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Didn't do him any good to not be a cartoony villian, tho; John still shoots him without a qualm. Y'know what, I'd like to see the problems solved with brain power, whether the bad guys are cartoony villians or saints in disguise. What's the point of having a show about a genius if in the end the only solution is to shoot someone? Any moron could do that, you don't need a Sherlock Holmes.

 

Sorry, ranting again, sorry sorry. But this issue ... aghghgghh. Can we please have an emoticon for banging one's head against the wall? :D

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And neither Sherlock nor John shot Jim -- he was thoughtful enough to do it for them.

 

We do seem to have only one way to get rid of the real baddies, though (I don't think Irene counts).  Isn't that kinda boring?  Especially for co-creators who pride themselves on surprising us?

 

Thinking back to canon (where each of those three originated), only Milverton (alias Magnussen) died from a gunshot (and not fired by either Holmes or Watson, unless you believe Moffat's revisionist interpretation).  Moriarty fell into a waterfall and Jefferson Hope (the cabbie) umm, I'll have to look it up later, but it wasn't a bullet.

 

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Conveniently died from his aneurism before going to trial. :skull:

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Thanks, Arcadia.  So in canon we've got natural causes, accidental fall during a fight, and gunshot by an anonymous victim.  In Sherlock, we've got gunshot by John, gunshot by self, and gunshot by Sherlock.  Maybe they have that out of their systems by now?

 

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Actually, the villians have been the imaginative ones! Death by self-administered poison, death by bomb blast, attempted death by long, thin blade, death by blackmail .... and then we have Mary, who performed surgery by bullet!

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"It really bothers you. What people say - about me. I don't understand; why would it upset you?"

 

"You know, for a genius you can be remarkably thick."

 

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Yup, that one was good. It's kind of mirrored by "he's Sherlock - whom would he bother protecting?"

 

Another one of my favorites is "I don't have friends". I love the way Sherlock says "friends" as if that was an insult.

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Yup, that one was good. It's kind of mirrored by "he's Sherlock - whom would he bother protecting?"

 

Ah, yes; that's a favorite from HLV. And I love the moment when John discovers the perfume on the table next to him, and it dawns on him...

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You know, I never have understood why that perfume was supposed to be there.  Did Mary drop by and just happen to leave her perfume?  Unlikely.  Did Sherlock buy a bottle and leave it by John's chair as a "clue"?  That makes no sense to me either.  Is it just supposed to be "cool"?  Moftiss being clever?  That's about all I can make of it.  Somebody please tell me I've missed something!

 

 

Yup, that one was good. It's kind of mirrored by "he's Sherlock - whom would he bother protecting?"

 

Another one of my favorites is "I don't have friends". I love the way Sherlock says "friends" as if that was an insult.

 

Yes, and compare that to the mocking way Mycroft says it in "Empty Hearse" -- "Oh yes. Friends. Of course, you go in for that sort of thing now."  (I love it when Gatiss delivers lines like that -- though in real life, I'd probably slap him.  Mycroft, that is, not Mark Gatiss!)

 

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You know Sherlock's methods; he's indefatigable! Obviously he just trotted over to John's, broke in, stole the perfume, jogged back to Baker Street, brought John's chair in from wherever he'd put it, put the perfume next to it (yes, as a clue), scampered over to the nearest electronics store, bought a projector, hauled it to Leinster Gardens, broke into someone's flat so he could plug it in and turn it on, took a chair with him on the way out and set it up across the street for when John arrived. Easy!

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Sherlock's response to the above: "It's obvious, isn't it?"

Me: "Not to me, it isn't."

Sherlock: "Because you're an idiot."

 

Your explanation makes perfect sense, actually, considering it's Sherlock we're talking about ;)

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The perfume was Lady Smallwood's though. It's the same as the kind she was using in the car when she tells her driver to turn around and head for Baker Street. So.....does Mary use the same kind of perfume?  Or did John recognize the scent from when Lady Smallwood was in the flat and then again when he was bending over the shot Sherlock?  Because when Mary used it at CAM's.......ooooohhhh....was Mary trying to frame Lady Smallwood for CAM's shooting?  Because Sherlock sure thought it was Lady Smallwood at the time. Ouchy.....she could have shot CAM and just left and Sherlock wouldn't have been none the wiser.

 

 Did John think that Sherlock was protecting Lady Smallwood at the time?  Did he know it was Mary that was going to show up at the "Empty House"? Or did Sherlock prepare him for that big reveal. He seemed pretty calm when she did show up.

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The perfume was Lady Smallwood's though. It's the same as the kind she was using in the car when she tells her driver to turn around and head for Baker Street. So.....does Mary use the same kind of perfume?  Or did John recognize the scent from when Lady Smallwood was in the flat and then again when he was bending over the shot Sherlock?  Because when Mary used it at CAM's.......ooooohhhh....was Mary trying to frame Lady Smallwood for CAM's shooting?  Because Sherlock sure thought it was Lady Smallwood at the time. Ouchy.....she could have shot CAM and just left and Sherlock wouldn't have been none the wiser.

