Episode 3.1, "The Empty Hearse"

[Arcadia]

Well, shoot. Carol convinced me she's not saying that at all, but something like "be careful." Now I'm torn all over again.

[Artemis]

I had assumed that "Cath" meant "Cath Lab", or something else nursey.

 

Maybe the one he supplied for the body is knock-off version? Or he has exactly two? Or he got back the one he lent to the body?

Anyway, if Anderson's vision was right, he was shown wearing his coat during his time away. I think he has at least two.

Maybe in that scene you mentioned he was just making sure that he got his coat. Mycroft sent it for laundry and patched up all the holes he got during his time in Serbia. The instructions was specific, anytime Sherlock had to get into forest etc he had to wear other coats or topless. Sherlock was just making sure that Mycroft had it on express service and he got it on time for dinner.

 

I figured he could have just gone out and bought an identical coat for his look-alike body if he needed it, like he got an identical phone to try to fool Irene in ASiB.

 

I would have thought the coat he supplied for the look-alike body probably stayed with the body, and who knows what happened to it after that.  Maybe it was burned with the body, maybe it was donated (do they do that with clothes from a dead body?), or thrown... who can say?  So that still only leaves one coat, the one Sherlock was wearing at the time.  Unless he had someone procure the second coat from the body for him.  But even in that case it's still only two coats, and I'd hardly call that "lots of coats".

 

If he has lots of those coats, he probably wouldn't have needed Mycroft to launder or repair one, he could just grab another, lol.  And where were they all during his time away?  Did Mycroft go to Baker Street, steal them away, and store them in some closet while he was gone?  And why did he ask "Where is it?" instead of "Where are they?"  If I had 20 identical coats and someone moved them while I was away on a trip, I wouldn't say, "Where is it," I'd say "Where are my coats?"  "Where is it" sounds a lot more specific, like there's only one coat, the coat, his favorite coat, and he wants it now please.

 

It just seemed like an odd thing for him to say all the sudden, that he has lots of those coats.  It'd be like Superman having a closet full of identical capes.  Which might be very practical, but seems oddly out of character somehow, lol.

 

 

[Pseudonym]

Nah, they just got a duplicate that they could get blood on for when he was lying on the pavement/for the body. That one gets disposed of/goes with the body whilst his old faithful is the one he gets back from Mycroft. I'm guessing he left it wherever he was staying (hostel/hotel or something) when he went out and accidentally got himself captured. He knew Mycroft would have got his stuff from the room when he saved Sherlock and so assumed he'd have the coat. 

[Artemis]

Nah, they just got a duplicate that they could get blood on for when he was lying on the pavement/for the body. That one gets disposed of/goes with the body whilst his old faithful is the one he gets back from Mycroft. I'm guessing he left it wherever he was staying (hostel/hotel or something) when he went out and accidentally got himself captured. He knew Mycroft would have got his stuff from the room when he saved Sherlock and so assumed he'd have the coat. 

 

That's how I'd pictured it too, but then my question still remains... why'd he tell Anderson he has lots of coats?  (The context under which he says it implies lots of the same coat too, not different coats.)  :/

 

SHERLOCK: You assumed she reacted like that because I was her kidnapper. But I deduced Moriarty must have found someone who looked very like me to plant suspicion, and that that man – whoever he was – had to be got out of the way as soon as his usefulness ended. That meant there was a corpse in a morgue somewhere that looked just like me.

ANDERSON: Clever.

SHERLOCK: Molly found the body, faked the records, and I provided the other coat. I’ve got lots of coats.

 

[Pseudonym]

Hm, dunno, didn't remember that line. Sarcasm? 

[Artemis]

I suppose that's possible...  :/  He didn't seem very sarcastic when he said it, but maybe he was and it went over my head.

 

 

[Pseudonym]

Maybe it's just because he was talking to Anderson so was just making stuff up as he went along. 

[Artemis]

We don't know if what he told Anderson is a lie though, right?

[Pseudonym]

Not the whole thing, I'm in two minds about that, I just mean he's likely pretty glib with the details since it's Anderson. 

 

What they should have done is have Sherlock tell Anderson something utterly ridiculous, then have him tell Greg something a smidge more believable, and then have him tell John something that might be true. But I suppose they covered most of the possibilities already. 

[Artemis]

What they should have done is have Sherlock tell Anderson something utterly ridiculous, then have him tell Greg something a smidge more believable, and then have him tell John something that might be true. But I suppose they covered most of the possibilities already. 

 

I like that idea. 

 

 

[Carol the Dabbler]

Or maybe what we see is all in Anderson's imagination. That scene is not tied into the timeline at all, so it's hard to know how to interpret it.

