?  I can't find anything remotely near me.  It has a limited release date of today in the US, but where is this actual limited release?  I've checked Philly, NYC...

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Uh I have to ask you a question, I didn't know in which topic put it, but I thought it was connected with Mycroft, so....

In Sherlock series, in the last episodes, Mycroft talks so often about a dog (in italian its name is Barbarossa). Every time Sherlock is not at ease when the dog is mentioned and when he's dying he finds the though of the dog as a beautiful memory. I asked myself: what happened to this dog?

All we know is that the dog was put to sleep for some reason.

 

Is Dad's Army playing near anyone else?  I can't find anything remotely near me.  It has a limited release date of today in the US, but where is this actual limited release?  I've checked Philly, NYC...

Not near me yet. It's not getting great reviews, which will limit it's release even more, I'm afraid.

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Uh I have to ask you a question, I didn't know in which topic put it, but I thought it was connected with Mycroft, so....

In Sherlock series, in the last episodes, Mycroft talks so often about a dog (in italian its name is Barbarossa). Every time Sherlock is not at ease when the dog is mentioned and when he's dying he finds the though of the dog as a beautiful memory. I asked myself: what happened to this dog?

 

Dunno, other than the dog had to be put down since Sherlock says to mind palace Redbeard (English name) in HLV:  "They're putting me down too now.  It's no fun, is it?"

 

 

Yes, but I think that dog was special for Sherlock and that he's not so "traumatised" only because it was put to sleep. Maybe we'll know something more is S4

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I wish I could find it again ... there was something in an interview about Sherlock believing the dog had gone to a good place, or something like that ... then discovering later that it had died. In other words, he discovered he'd been lied to about what happened to his dog.

 

But they seem to be hinting there's something more to it, don't they? Unless it turns out to be a giant Scarlet Roll Mop.......

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