Episode 4.0: The Abominable Bride (alias The Special)

[sittything]

I think my very favorite parts of that video are:

 

"All lives end.  All hearts are broken.  Caring is not an advantage..."  "How would you know?"

 

"Alone is what I have.  Alone protects me."  "How would you know?"

 

 

Mycroft cares and Sherlock is not alone.

[LJA]

The first time i watched it i was a bit confused to what was happening but when i watched it the second time and paid more attention it made a lot more sense.

[Arcadia]

Hello, LJA! Welcome to the forum! I think you just echoed what a lot of us thought, and there's still bits I haven't completely decided about, I think. But the more I figure it out, the more I like it.

 

Hope you'll jump right in with any questions or observations you might have, about the Special or anything else.

[Arcadia]

Aha, look what I found! We've referred to this earlier but I don't think it's been posted yet: the TAB post-mortem. Haven't had time to watch it yet but it should be entertaining.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IfDpRzbhJk
 
 

[sittything]

Aha, look what I found! We've referred to this earlier but I don't think it's been posted yet: the TAB post-mortem. Haven't had time to watch it yet but it should be entertaining.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IfDpRzbhJk

 

 

 

I was just coming here to share this!   Gotta take care of a couple things but then gonna sit down and watch it with a glass of wine.

[Pamela]

Aha, look what I found! We've referred to this earlier but I don't think it's been posted yet: the TAB post-mortem. Haven't had time to watch it yet but it should be entertaining.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IfDpRzbhJk

 

 

It was! Thanks so much!

[Inge l-w]

Yes, well, after having watched the video, I felt a very strong urge to use some of the truly ingenious Let's play Murder devices on !

Fourth series: it's going to be dark, Mycroft will have something to say which will not be on any of the scripts, everybody else, including Mr Gatiss, proclaimed Moriarty dead, but not Mr Moffat, he pointed out that the fans have missed an element yet again; he would have made a wonderful Spanish Grand Inquisitor, indeed!

And on another sore point, because we are all fans, first and foremost, so we shouldn't bicker, I was absolutely vindicated: Benedict himself hates the curls!!! Mr Gatiss said that his first question when a series is over is "Can I get a haircut, now?" :D

[sittything]

I appreciated Gatiss' joke about the whole show being the imaginings of a Victorian man... lol

[sfmpco]

 

Aha, look what I found! We've referred to this earlier but I don't think it's been posted yet: the TAB post-mortem. Haven't had time to watch it yet but it should be entertaining.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IfDpRzbhJk

 

 

It was! Thanks so much!

 

 

Well, one thing Gatiss cleared up is that Mycroft was definitely drugged at the end of HLV and wasn't faking it.

[Arcadia]

Unless he's lying! :d

[sfmpco]

But he isn't.

 

Anyhow, wanted to comment on the fact that Amanda wore a bee necklace.  I wonder if that was a conscious reference to Sherlock.

[J.P.]

I just wished they wouldn't talk all at once. As it is said, it looks like Sherlock was really high on the plane - something I still try to ignore. <_<

[Arcadia]

Wonder if we can talk Ariane DeVere into transcribing it?

[Slithytove]

And on another sore point, because we are all fans, first and foremost, so we shouldn't bicker, I was absolutely vindicated: Benedict himself hates the curls!!! Mr Gatiss said that his first question when a series is over is "Can I get a haircut, now?" :D

Benedict's aversion to curly hair, because he thinks it makes him look" womanly", has been well documented since the first series but I'd have to agree with the fans who say that, beautiful as he is, he doesn't seem to know what suits him. 

 

This is borne out by the rather unflattering outfits he often seems to wear in his private life, including a penchant for hats which look too small for his head.  (The one he wore at the Chelsea Flower Show, a couple of years ago, looked as if it would fit a child.)  Of course, he has the right to choose his own appearance and he manages to transcend those less-than-brilliant sartorial choices because he is such a good-looking man, but the fact remains that the curls really do suit him, whether he realises it or not!

