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[Caya]

Yep, as a seperate religion, but only like, say, Catholics and Protestants are recognized as seperate by our state. From what I gathered (only got German links for that, though, sorry), whether or not they are Muslims is even a point of debate among the Alevites of Austria. The biggest local Muslim organization doesn't recognize them as such afaik, but since they're basically a private association (one heavily influenced by Wahhabites, afaik) that's not all that important. Alevites are officially recognized, period, whether or not their fellow Muslims agree.

[Doe]

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"When it is a question of money, everbody is of the same religion."    Voltaire

 

 

[Arcadia]

People who are different have always been a target :( ...

 

Truer words were never spoken, I'm afraid. In this area, it's Hispanics. :(

 

I wish I knew something to say to make it better, but I don't. Be safe, my friends.

 

 

[Carol the Dabbler]

If it's any consolation, Doe, sooner or later there's bound to be a new target group, whoever's just come into your country.

 

I've seen photos of "help wanted" signs in the US, from many years ago, where there was another sign underneath saying "no Irish need apply."  Since then we've had an Irish president (Kennedy), so obviously things have improved for them.  Nowadays, the target group here is the newer immigrant groups, whoever those may be at the moment.

[Van Buren Supernova]

Count me in as someone who has never heard of Alevi as well. I hope everything will be okay Doe, and for everyone too.

 

Imo, not only Alevi muslim is misunderstood, I think most muslims are, because of some radical groups who act in the name of the religion. I have known wonderful, great people who happen to be muslim. One of good friends that I would trust my life with (I don't have many good friends, so one is really count) is muslim. I had met horrible ones too, but same can be said with people I know from other religions.

 

What life has taught me is a person shouldn't be judged from the attributes they carry, whether it's race, religion, sexual orientation, social status, skin color or whatever label. There are some who choose to be defined by those, but for most, no.

I believe, unfortunately, islam is one of the most misunderstood religion. And believe me, when those happen, terrorist attack, the terrorist groups who associate themselves with said religion claim it's what they are supposed to do, people jump to stereotype, and there, most of them, the real muslims are as hurt as the rest of the world.

 

I used to believe that most people have good common sense to understand that stereotyping is stupid, but sadly, I was wrong, apparently there are a lot more of them who are actually that stupid, even the educated ones, who are supposed to know better, especially those with responsibility and authority to educate others. It bums me. A lot. I feel like it shatters a lot of my confidence about people, it's hard for me to accept that my view was more on the naive side back then, and it doesn't seem to get better with events around the world lately.

 

However, still, there are people with good heads on their shoulders. At the smaller scale, here. We are from many different backgrounds.

Although not all, at least it seems most of us understand that people shouldn't be judged with those attributes and stereotyped. It makes me feel better knowing that.

[Pseudonym]

Anyone seen the new IT trailer? A lot of balloon John floating around being creepy ;)

[SherlockedCAMPer]

Didn't watch the trailer but I did see a still shot. No I won't be seeing the film as it is not my genre to watch.

[Pseudonym]

I won't be watching it either, I saw the original one when I was about 5 and that traumatised me enough. Imagining the trailer balloon was really John investigating the case was amusing though!  :lol:

 

 

[Van Buren Supernova]

I have learned that it's not wise to watch horror when you are living alone, and I still want to enjoy my peaceful night.

 

But John's balloon is cute, although I'm disappointed that he is interested is Sudoku more than Sherlock's case.

 

 

Other stuff,

I am weirdly happy when other people are observant, and I met two couple of days ago.

 

Was heading for a money changer, I made only two transactions with the guy before, the last one was almost a year ago (July 2016) and it was nothing extraordinary, don't think I left any different impression.

 

But I noticed he saw me from afar with a hint of recognition (like this moment, he is always crowded by customers and attending to them), and when I was there I only need to say a word of the currency I needed and he quickly checked it out, contemplated with himself and had discussion with his workmate, I only caught a few words as they spoke in foreign language, to my understanding, he negotiated for me without me asking using their 'special' rate, all this when he was still in the middle of transactions with other customers (yes plural). And there, he gave me the greatest rate (I checked) without me needing to do anything. Well, on our previous transaction I made him did that, so I guess he remembered and saved times for both of us.

 

After the almost conversation-less transaction, out of curiosity I asked and confirmed that he indeed remembers me, and that is, remarkable, as he deals with hundreds of people from every background daily. To be clear, I didn't do anything funny to him (if any of you mistaken for the sentence 'I made him') :p, what I did was merely doing the slight research beforehand, knew and asked what I want, and walked if he couldn't fulfill it, that's all, didn't twist his arm or bored him to death with any bargaining. My transaction amount was common and we were in multinational place so my look doesn't stand out. So, he has my respect for memory and efficiency.

 

Then, later that day, I made a split second decision to cut my hair. Happened to finish all I had to do earlier, saw this haircut place (those very efficient ten minute cut) and decide a fast haircut would be nice. So I dig my money, put down my bag and this guy predicted every single thing I wanted with my hair correctly without me saying anything.

 

I have straight, long slightly below shoulder blade hair, my 'hair product' like John, is only shampoo. Cut it anytime I feel like it, mostly I don't care as I always tie it up. So he predicted the length I want to cut, accurately, then how I want the shape, and later that I prefer to thin it etc without me saying anything (I am aware that he was probably able to see my hair and predict its history, but my hair thickness had grown back to its original and I don't even know if there is any shape left. It's not super great but it's not damaged, as in, it's as ordinary as it can be).

