Episode 3.1, "The Empty Hearse"

[Carol the Dabbler]

Not the primary source, no, just Holmes being consistent. They got the you-might-have-spilled-the-beans bit directly from "The Empty House." (But Watson didn't punch him.)

[Van Buren Supernova]

Thanks, I was wondering.

 

Imho, Sherlock may be right though.

I don't think it's a flaw for John, I think it's a compliment.

World needs Sherlocks, and Johns.

[Carol the Dabbler]

I agree. John is too honest to be a good liar. (I *like* people who are lousy liars!)

[Van Buren Supernova]

I'm pondering about that.

People. Nope.

Lousy. Nope.

Liars. Nope!

 

Okay. I take lousy liar people then. :p

 

And yes, Martin showed it very well at the end of Scandal.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Also while meeting with Mycroft in Great Game. ("He's investigating away!")

[Arcadia]

That was lame even for John.

 

Okay, back to the - ugh - real world for me, busy day.

[Pseudonym]

Does the part with Derren Brown make any sense to people in other countries?

 

Did I already ask this? Maybe? Possibly? Ah, who knows. 

[Carol the Dabbler]

People who'd never heard of Derren Brown, you mean? I'm not entirely certain that I fit into that category (since I'd seen some setlock photos of that scene being filmed, and somebody mentioned that the other man was DB, so I looked him up). But yeah, I think it would have been clear enough in any case that this guy was some sort of stage hypnotist and/or magician. And Lestrade's reaction is the icing on the cake.

[Pseudonym]

Yea, people who haven't heard of him. Have you ever seen Apocalypse? The show that DB did?

[Arcadia]

Yep, it made perfect sense, although funnier when you find out Derren Brown is a real person.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Have you ever seen Apocalypse? The show that DB did?

I've seen clips from some show of his, where he had Martin Freeman on a couple times. Is that the show you're talking about? But I didn't see any of those clips till after I'd seen the setlock photos at least, and possibly not till after I'd seen TEH.

[Pseudonym]

No, he has loads of different shows, he does ones where he does little tricks with people, which is where he might have a celebrity guest, and then he does these big, epic 'events.' Apocalypse was essentially a real life version of the Walking Dead - apologies for the length of this description, it was pretty involved!

 

Apocalypse was where he took a guy who was a bit of an @rsehole; lazy, spoilt, wasting his life, and slowly over a period of months began to convince him that there was a meteor shower heading for Earth. He'd hacked into his laptop, his phone, even his TV and the radio stations he was listening to, so there was this constant low key story going on in the background about this meteor shower with genuine newsreaders and scientists discussing it. Everyone around him was in on it, so when the bloke mentioned it to anyone they'd talk about it with him but it was all very understated. 

The guy then gets tickets to a concert for one his favourite bands who are playing a small gig out in the countryside. On the bus in the middle of nowhere there is a huge explosion, there are fireballs raining down from the sky, everyone is screaming and freaking out (everyone else on the bus being an actor), and then Derren appears and puts the guy to sleep.

The guy wakes up in a deserted hospital. Whilst wandering around looking for people he comes across a TV in a break room with an emergency broadcast cutting in and out about how the meteors hit, that there was some form of bacteria on them that had infected people, and how everyone was being moved to quarantine zones. He finds a little girl also wandering the hospital, an actor, who being younger than him means he's forced to take the role of protector and leader, to step up. To cut an already very long story short when he goes outside there are infected everywhere, he meets another guy and they have to go on runs for supplies, make life or death decisions, and essentially he 'wakes up' so instead of being a lazy spoilt brat he becomes the leader of the group, the protector, and the show ends with him and the little girl heading out into the countryside to try to make it to one of the quarantine zones, at which point Derren appears and puts him back under. 

When he wakes up again he's back at home in his normal life, and everything is explained to him. He meets the actors who played the people he was stuck with. The idea was that he would now appreciate what he had, stop taking his family for granted and rather than coasting by and wasting his life realise he did have the potential to make something of himself.

It was cruel, but then the guy had volunteered to be on a Derren Brown show, he was just told after an interview that he didn't get it. DB does quite a few things that are borderline cruel, so if you volunteer for one of his shows you know the type of thing you might be getting into. Honestly I've never seen anything like it, it was fascinating - from how easily we believe the things we're told, how someone might genuinely react if something like that happened. If you can track it down anywhere I recommend it. 