[Arcadia]

I thought it wasn't the curls he was averse to so much as the length of Sherlock's hair.
 
Oh, how we artists suffer for our art....

[T.o.b.y]

It's all a matter of taste. Nobody is forcing Benedict Cumberbatch to adopt Sherlock's hairstyle in his private life, and if he can't put up with it for a few weeks of filming every other year or so, I say, give him a wig. My powers of disbelief suspension can support a lot more than that.

 

Am I a heartless person because I really don't care whether the actor likes his character's look, or even his personality? I just want him to continue to play him well. I am afraid I care much more for fictional Sherlock than for the real human being who lends him his body and his voice, but then, I feel as if I know Sherlock and have a certain right to be interested in him as a fan, whereas I do not know Benedict Cumberbatch and a little admiration from afar is all that I ever could or should feel for him.

[Arcadia]

Oh, I don't know, I can muster up a little empathy for him. But, er, not that much. Grow the damned hair, Ben! :d

[Boton]

Oh, I don't know, I can muster up a little empathy for him. But, er, not that much. Grow the damned hair, Ben! :D

 

Seriously.  There are ER nurses whose job it is to, in part, get puked on regularly.  There are people in construction whose job it is to, in part, climb out on steel girders several stories up in the winter.  There are fry cooks whose job is is to, in part, get burned by splashing oil on a semi-regular basis.  If your biggest complaint about your job is a big paycheck and a haircut you don't like, then I feel for you, but shut up and grow the damned hair!

 

OK, snark aside, I can see how he may not be able to realize what looks good on him.  No one can really see themselves in 3D, and he's probably like the rest of us in that he likes the way the shorter hair looks from a certain angle that he can see in the mirror.  But for me, his face is so angular from so many viewpoints that the curls give a nice softer counterpoint and, perhaps paradoxically, emphasize the masculinity of the angles.  So, for me, I think he looks more masculine with the Sherlock curls than without.  His mileage my vary, of course.  (But grow the damned hair, Ben!)

[Inge l-w]

Well, he does as he's told and grows his hair to be dyed and teased into all sorts of fantastical shapes! But for me, the best little scene in his career was in Amazing Grace where he raced Ioan Gruffyd (William Wilberforce) to the latter's house, young and with his natural, auburn wavy hair, since we are once again talking about the flipping subject.

And if the bee necklace was a hint, then Goodbye, farewell, Auf Wiedersehen, Adieu, as the Von Trapp children sang in the Sound of Music, to a fifth series, because bees mean Retirementlock, to use Ao3 terminology!

What would be the point of a transcript? They spoke in turns, enunciated their words, didn't' interrupt each other and were, on the whole perfectly intelligible. A very well-orchestrated panel discussion.

[jadpdr]

Why bother with curls, wigs and the rest, when a true gift of the gods can be so many things to so many people?

[jadpdr]

Alternatively, locate Sherlock:

[Arcadia]

OMG, jadpdr, what is that? Ow, it makes me feel old, I hardly recognize any of them....

 

I did, however, spot Sherlock and John; is that Moriarty next to them? Got a few of the others. But most of that crowd in the middle... not a clue. :(

[Arcadia]

What would be the point of a transcript? They spoke in turns, enunciated their words, didn't' interrupt each other and were, on the whole perfectly intelligible. A very well-orchestrated panel discussion.

 

You must have seen a different one than I did ... they talked all over each other! :d

 

[sittything]

Is that supposed to be Rick Grimes and Glenn in there?  I see Thor and Loki...

 

ETA:  Is that Daryl with the crossbow too?!  On the edge of the crowd near what I think is Rick and Glenn?  

[sittything]

I dunno, I was too busy watching Gatiss make stupid faces in the panel.  They could have given away the secrets of the Sherlock kingdom, and I would have been all "Look at that adorable dork!"  lol