Crazy Series 4 Rumours

[Caya]

By popular demand, here's the topic for the really outlandish theories (tv tropes calls those Epileptic Trees) and rumours about the upcoming (ha ha) series 4 that you either came across during your internet meanderings or developed yourselves. Doesn't matter whether you really mean it or are just clowning around, btw . Once series 4 is aired, we can then revisit this and determine who was crazier, us or Moftiss.

 

I'll start this off with a beautiful (non-serious) one that Plaidder (of Law Like Love fame) invented: What if Sherlock is really the father of Mary's baby?

[Boton]

So glad you started this thread, Caya, because this weekend I saw this quote from Steven Moffat:

 

"Of course, it’s far too early to say what’s coming, but we’re reasonably confident that the very next thing to happen to Sherlock and John, is the very last thing you’d expect…”

 

OK, Mr. Moffat, I'll play:  The last thing I'd expect is for Sherlock and John to come into 221B and find Mrs. Hudson in flagrante with Mycroft, using Irene's riding crop.  

[Schlauer Fuchs]

So glad you started this thread, Caya, because this weekend I saw this quote from Steven Moffat:

 

"Of course, it’s far too early to say what’s coming, but we’re reasonably confident that the very next thing to happen to Sherlock and John, is the very last thing you’d expect…”

 

OK, Mr. Moffat, I'll play:  The last thing I'd expect is for Sherlock and John to come into 221B and find Mrs. Hudson in flagrante with Mycroft, using Irene's riding crop.  

 

Hmm, so since Mr Moffat told you they'll do what you least expect to happen and you least expect this nice little scenario, you must now expect them to do it - which is why it won't happen, because you expect it to happen so that it can't be the last thing for you to expect and thus for them to do.... right?

[Boton]

 

 

Hmm, so since Mr Moffat told you they'll do what you least expect to happen and you least expect this nice little scenario, you must now expect them to do it - which is why it won't happen, because you expect it to happen so that it can't be the last thing for you to expect and thus for them to do.... right?

 

I like to think of this post as a low-cost insurance policy.  If Moftiss are reading online discussions to see what people expect and discarding those ideas, then I'm spared from having to watch this.  On the other hand, if they perceive that I just double dog dared them to do it, they have to make it funny.  Win/win.  

[Arcadia]

This is already my favorite thread on the whole forum.        

 

Not as crazy as the first two, but I read one yesterday I thought was pretty nutz: Janine and Mary are sisters.

[sherlockandjohn]

John decides he's had enough of both Sherlock and Mary, and runs off to the Caribbean, where he encounters a smugglers' ring and gets into trouble for having found a piece of lost goods that they want returned. Sherlock, meanwhile, is hunting him down, and Mary seeks out her ex, David. Sherlock finds John, eventually saves him (after they've both nearly got themselves killed), and they settle down on Jamaica.

 

That was mine, by the way...

[Janie]

OK, trying to think of something crazy I came up with this: the third Holmes brother is actually John as a result of an affair between Daddy Holmes and Mrs Hudson! 

[Bendydoodle Cantaloupe]

 

I'll start this off with a beautiful (non-serious) one that Plaidder (of Law Like Love fame) invented: What if Sherlock is really the father of Mary's baby?

 

Some of the Johnlock shippers are alright with Mary. Those Johnlockers just think, "Yay, threesomes!" In fact, I saw a drawing of Mary getting a kiss on the cheek from both John and Sherlock at once.

[T.o.b.y]

 

 

I'll start this off with a beautiful (non-serious) one that Plaidder (of Law Like Love fame) invented: What if Sherlock is really the father of Mary's baby?

 

Some of the Johnlock shippers are alright with Mary. Those Johnlockers just think, "Yay, threesomes!" In fact, I saw a drawing of Mary getting a kiss on the cheek from both John and Sherlock at once.

 

 

 

Maybe that's what set those "will Sherlock be part of a love triangle" people off... Although I think they were trying to hint at Irene and Molly. Or Molly and Janine. Or Janine and Irene. Or...

 

(Ooooh, this needs to go in my "what would you like to see in series 4" list: Irene actually meets Janine briefly, and all she does is give her one long disdainful look. That could be wonderful.)