[Pseudonym]

It was all a dream... after that Sherlock comes back, sees how distraught Anderson is, comforts him and... ;)

 

Come to think of it, I've never seen any Sherlock/Anderson fics. Not saying I'd particularly want to, just can't say I've stumbled across any. Though I vaguely remember one where everyone thought Sherlock had only ever slept with them - and I mean everyone. John thought he'd only ever slept with John (once), Greg thought he'd only ever slept with Greg (once), etc etc. He'd slept with almost every cast member but somehow none of them ever mentioned it to anyone. Kind of funny. Can't remember if Anderson was in that, I suspect he was. 

[Artemis]

[Pseudonym]

I'm always a bit befuddled by Sherlock's financial status. A guy who owns (multiple?) coats over a 1000 quid, wears designer suits, takes cabs everywhere and doesn't seem to care all that much about getting paid for his work all points towards him being extremely well off. Why do I have the impression he actually isn't though? Is it a fic thing again, or does he ever actually say anything to imply he isn't?

 

Maybe I'm just reading too much into the fact he has a flatmate. It could easily be, as we discussed before, that Mike took the flatmate comment a little more seriously than intended but when he produced John Sherlock was intrigued enough to go along with it. Comments like 'together we should be able to afford it' could easily be Sherlock being surprisingly delicate with the knowledge that otherwise John couldn't afford it, rather than referring to himself. The fact that when John views the flat Sherlock has already moved in again points to the idea that he can afford it regardless. 

 

Anyone have any thoughts?

[Carol the Dabbler]

I agree with pretty much everything you said.  He must be fairly well off -- family trust fund maybe, or income from family real estate.  (I suppose the same might be said for the original Holmes, since so many of his clients are impoverished maiden ladies and such.)  Maybe he wants a flatmate so that paying the rent doesn't cut into his clothing budget?

[Arcadia]

Maybe the clothes are from a grateful client.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Maybe. What are you thinking, the client owns an exclusive men's clothing shop?

[Pseudonym]

A client who wanted to dress him in slightly too tight clothes?

 

Client: 'I got you this shirt, Sherlock, to say thank you.'

Sherlock: Oh. *tries on* It's a little tight.

Client: *panting and drooling* Oh, no, it's perfect.

[Arcadia]

Precisely. ;)

[Artemis]

From Tumblr (I just thought it was funny).

 

In TEH Sherlock says “I’ve got lots of coats” so I’d like to invite you all to join me as we imagine the first time Sherlock ruins his coat on a case and John is talking about how he knows how to sew so he can mend it for him and he stops in the middle of his sentence as Sherlock walks to the coat cupboard and pulls out a completely identical coat from the entire rail of identical Belstaff’s and throws the old one away like it’s nothing

[Pseudonym]

Ha! And of course every one has his signature coloured button hole.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

I'm always a bit befuddled by Sherlock's financial status. A guy who owns (multiple?) coats over a 1000 quid, wears designer suits, takes cabs everywhere and doesn't seem to care all that much about getting paid for his work all points towards him being extremely well off. Why do I have the impression he actually isn't though? Is it a fic thing again, or does he ever actually say anything to imply he isn't?

 

Maybe I'm just reading too much into the fact he has a flatmate. It could easily be, as we discussed before, that Mike took the flatmate comment a little more seriously than intended but when he produced John Sherlock was intrigued enough to go along with it. Comments like 'together we should be able to afford it' could easily be Sherlock being surprisingly delicate with the knowledge that otherwise John couldn't afford it, rather than referring to himself. The fact that when John views the flat Sherlock has already moved in again points to the idea that he can afford it regardless.

 

Anyone have any thoughts?

I agree with pretty much everything you said. He must be fairly well off -- family trust fund maybe, or income from family real estate. (I suppose the same might be said for the original Holmes, since so many of his clients are impoverished maiden ladies and such.) Maybe he wants a flatmate so that paying the rent doesn't cut into his clothing budget?

I'd say the Holmes family probably came from money if they lived in Musgrave Hall until Eurus decided she wanted a very large bonfire/barbecue.

[Van Buren Supernova]

I agree with pretty much everything you said.  He must be fairly well off -- family trust fund maybe, or income from family real estate.  (I suppose the same might be said for the original Holmes, since so many of his clients are impoverished maiden ladies and such.)  Maybe he wants a flatmate so that paying the rent doesn't cut into his clothing budget?

That. And for experiment. Wait. To buy groceries. Wait. As audience. Mrs. Hudson takes his skull away regularly.

 

Maybe. What are you thinking, the client owns an exclusive men's clothing shop?

Or it's one wealthy client who provides Sherlock with lifetime Belstaff subscription box.

[J.P.]

 

Hudson takes his skull away regularly.

Any ideas what for? :P

[Carol the Dabbler]

To dust it?  Give it a thorough washing?