Game of Thrones

[Convict13]

I was just watching Game of Thrones and who should turn up but my old mate Mark Gatiss,

 

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/game_of_thrones_season_4_mark_gatiss_role_is_finally_revealed-2013-09

Edited August 7, 2014 by Caya
moved to the GoT thread

[Arcadia]

I guess I really should find a way to watch this show.... altho it sounds rather violent????

[Caya]

Very much so. If you're turned off by gore (and/or gratuitous nudity, it's HBO, after all) I'd try the books first. Just as violent but less gory.

[Arcadia]

Actually, I got as far as Storm of Swords (in the novels) but when I realized there was no end in sight I sort of lost interest. Didn't I hear he finally wrote an ending, though?

 

Yeah, maybe a bit too gory for me, perhaps I should just pick up the books again. (For some reason they can perpetrate all sorts of mayhem in a novel and it doesn't bother me...) He's a good writer.

[Caya]

GRRM writing an ending? That'll be the day . Most of us readers have resigned ourselves to learning how the series continues from the telly, since his telling the script writers his plans for the ending and such was one of the requirements HBO had (they've got his number ). Stopping at Storm of Swords is as good a point as any, imho, since the two novels following it were rather disappointing and the next one is still being written (one hopes, at least). Otherwise, Geek & Sundry say it best:

 

[T.o.b.y]

I guess I really should find a way to watch this show.... altho it sounds rather violent????

 

Rather violent? That's got to be the understatement of the year... The quality is really good, but it should be rated 18+ and I can only stand it for about ten minutes at a time and only in the right company. I'd never sit down and watch the series on my own, especially not just before going to bed. The concept seems to be, let's think of the worst that could happen, and then show something even worse.

 

[Arcadia]

Oh dear. Okay ladies, thanks for the heads up, I think I'll just go read LOTR again. At least it ends.

[Carol the Dabbler]

The concept seems to be, let's think of the worst that could happen, and then show something even worse.

 

So this is what Moftiss used as inspiration for "Last Vow"?

[Caya]

With all due respect to His Last Vow, the Red Wedding is worse. Not even close. I refer you to this tweet collection, called RedWeddingTears (spoilers, though I don't think they'll spoiler a lot out of context) - though you have to scroll down a bit, the last couple tweets are from yet another rather intense scene. Or have some reaction videos (book readers, who knew what was coming, gleefully filming their innocent friends' reactions). GRRM may be The Great Bearded Glacier but man can that guy write intense plot twists.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Well, just give 'em time -- Moftiss are still learning! 

 

[Caya]

They'll be hard-pressed to emulate that, however much time passes, I'm afraid, due to their source material. When Sherlock jumped from the roof, few people honestly thought he would be truly dead. With GRRM, well I can't talk about this without doling out massive spoilers, but there's a certain chapter in the first book where such expectations are pretty much ground into fine dust.

 

From that point on, you are truly worried whenever one of your favourite characters in GoT gets into a sticky situation, because it's most definitely not a given that their head will be at its proper place at the end of the scene. I very much doubt that Moftiss will do that to Sherlock and we'll have a series 5 called John.

[Convict13]

I guess I really should find a way to watch this show.... altho it sounds rather violent????

 

 

it is violent, sometimes incredibly so.  So much nudity and sex scenes, but it also has great stories and interesting characters and you never know what it going to happen next.

[Carol the Dabbler]

From that point on, you are truly worried whenever one of your favourite characters in GoT gets into a sticky situation, because it's most definitely not a given that their head will be at its proper place at the end of the scene. I very much doubt that Moftiss will do that to Sherlock and we'll have a series 5 called John.

I see.  Of course the show really could go on that way for a while -- Series 6 is called Lestrade, Series 7 is Molly, Series 8 is Anderson .... and so on till Series 23 is called Archie (he'd be about old enough by then).

[Caya]

 

For all us non-UK folks, this man is a news anchor at Channel 4 and his name is Jon Snow.

 

eta: For non-GoT readers, Jon Snow is the son or nephew (depending on whom you ask) of Lord Eddard Stark, and the Starks' words are, "Winter Is Coming".

 

 

[T.o.b.y]

Oh my god, Caya. For real? Or did someone photoshop this? Anyway, it's very funny either way.