[SherlockedCAMPer]

My crazy head canon of the moment (if I were to ever write a fanfic of Sherlock this would not be in it probably): Sherlock comes across as normal/ordinary complete with the usual social skills of such people (ie us when we're not talking Sherlock to everyone else).  He is polite and keeps his deductions to himself.  He comes across as caring and loving w/o having a significant other.  He understands people's facial expressions and other non-verbal social cues without issues and responds appropriately.  Everyone wonders what happens to Sherlock (including his family).  Lestrade even comments that Sherlock is now a good man not just a great one.  Sherlock starts to give Molly "the time of day" with their brief conversations at St. Bart's.

 

Then we realize it is a dream of Mummy Holmes as we see her asleep with a smile on her face.  Then all of a sudden we see Mycroft wake with a start, drenched in sweat, and realize it was one of his bad dreams.  He calls his esteemed little brother and asks what was in the food they had the night before as he's not prone to nightmares and familial sentiment so figures he must have ate something that didn't agree with him.

[Carol the Dabbler]

I'll start this off with a beautiful (non-serious) one that Plaidder (of Law Like Love fame) invented: What if Sherlock is really the father of Mary's baby?

I love this quote from that article:

 

And then I thought, Jesus, don’t do that. It would be kind of cool in a shocking way for one moment, but it would also completely undermine the entire way you’ve written John & Sherlock’s relationship, and your characterization of Mary, and your characterization of Sherlock—plus it wouldn’t even be credible, plus it would land you in the middle of a very unpleasant situation that would be hard to get out of.

 

And then I thought: Perhaps the whole problem with Moffat’s writing for Sherlock is that he does not have the little voice in his head telling him that. So instead, when he comes up with a DRAMATIC! but, in every other way, problematic and asinine plot twist, he just goes ahead and does it.

[Arcadia]

Okay, so the last thing we expect is the thing that's going to happen, right? In that case, the last thing I expect is a 10-minute series recap, in which every plot hole is plugged and every dangling question undangled. Then I don't expect them to go forth with a really tightly plotted, coherent mystery, which Sherlock brilliantly and cleverly solves with John's able assistance, complete with assorted delightful cameos by the rest of the cast. I don't expect to find out that CAM and Moriarty are merely and sincerely dead, as will not be demonstrated in a performance by the Lollipop Guild.

[Arcadia]

And I don't expect the recap to be at least half as clever as this one....

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFKHBygDZMY#t=257

[sittything]

Is this like Beetlejuice where if we say it enough times it will come true/appear?

[T.o.b.y]

Okay, so the last thing we expect is the thing that's going to happen, right? In that case, the last thing I expect is a 10-minute series recap, in which every plot hole is plugged and every dangling question undangled. Then I don't expect them to go forth with a really tightly plotted, coherent mystery, which Sherlock brilliantly and cleverly solves with John's able assistance, complete with assorted delightful cameos by the rest of the cast. I don't expect to find out that CAM and Moriarty are merely and sincerely dead, as will not be demonstrated in a performance by the Lollipop Guild.

 

 

Oh, if only.

 

I'd like to add something: The last thing I expect is that all the riddles of The Reichenbach Fall will finally be explained, and in a way that satisfies me so much that I can go back to watching that episode with unalloyed pleasure.

[Arcadia]

Is this like Beetlejuice where if we say it enough times it will come true/appear?

Hey, it's worth a try! If we don't expect it to work, maybe it will!

 

 

How about we try reverse psychology too...

 

What I DO expect to happen (and therefore it won't):

Molly kills John because he stands in the way of her getting Sherlock. Mary replaces John, it's implied Sherlock is sleeping with her, but half the fandom denies it's happening. In an tender scene, Moriarity is revealed to be alive and married to Lestrade, but nobody is sure what gender he is any more. Mrs. Hudson turns into a bird and flies around 221B all day, squawking. Sherlock doesn't notice the difference. Every cast member, including the extras, openly carries and fires off at least three rounds per episode, killing at least one major character a week. The last episode ends on a cliffhanger, much to everyone's surprise.

[sittything]

 

Is this like Beetlejuice where if we say it enough times it will come true/appear?

Hey, it's worth a try! If we don't expect it to work, maybe it will!

 

 

How about we try reverse psychology too...

