The Political Thread

[Fantasy Lover]

 

 

But I've been there and bought the tee shirt, and I certainly won't be fooled again.

what T-shirt?

[besleybean]

The one of any group that appeals through populism.

[Van Buren Supernova]

I like Baskerville Minefield.

[Fantasy Lover]

 

 

The one of any group that appeals through populism.

I don't get it

[Pseudonym]

Bought the t-shirt is an idiom in English, it probably doesn't translate. Just means that someone has been there and experienced that before. 

[Fantasy Lover]

Bought the t-shirt is an idiom in English, it probably doesn't translate. Just means that someone has been there and experienced that before.

Oh, now I get it.

[Van Buren Supernova]

It's good we have this moved.

 

I want to be goofy in Speedy again. :p

 

Had some thoughts today.

Could Trump top Bush as probably one of the worst?

Non existent WMD and lost of a lot, A LOT of lives because of that, NSA etc?

[Fantasy Lover]

I'm afraid so :(

[Arcadia]

Anything is possible. I always thought Bush was a decent enough human being, just not the brightest bulb in the box. So he's already superior to Trump. ;)

 

Here's one a lot of us predicted: before he won, he insisted the election was rigged. Now he's insisting the calls to recount the votes are "a scam." Hypocrite, much?

 

As much as I would love to dump Trump, I really hope a recount of votes wouldn't turn up any criminal activity. Trump's campaign damaged the system so badly already, I don't know if it can take another blow.

[J.P.]

This article shows a POV that I haven't seen yet. It's kind of extreme and I don't agree with all what's said but I think it's interesting.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/the-dark-rigidity-of-fundamentalist-rural-america-a-view-from-the-inside/#.WDjYw5lolE8.facebook

[SherlockedCAMPer]

I second that JP. At 1 point the author pretty much denies the accuracy of the most consistent of ancient manuscripts that has stood the test of time. Although I do agree that many people who call themselves Christians definitely have a misguided idea of what that means in daily living and beliefs about society and related standards.

[Arcadia]

I think the author accurately describes a segment of American society ... but how big a segment, I don't know. I disagree that it's a characteristic restricted to rural, fly-over America though, since I see a lot of the same attitudes here in mixed race, urban/suburban, hi-tech, well-to-do Northern Virginia. And I saw a lot of the same attitudes in suburban, blue-collar Florida, and in rural, mixed income North Carolina. Although it's not popular to say so (at least around here) in my opinion fundamentalist religion is indeed one of the uniting forces behind such thinking. But fundamentalism is hardly limited to Christians. And there are many people who are largely non-religious who also share many of the same beliefs. And many non-Americans who share the same beliefs.
 
But there's a lot of truth in that article, imo, and I can give you names and addresses of Americans who are precisely as the author describes. Not that they would be willing to talk to you about it. They are not self-analytical. The world, to them, is exactly what they learned it was at age six, and that's the end of that. :(

[besleybean]

Wow, to people need evidence that some humans just don't think?!

[Arcadia]

Hey, didn't we just determine that thinking was dangerous? They just want to be safe! :D (Actually, now that I think on it, that's not quite as funny as I meant it to be, as it's often a little too true ..... )

[Pseudonym]

Depressing article :( Don't think I want to say much about it at risk of bringing religion into what is already a potentially heated thread.

[besleybean]

If religion is mentioned...it could well end up with me being banned!

[Pseudonym]

Yup, I've got a   too, which is why I am avoiding it. 

[besleybean]

;)

[J.P.]

Staying away from the religion issue - what I don't agree with is that only the criticized part of the society are guilty for "buying Apple items and foreign cars etc" and complaining about foreign goods flooding the market. It's not THAT easy and all of us are guilty of it to some extent, mostly more than we would like to admit - or even more than we know.

[Pseudonym]

The Apple part made me think of this scene from Mr Robot (warning for language)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNfzbPAD8FE

[Arcadia]

Can't see the video. :(
 
A lot of pundits think a lot of the Trump support came from people who fear/don't like globalization, with all that implies. Personally, it makes me feel safer; I feel like I'm less likely to get nuked by someone whose economy depends on me buying their products. But then, I always have sucked at being competitive.

[Inge l-w]

Put the blame not on Mame, boys ( all right, girls mostly) but on Thatcher and Regan who were led to believe that capitalism can self-regulate, from the Scots abomination Adams to the German-Hebrew Friedman. The next generation may end up learning Mandarin or Cantonese as a second language, instead of English.

[besleybean]

Our school has just appointed a Mandarin teacher.

[Fantasy Lover]

Depressing article :( Don't think I want to say much about it at risk of bringing religion into what is already a potentially heated thread.

Well politics and religion are always a heated topic, good thing I know the list of things that are always heated:

 

1. Politics

2. Religion

3. Abortion

4. What direction a roll of toilet paper has to face

[SherlockedCAMPer]

The original patent for toilet paper has it going over the top to the front instead of underneath to the front apparently so that should end most arguments if true.