What *really* happened in Karachi?

[Van Buren Supernova]

Is there any Belstaff coat in those cloth lines?

If not, he is not leaving!

[Shadow Dweller]

Is there any Belstaff coat in those cloth lines?

If not, he is not leaving!

Sherlock ordered a new one online

[Godolphin]

Fans -> 

 

 

Steven -> <- Mark

 

Okay, J.P., that has to be the most elaborate set of emoticons I've yet encountered. Thanks for a huge grin!

 

And I feel like I'm going to lose my credibility as a Sherlock fan, but I honestly can't motivate myself to care what happened in Karachi...or whether anything continues to go on between Irene Adler and Sherlock. It was all a little too Lawrence of Arabia for me.

[Arcadia]

 

Fans -> 

 

 

Steven -> <- Mark

 

Okay, J.P., that has to be the most elaborate set of emoticons I've yet encountered. Thanks for a huge grin!

 

And I feel like I'm going to lose my credibility as a Sherlock fan, but I honestly can't motivate myself to care what happened in Karachi...or whether anything continues to go on between Irene Adler and Sherlock. It was all a little too Lawrence of Arabia for me.

 

 

I used to feel that way, then this yawning chasm known as the hiatus loomed before me, and I find I'm fascinated by the damnedest little thing, such as what is that stupid dark spot on Sherlock's wrist in TSo3 .....

[Godolphin]

 

 

I used to feel that way, then this yawning chasm known as the hiatus loomed before me, and I find I'm fascinated by the damnedest little thing, such as what is that stupid dark spot on Sherlock's wrist in TSo3 .....

 

 

 

True, the hiatus works on the mind like solitary confinement. It can make you go a bit funny.

 

If I were to be fascinated by something, instead of Karachi I think I'd prefer to imagine what each different time that Sherlock threw the CIA agent out of the window looked like.

 

(Okay, it's possible that his quip about losing count to Lestrade was just the drama queen in him coming out, and maybe it was only one time. But I do so relish the idea that Sherlock really did drag that agent up the stairs multiple times just to drop him on Mrs. Hudson's bins. There's something about the zeal with which he applied the riding crop in A Study in Pink that makes me believe he'd actually do it....)

 

Round 1: On the bins.

Round 2: On the bins.

Round 3: Straight through the awning over Speedy's, perhaps? (Compensation to owner follows...)

Round 4: Aim for the street...blast it, angle was off, he landed on a pedestrian. Sorry about that!

 

....

[J.P.]

Oh, I'm sure it was the Drama Queen. Carry that guy back to the second floor? Inconvenient.

[Shadow Dweller]

Nah, Sherlock tied a rope around his waist before giving him a swift dive into Mrs. Hudson's bins, that way he can haul the yo-yo man back inside without have to carry a smelly man upstairs for another round.

[Godolphin]

Oh, I'm sure it was the Drama Queen. Carry that guy back to the second floor? Inconvenient.

 

Inconvenient indeed!

Maybe I misinterpreted Lestrade. Maybe the question about how many times the CIA agent had fallen out of the window was a jab at the state of his injuries suggesting a good deal more than just an accidental fall...

 

And Lestrade didn't seem terribly keen to investigate any further into his injuries  ^_^  Nice how he has Sherlock's back that way.

[Godolphin]

Nah, Sherlock tied a rope around his waist before giving him a swift dive into Mrs. Hudson's bins, that way he can haul the yo-yo man back inside without have to carry a smelly man upstairs for another round.

 

Hee hee! Yo Yo Man. He sounds like a cellist.

 

Although I must have missed the rope when he blurred past Mrs. Hudson's window...

[Inge l-w]

Good theories! As for the dark strip showing on BC's wrist during the toast scene it has been explained elsewhere on this forum: they shot the whole Sholto sequence first, where he hurt his wrist to the point where it had to be bandaged: look closely at how his right shirt cuff seems to descend half-way down his wrist throughout the entire sequence at the reception from the moment he calls Mycroft. By the time his unending monologue in front of at least a hundred people had reached the toast stage, about four days on, the bandage had been reduced to a large Band-Aid (Hansaplast).