 

What I DO expect to happen (and therefore it won't):

Molly kills John because he stands in the way of her getting Sherlock. Mary replaces John, it's implied Sherlock is sleeping with her, but half the fandom denies it's happening. In an tender scene, Moriarity is revealed to be alive and married to Lestrade, but nobody is sure what gender he is any more. Mrs. Hudson turns into a bird and flies around 221B all day, squawking. Sherlock doesn't notice the difference. Every cast member, including the extras, openly carries and fires off at least three rounds per episode, killing at least one major character a week. The last episode ends on a cliffhanger, much to everyone's surprise.

 

 

#EPIC

 

ETA:  If it does in fact work like this then I am 100% sure that Tom Hiddleston will NOT be the 3rd Holmes brother.  

[Arcadia]

I'll second that expectation!

[avoca]

 

 

 

I'll start this off with a beautiful (non-serious) one that Plaidder (of Law Like Love fame) invented: What if Sherlock is really the father of Mary's baby?

 

Some of the Johnlock shippers are alright with Mary. Those Johnlockers just think, "Yay, threesomes!" In fact, I saw a drawing of Mary getting a kiss on the cheek from both John and Sherlock at once.

 

 

Maybe that's what set those "will Sherlock be part of a love triangle" people off... Although I think they were trying to hint at Irene and Molly. Or Molly and Janine. Or Janine and Irene. Or...

 

(Ooooh, this needs to go in my "what would you like to see in series 4" list: Irene actually meets Janine briefly, and all she does is give her one long disdainful look. That could be wonderful.)

 

oh, I can see irene and janine.. 

[T.o.b.y]

 

Is this like Beetlejuice where if we say it enough times it will come true/appear?

Hey, it's worth a try! If we don't expect it to work, maybe it will!

 

 

How about we try reverse psychology too...

 

What I DO expect to happen (and therefore it won't):

Molly kills John because he stands in the way of her getting Sherlock. Mary replaces John, it's implied Sherlock is sleeping with her, but half the fandom denies it's happening. In an tender scene, Moriarity is revealed to be alive and married to Lestrade, but nobody is sure what gender he is any more. Mrs. Hudson turns into a bird and flies around 221B all day, squawking. Sherlock doesn't notice the difference. Every cast member, including the extras, openly carries and fires off at least three rounds per episode, killing at least one major character a week. The last episode ends on a cliffhanger, much to everyone's surprise.

 

 

:rofl:

 

Oh dear, oh dear. Don't make me laugh so hard so late in the evening. I'll spill my tea all over my pillow soon.

 

It's quite impossible to top this off, but I'll still continue with my own personal nightmare: Sherlock and Mycroft turn out to be only two of about 20 Holmes brothers. Every next episodes features at least one new sibling, played by a famous actor and sex symbol, each brother is smarter than the next, and they are all more intelligent than Sherlock.

 

 

[Arcadia]

:lol5:

!!!

And I expect each episode to last only 20 minutes (one minute per brother -- it's a clue!), with an additional 10 minutes of "Behind the Scenes" material featuring a coffee cup on an empty chair.

[Bendydoodle Cantaloupe]

 

It's quite impossible to top this off, but I'll still continue with my own personal nightmare: Sherlock and Mycroft turn out to be only two of about 20 Holmes brothers. Every next episodes features at least one new sibling, played by a famous actor and sex symbol, each brother is smarter than the next, and they are all more intelligent than Sherlock.

 

[SherlockedCAMPer]

I just had a chewbaca tonal moment reading the picture. Then started laughing some more.

[Carol the Dabbler]

I'd like to add something: The last thing I expect is that all the riddles of The Reichenbach Fall will finally be explained, and in a way that satisfies me so much that I can go back to watching that episode with unalloyed pleasure.

Oh, that's easy enough -- just consider ALL of the explanations in "Empty Hearse" to be spurious to one degree or another. Then supply your own REAL explanation. Works for me! 

 

[T.o.b.y]

 

I'd like to add something: The last thing I expect is that all the riddles of The Reichenbach Fall will finally be explained, and in a way that satisfies me so much that I can go back to watching that episode with unalloyed pleasure.

Oh, that's easy enough -- just consider ALL of the explanations in "Empty Hearse" to be spurious to one degree or another. Then supply your own REAL explanation. Works for me! 

 

 

But I don't have a real explanation! When I was trying to figure things out prior to series 3 airing, I could never come up with a theory that answered all my questions and would make a great story. I kind of expected the Sherlock writers to do that for me - hey, they're the professionals! I guess I expected too much.