 

What convinced me that he was more observant than average, he tried to guess my hobby from the style of my bag and watch (he was not very wrong), and I believe beside his knowledge about hair stuff, most probably he made those observations from how I look (messy, little regard with how my hair looks and even when I was not in the rush, I moved fast and the very reason I choose to cut my hair there where basically most of his regular customer is not from my demographic, is for practically, so he guessed things I want to do with my hair based on that).

 

Anyway, I don't know what I'm smoking. I'm probably just happy that other people are observant, which means nothing really and I'm not sure why I am excited to say it here. :p

[J.P.]

Arwel amazed me like that. And I rember in the school we've had a new director; once we have met eye to eye and he called me with my name - without ever seeing me before! I cannot remember names or positions of the coworkers I work with for years. So recognizing people and remembering names seems like magic to me.

 

I even have a theory: I don't see people as people, but as things that wander around in my sight. They are mostly the same - nuisances.

[J.P.]

Oh, yes, watching the IT trailer - I don't think that ANY of ppl who watched Sherlock didn't think aboout the obvious. :D

[Carol the Dabbler]

... I rember in the school we've had a new director; once we have met eye to eye and he called me with my name - without ever seeing me before! I cannot remember names or positions of the coworkers I work with for years. So recognizing people and remembering names seems like magic to me.

 

I even have a theory: I don't see people as people, but as things that wander around in my sight.

 

So presumably you don't make the slightest effort to remember their names?  Well, maybe.  Or it's possible that you're genetically face-blind to some extent.  I have a bit of that (inherited from my mother), whereas Alex is amazingly good with names and faces -- which can be awfully embarrassing to me.  We'll run into someone at a street fair or in the grocery store, and he'll stop and chat with them.  Meanwhile I'm thinking they look vaguely familiar -- or maybe they just remind me of someone else -- so should I join in the conversation (and listen for clues to their identity) or should I just stand there with the traditional little my-husband-is-talking-to-someone-from-work smile on my face?

[J.P.]

I probably don't pay enough attention. But it's not made deliberately or even consciously. One of those little reflex reactions that make our life hard. It works better if there is something special about a person, like a name that I connect with something, but generally I don't interact with most of those people on regular basis, so my brain doesn't recognize the information as important. :P

 

As for faces - I don't have problems to recognize faces on film. I might not know the name but I will often remember a movie the said faces appeared before.

[Pseudonym]

If I want to remember anyone's name or face that I'm not seeing regularly I have to make a point of remembering it. There is a 'mega memory' technique that I use to remember things where I have tie something to something else via a story - it works well and is quite simple for names as long as I consciously remember to do it. Normally, unless it's someone new that I will be interacting with regularly, then I don't bother.

[Arcadia]

Anyone seen the new IT trailer? A lot of balloon John floating around being creepy ;)

I started to watch the trailer but it creeped me out. Definitely not a movie I'll be seeing!

[Van Buren Supernova]

I used to be good at remembering details like phone number or even identification number, but now it's all gone because I rely too much on technology. I remember faces but forget the stories about who and where I met them. And now, my biggest struggle is remembering how many children my friends have, as I can never seem to print it onto my brain.

 

 

Anyway, it's not as much as rant worthy, but I hate it when it happens.

 

They get the name of the fish wrong. Most probably, they get the picture wrong.

They are talking about venomous blenny, most probably they aimed for Meiacanthus nigrolineatus but they put Meiacanthus grammistes picture instead. Although both are venomous, Nigrolineatus is more notorious.

I was interested in marine fish identification back then and some still stay in head, and this sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

This article is recommended by good aps, and usually very reliable in finding trustworthy source. Upon checking, this particular web is more into tech (maybe they should stick with that)

 

And this one as well:

Hmmpph..

I know I'm b*tching :p but I remember this stuck for couple of hours before the editor or whoever fixed it.

[Carol the Dabbler]

All the link does is bring up the same photo -- is that what you're talking about? Or am I extra dense today?

[Pseudonym]

I can't see what's wrong with the second one...?

[SherlockedCAMPer]

I can't see what's wrong with the second one...?

Look closely near the writer's photo. Because, as the case was with me for several minutes, you see but do not observe.

[Pseudonym]

Ahhh, thanks Camper! God that's minuscule, excellent attention to detail VBS.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Duh! Guess I looked at everything else!

[SherlockedCAMPer]

Duh! Guess I looked at everything else!

So did I. Then I went duh when I realized what it was.

[Van Buren Supernova]

That's right Camper.

Sometimes this kind of thing attracts my p-i-t-a pickiness, but for many others I don't see them even when they're under my nose.

 

I don't know what link you have, Carol, I didn't include any link. But if you google Meiacanthus nigrolineatus that is not the correct fish in the article I attached. The one pictured is Meiacanthus grammistes.

That is not a light mistake when the article is about venomous fish, although 'lucky' for them, both blennies are venomous but still, it's misidentification.

[Carol the Dabbler]

I meant the link in the Belfast article. Or at least I get a link. Am I the only one?

[Arcadia]

Do you mean the "began the service" link, Carol? That's not a link, it's a picture of a link.