 

There are some clips here, but not the whole show sadly. 

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAZ27CqbEinbMA42A42dfku80SWek0kAQ

[Van Buren Supernova]

Wow, that is elaborate!

That means he at least really can put someone into sleep, yes.

I read that he has some sort of Mind Palace method and if I remember correctly, Gatiss got the idea from him, or helped by him or something like that.

 

Regarding TEH, I didn't know DB that time. To me it's fine, because it's Anderson's theory..it's magic trick after all.

But if I hear it from Sherlock, eventhough we are supposed to doubt that is the real explanation, I wouldn't have it. Yes big blue has gazillion holes in it but that is more Sherlocky.

[Pseudonym]

Yep, he's known for being able to knock people out really quickly. He often does it mid-handshake when he meets them so he could take out John that quickly

 

I think the bungee/Molly kiss is my favourite theory, not that I believe it. I just like how suave he is :D I'm surprised they didn't show a theory where he went home and snogged John since he was getting it on with everyone else. ;)

[Arcadia]

I think John would have noticed that Sherlock was Not. Dead. if that had happened....

[Pseudonym]

Anderson probably would have been stupid enough to think John was in on it though, and just stayed behind to sell the idea. :D Besides, zombie snogging is a well respected romantic trope ;)

[Van Buren Supernova]

I think John would have noticed that Sherlock was Not. Dead. if that had happened....

Good point!!

 

 

Besides, zombie snogging is a well respected romantic trope ;)

Whaa...what??? What did I say about zombie's hygiene? Yikes!

[Arcadia]

You think a zombie cares what you think about its hygiene? Xd

[Van Buren Supernova]

 

 

That's why they are not my type. They have bad hygiene, clingy, stubborn, make horrible noises, single-minded, obtrusive to personal space and privacy, can't hold a conversation, boring, boring, boring.

 

 

(I have a feeling that this is off topic..)

[Pseudonym]

The kiss... This is the way I see it ;)

 

Sherlock is in his bedroom in 221B, still covered in blood, quickly packing a suitcase of things that won’t be missed. John arrives and leans in the doorway, watching him sadly.

Sherlock glances over his shoulder. “Was it convincing?”

“Yea,” says John wearily. “You know it was.”

Sherlock nods once, decisively. “Good.”

John takes a deep breath and steps into the room. “Sherlock, are you sure I can’t come with you? I could help, watch your back.”

Sherlock makes an irritated noise, and puts down the shirt he’s folding. “John, we’ve discussed this.”

John swallows hard and looks down, hiding his face.

Sherlock studies him for a moment and then sighs, stepping closer. He catches John’s wrist, his hand large enough to encircle it entirely. John’s pulse is hammering hard beneath his fingertips, and Sherlock can feel the tremor that John is trying to hide.

“John,” he says, softly.

He moves foward, into John’s space. It’s closer than they’ve ever been before, John can feel the heat coming off Sherlock’s body, can smell the blood. He looks up, and sees Sherlock’s eyes fixed on him. He gasps when he notices something in them he’s never seen before. Emotion. Sentiment. Sherlock moves closer, crowding him, and John doesn’t step away. He raises his chin as Sherlock ducks his head and…

 

Cut to the pub, where Lestrade and a bedraggled Anderson are having a pint.

“Anderson!” yelps Lestrade. “Jesus!”

“What?” says Anderson, defensively. “It makes sense, you know how close they were.”

“It’s not… it doesn’t…” Lestrade shakes his head. “Have you seen John? There’s no way he knew. This, Sherlock’s death? It destroyed him.”

 

 

And that is how we add in a Johnlock kiss that would get the JLC folks up in arms. Feel free to add your own version if you see it differently, I'm wondering how many scenes we can get in :D :D :D

[Arcadia]

[Boton]

Pseud, that was amazing.  I don't ship Johnlock at all, and I would pay money in the theaters to see that filmed.   :D

[Pseudonym]

Why thank you :D really if there was going to be a conspiracy theory wouldn't it be more likely to be John and Sherlock than Sherlock and Moriarty?

[Van Buren Supernova]

Sounds like soap.

[Pseudonym]

Ah yes, but you have to remember this is coming from Anderson's melodramatic mind :D