[Carol the Dabbler]

Yet another item to watch for!

[Boton]

 

 

 

If I were to be fascinated by something, instead of Karachi I think I'd prefer to imagine what each different time that Sherlock threw the CIA agent out of the window looked like.

 

(Okay, it's possible that his quip about losing count to Lestrade was just the drama queen in him coming out, and maybe it was only one time. But I do so relish the idea that Sherlock really did drag that agent up the stairs multiple times just to drop him on Mrs. Hudson's bins. There's something about the zeal with which he applied the riding crop in A Study in Pink that makes me believe he'd actually do it....)

 

Round 1: On the bins.

Round 2: On the bins.

Round 3: Straight through the awning over Speedy's, perhaps? (Compensation to owner follows...)

Round 4: Aim for the street...blast it, angle was off, he landed on a pedestrian. Sorry about that!

 

....

 

 

I will make you brownies if you turn this into a fan fic.  

[Carol the Dabbler]

Note:  No, Boton is not threatening to turn Godolphin into either a mythical being or a young Girl Scout.  In American culinary terminology, "brownies" are sort of a cross between cake and cookies, usually chocolate flavored.  (Though the term does seem to be going international these days.)

 

[sittything]

Brownies are a US exclusive thing?!?  

[Caya]

Fortunately, no .

[Inge l-w]

Unfortunately, it has nuts in it, yuck! What about a nice slice of Sachertorte, instead? Or Linzertorte, or Esterhazytorte, or even a nice Danish, since it's a Viennese invention?

[Caya]

Here you go (some of my favourite local slayers of diets ).

[Boton]

Note:  No, Boton is not threatening to turn Godolphin into either a mythical being or a young Girl Scout.  In American culinary terminology, "brownies" are sort of a cross between cake and cookies, usually chocolate flavored.  (Though the term does seem to be going international these days.)

 

 

Ha! Good catch, Carol.  I didn't think about that one getting lost in translation.

 

How about this:  If I get that fan fic, I will make Buckeyes.  I know those are regional, so, for those who've never had them, they are a creamy ball of peanut butter and sugar dipped in chocolate to resemble the "buckeye" nut but taste like heaven.

 

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/buckeyes-i/

[Inge l-w]

Dear Caya, as General Lee told General Grant at Appomatox Courthouse, I give up! How do you expect the entire Hansa League to keep up with Demel's, which has an even longer history than Sacher! It's a good thing the good people of Cuxhaven, for example, managed a rhubarb pie for dessert. I don't even like sweets that much, except for dark chocolate mousse, and I refuse to abide by their rule of eating their pudding (the British, I mean) , before their cheese and crackers!

As for the American agent, the whole threatened damage was just that, Sherlock threw him once out the window of the area at the back, on top of Mrs Hudson's bins, end of story. How else could the man have stood straight and punctilious at the foot of the aeroplane stairs in fairly good condition only about a day and a half later? Just the guileless, artless, ingenuous Mr Moffat playing mind games again! More on that after the planned rewatch!

[Boton]

As for the American agent, the whole threatened damage was just that, Sherlock threw him once out the window of the area at the back, on top of Mrs Hudson's bins, end of story. How else could the man have stood straight and punctilious at the foot of the aeroplane stairs in fairly good condition only about a day and a half later? Just the guileless, artless, ingenuous Mr Moffat playing mind games again! More on that after the planned rewatch!

 

Hold that thought, Inge, because I've gone back and forth on my opinion on that.  I'm looking forward to rewatching this weekend and maybe making a decision about how many times I think the CIA agent took a trip out the window.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

Unfortunately, it has nuts in it, yuck! What about a nice slice of Sachertorte, instead? Or Linzertorte, or Esterhazytorte, or even a nice Danish, since it's a Viennese invention?