[Caya]

Since Jon Snow is well aware of Jon Snow,

 

 

I'd wager it's real.

[bborchar]

My first post in a long time...

 

Season 5 has wrapped filming, is anyone else impatiently waiting for the first trailer like I am?

[Carol the Dabbler]

Hey, bborchar -- welcome back!  Nice to hear from you again!

 

[Van Buren Supernova]

Ah,

It's so quiet in here.

 

For some reason, this Season 5, I'm not into GoT like I was.

Read the book twice, devoured articles, listening to podcast etc. Not merely casual fan back then.

 

Maybe part of the reason because it moves quite far away from the books, but I am not a purist and understand the necessity.

Maybe it takes the author too long to write the book, but I'm not in position to complain about that as well.

Was lucky to just start reading when 5 books had been published.

 

But why? I almost bored with this season and it's only 5 episodes aired.

[Caya]

Lucky you - I picked up book one by chance not long after it was published. One of the reasons I'm so relaxed about the hiatus - when you can still measure years in single digits, it's not really waiting :lol:.

 

Haven't seen S5 yet, but from what I've heard, Sansa is effed just as much in the changed storyline as in the book version. I can understand some of the changes though, they had entirely too large a cast as is, and that way they're getting rid of some of the new chars at least.

[Van Buren Supernova]

Oh wow.

Hats off to your patience.

I'm sure there were a lot of re-reading to refresh the previous books everytime the new one was published then.

It's probably a silly question, but do you know/read his other related works? There are novella like The Tales of Dunk and Egg, The Princess and The Queen and The Rouge Prince.

 

The latest published work is World of Ice and Fire, although it was not written directly by him. It's quite a fascinating history of Westeros.

 

Yes, Sansa story line changes quite a lot including some of other plots. There are nice changes, but there are also changes that kind of take away the essence of the book.

[Caya]

I've read the Dunk and Egg comic and quite liked it, but not the novellas itself. I'm currently reading the Rogues anthology (which, overall, is a bit of a mixed bag) and the Rogue Prince, while explaining a couple interesting stuff as far as background lore is concerned, isn't GRRMs best work imho. I do appreciate though that, after being teased by female fans repeatedly that he writes f/f scenes but no m/m, he's visibly trying to get over his self-admitted hang-ups by including a prince who is described to share the bed with both his lady wife and male lover (m/m/f is getting closer) ;).

 

I did re-read the first three books when #4 finally was announced, but haven't done so yet with #4 and #5 (nothing much happening there if you ask me :P). The site westeros.org (whose owners and admins are the authors of the compendium you mentioned) was a great help there. I'd have missed so much without that reference!

[Van Buren Supernova]

Dunk and Egg novella is much better than the rouge anthology imho. I haven't read the comic yet, can't really picture it in the comic but mostly the difficulty to source it.

 

ASoS is the most exciting book, but I actually enjoy TFoC, the one that is most unpopular to my knowledge, probably because Lannisters are my favorite POV, and it's fun to be in their head.

 

Anyway, although personally I don't like it, I heard a lot of good review about season 5. Hopefully you will enjoy it, but I can see it might spoil the book to certain level. It's probably good to treat both show and book as separate entities.

[Caya]

Well by that point I'm honestly glad that the series is bound to give me some closure because I'm far from convinced that GRRM is ever going to finish the book series (call it the Douglas Adams Paranoia Syndrome). So I sure don't mind being spoilered.

 

I enjoy the Lannister POVs a great deal, too. I still love Tyrion to bits, and Jaime's POV was amazing because it so completely changed my view of the character. I was a bit curious when I started reading Cersei's chapters if they'd similarly shift my perspective, but nope, still a [censored] for the most part imho :P.

[Van Buren Supernova]

:lol: Cersei is a fascinating character to me. She is shaped from her entitlement, twisted together with how she views the world, it becomes interesting. She is actually a feminist but maybe in a bit of different way.

 

Although it was announced that WoW is not coming this year, I have strange feeling that it will, end of this year. But then again, I haven't been dissapointed like you. With his last words in book 4, I can't imagine how did he manage to publish DoD  5 years apart. How could he..

 

The show will definetely catch up, I really hope they don't screw it up, like what they did in the Sept scene in Breaker of Chain season 4. It was horrendous imho.