 

 Did John think that Sherlock was protecting Lady Smallwood at the time?  Did he know it was Mary that was going to show up at the "Empty House"? Or did Sherlock prepare him for that big reveal. He seemed pretty calm when she did show up.

 

Well, of course I cannot possibly guess if Mary was trying to frame Lady Smallwood - interesting idea, by the way - but we do know that Mary used Clair de la Lune, because John says so, in Magnussen's office:

"Mary wears it."

And Sherlock replies:

"No, not Mary. Someone else."

So Sherlock recognised the scent, but didn't connect it with Mary, for obvious reasons. Then again, isn't it a bit unusual for Sherlock to jump to conclusions? For once, his heart did rule his head, and to the degree that the thought of Mary breaking and entering didn't even occur to him. Not that it's strange for anyone else! It's just that this is Sherlock, after all. I'm inclined to believe that had John brought up any other name, Sherlock would have considered it, before simply dismissing the possibility. Especially considering the other clues he had more or less subconsciously picked up on from before. But because it was someone rather close to him, the possibility was dismissed before it was fully considered.

 

John might have thought of Lady Smallwood, since, as you noticed, she must have been to Baker Street - though that was probably during the month in which Sherlock and John didn't have contact, and therefore John would not have been in Baker Street. (I had to think about that one for a bit. I seem to forget sometimes that he doesn't live there anymore.)

 

I guess Sherlock must have prepared John that Mary was the would-have-been killer. In fact, I think leaving the perfume out for John to see was deliberate on Sherlock's part as the first step of preparing him - the next step was his phone call, which (to my great dissatisfaction) we did not get to hear.

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I always thought it was just a coincidence that Mary and Lady Smallwood used the same parfume but now when I'm thinking about it... you might have a point. So Mary must have been planning shooting CAM for quite a long time. I should have known that nothing is just a coincidence in this show - what do we say about coincidence?    

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interesting idea, by the way - but we do know that Mary used Clair de la Lune, because John says so, in Magnussen's office:

"Mary wears it."

And Sherlock replies:

"No, not Mary. Someone else."

 

  Oooohh....I didn't remember this exchange at all. So, Mary probably wasn't.....but Sherlock seems to have remembered...at least finding Mary wearing it would have jogged his memory....somewhat....because he knew that John would make the Mary/perfume connection. But if Mary had been able to shoot Magnussen and leave it would have created a bit of a diversion. John would be thinking "Mary"...while Sherlock would be thinking "Lady Smallwood".

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I have taken the liberty of moving this conversation to the thread for His Last Vow, and have posted the last few posts there. I hope that's okay???

 

Oh, sorry, Fox - I didn't get your last post over to the His Last Vow Thread. You were too quick for me :)

 

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Okay, back to quotes, then! :)

 

Here's one of my favorite exchanges, between Mary and Sherlock:

 

Mary: "Oh no! You’re ..."
Sherlock: "Oh yes."
"Oh, my God."
"Not quite."
"You died! You jumped off a roof!"
"No."
"You’re dead!"
"No, I’m quite sure. I checked."

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I love that, too, even though it makes me angry. But of course it would, wouldn't it? The whole situation does. Great writing, though, of the whole reunion scene, and amazing acting as well. Spot on!

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Angry because Sherlock's being so flippant, you mean? I have to admit it makes me roar with laughter at his audaciousness. If I'd been Mary, I think I would've liked him too. And if I'd been John, I would've clocked him then and there, the big insensitive dolt. :D

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The whole scene was both funny and so touching. Sherlock's cockiness...I love how he dances into the waiter's disguise and how John says "Surprise me."  and Sherlock exasperated sigh "I am endeavoring to do so."  but then the tears in his eyes when he realizes how shocked, hurt and angry John really is. It's just perfect.

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Angry because Sherlock's being so flippant, you mean? I have to admit it makes me roar with laughter at his audaciousness. If I'd been Mary, I think I would've liked him too. And if I'd been John, I would've clocked him then and there, the big insensitive dolt. :D

 

Yes, that's what I mean  :smile:  Oh, the scene definitely makes me laugh too, at least until John sees Sherlock, and the mood shifts. It's a great scene, possibly my favorite. Fox describes it well here:

 

The whole scene was both funny and so touching. Sherlock's cockiness...I love how he dances into the waiter's disguise and how John says "Surprise me."  and Sherlock exasperated sigh "I am endeavoring to do so."  but then the tears in his eyes when he realizes how shocked, hurt and angry John really is. It's just perfect.

 

I remember vividly how much this scene made me shiver and quake and laugh and sniff the first time. It's powerful. It still stops my breath for a second when John looks up...

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