 

In brownies, the nuts are optional.  I've had brownies both ways.  Danishes are good and wouldn't mind trying a torte (completely ignoring my allergies to wheat & dairy).

 

 

As for the American agent, the whole threatened damage was just that, Sherlock threw him once out the window of the area at the back, on top of Mrs Hudson's bins, end of story. How else could the man have stood straight and punctilious at the foot of the aeroplane stairs in fairly good condition only about a day and a half later? Just the guileless, artless, ingenuous Mr Moffat playing mind games again! More on that after the planned rewatch!

 

Hold that thought, Inge, because I've gone back and forth on my opinion on that.  I'm looking forward to rewatching this weekend and maybe making a decision about how many times I think the CIA agent took a trip out the window.

 

 

Looking forward to the re-watch as well.  Was it really only a day and a half and not longer between the window dropping & the airplane?  I figured it was longer than that.  Will need to re-watch and decide on that one.

[J.P.]

Hey, I thought the joke was obvious. :D The guy fell only once, but his injuries indicated more than that (=Sherlock gave him an extra treatment before throwing him out of the window - when he faces the guy for the first time, you can see his deductions pointing out weak spots on his body)

Leatrade's ironic remark was just telling Sherlock that he's noticed that. And I don't think our dear DI was expecting an answer. He surely had to make up a story for the case's documentation. Must be annoying - having to invent a story every time Sherlock went a bit too creative in his interpretation of law and order.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Brownies are a US exclusive thing?!?  

 

Fortunately, no .

Thanks, Martina, I'm happy to stand corrected. Some of my resource materials are just a tad outdated, I fear -- written by British expats who have lived in the US long enough to be unaware of what's made its way across the pond in the meanwhile.

  

In brownies, the nuts are optional.

 

Not in my house they aren't!  :P

 

I ... wouldn't mind trying a torte (completely ignoring my allergies to wheat & dairy).

I've heard that some tortes are traditionally made without flour -- just finely-ground nuts.  A friend served me some, and it was delicious!  Don't know if it had any dairy, but that would surely be optional -- like using coconut oil in place of butter.

[Inge l-w]

"Nuts" as General Mc Auliffe of the 101st Airborne Division telegraphed to the German request to surrender in the totally surrounded Bastogne a little while before the more famous Battle of the Bulge! It is one of my favourites, because it fulfills Carol's explanation about what brownies are (Manteuffel had his staff look the word up in a dictionary, because he couldn't understand the colloquialism.) It fulfills the prerequisite that you can make Tortes without flour, like a Mohntorte, it fulfills my basic aversion to them, it fulfills J.P.'s comment about Sherlock, law and order, which are not necessarily compatible concepts, and it supremely fulfills the Sherlock-CIA agent interaction. ^_^

Namely, Sherlock locates all the vulnerable spots, but there's no way on Earth that the man would be standing as he did, not even a crick in the neck. The whole timeline after NewYear's Eve and Dr Watson's brimful tumbler of something, she feels reassured enough to break into their flat again ( In my inmost being, I hope he found her with her lovely ringlets all free sleeping on his bed on his alleged birthday (6th of January)! And the whole Bond Air fiasco takes place the day after, going into the wee hours of the following day. There's just no way a man with broken ribs and suspected punctured lung could have been discharged from hospital in such a short time-frame!

Have we hijacked YET another thread, or is it just my paranoid self?

[J.P.]

Yes, we did. :D Probably in anticipation of re-watching ASIB.

Sorry, Inge, but it were several months between New year and Irene's appearance at 221B.

It's summer or late spring, the trees are shown having leaves, John is walking in with groceries wearing only a shirt.

Sherlock says he opened a safety deposit "few months ago". I also think someone said something about Sherlock was trying to break the code for 6 months. The American had some time to recover.